Does school really matter?

[Yatta]

from what i remember, top 240, cut up into different slices or regions of the country...

that would depend on the fine print in the contract they supposedly agreed to, when they signed up.

and i am not sure, if exclusively government service is the required requirement.

AFAIK its not in the contract that they work for the government. Whats in the contract though is that they pursue a STEM college course/career. Though some never do. I remember there was a bit of hubbub a few years ago when DOST, DepEd and PSHS threatened to collect on those who never honored the contract to pursue a STEM course. I also think they are not allowed to leave the country without a clearance from DOST, DFA and BI like other DOST scholars.

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[Egan101]

AFAIK its not in the contract that they work for the government. Whats in the contract though is that they pursue a STEM college course/career. Though some never do. I remember there was a bit of hubbub a few years ago when DOST, DepEd and PSHS threatened to collect on those who never honored the contract to pursue a STEM course. I also think they are not allowed to leave the country without a clearance from DOST, DFA and BI like other DOST scholars.

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Yep, no mandatory government service but you have to pursue a degree in the sciences or engineering. However, they have no follow-up efforts to check if the student did finish the initial course they applied in college. A lot of Pisay grads enroll in science courses but opted to shift to non-science courses they are inclined to.

Yes, there was a fiasco of sorts before that has Pisay sent names of graduates to immigration but PSHS had to retract that move. PSHS policies are not similar to the policies enforced by the DOST scholarship for college students. DOST college scholars are mandated to stay an equal amount of years in the country for each year they spent in college. DOST college scholars are not required to do render mandatory government service.

[Jun aka Pekto]

yes,
some students get high grades because they laboriously rake thru the books.
while the great majority of us... we get very little sleep, pouring into our reading material, only to barely pass...
a few, the gifted ones, we do not see them studying at all, and they get the highest grades...
the exceptions are there, but they're clearly the very minority.

and when these institutions are talked about, positively or negatively, the public seems to think that the single-digit minority represents the majority of the population.

I saw students like them. All they did were hang out or play billiards while I spent every day doing a 100-page paper (among other reports) on sump pumps with margins and text painstakingly done by hand, using technical pens and complete with numerous illustrations like the ones below. I barely finished in time and I was completely frazzled while those students handed in theirs like it was yesterday's homework. They made it look so easy while I struggled. I wondered how they did it. I learned later on there were scammers who made all sorts of reports that students bought for a price.

[dr. d]

The Diliman Campus is the biggest and has 240 slots open each year but they are not mandated to fill up those 240. The satellite campuses each take in 90 students each year but mostly they take in two thirds of that number.

Graduates are mandated to take pure science or applied science courses in college. No required government service is expected from the graduates. Only the military academies have the mandatory government service requirement after graduation.

is medicine an acceptable course to pursue?

[dr. d]

I saw students like them. All they did were hang out or play billiards while I spent every day doing a 100-page paper (among other reports) on sump pumps with margins and text painstakingly done by hand, using technical pens and complete with numerous illustrations like the ones below. I barely finished in time and I was completely frazzled while those students handed in theirs like it was yesterday's homework. They made it look so easy while I struggled. I wondered how they did it. I learned later on there were scammers who made all sorts of reports that students bought for a price.

i had similar experience. literature class.
they would hand in, good write-ups. better than mine, at least.
what i didn't know, is that "cliff's notes" was available in some stores.

[Egan101]

is medicine an acceptable course to pursue?

Biology, Chemistry, and Molecular Biology are all pure science courses. These are the usual pre-med courses. Yes, it is acceptable. It used to be not recommended but a lot still pursued medicine. It is common for some of the Pisay grads to get into the UP INTARMED program.

I have a bunch of classmates who are medical doctors. Jut's wife, another alumna, is also a doctor.

[Yatta]

is medicine an acceptable course to pursue?

yes since it and the pre-Med bachelor course is still science-based.

[CVT]

Biology, Chemistry, and Molecular Biology are all pure science courses. These are the usual pre-med courses. Yes, it is acceptable. It used to be not recommended but a lot still pursued medicine. It is common for some of the Pisay grads to get into the UP INTARMED program.

I have a bunch of classmates who are medical doctors. Jut's wife, another alumna, is also a doctor.

Some of the graduates of Manila Science HS [STEM] are now taking Economics and Accounting courses...

[Egan101]

Some of the graduates of Manila Science HS [STEM] are now taking Economics and Accounting courses...

The PSHS system is different from the other science high schools as they are under DOST and not under DepEd. I don't know if the policies of PSHS are similar to the other local science high schools.

However, they cannot control those graduates who opted to shift courses a year after enrolling in a science course. Some Pisay grads find themselves in BA, Economics, Philosophy, or any other course which appeal more to them.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Dont get me wrong PSHS grads pero pagdating ba sa college eh bored/sawa na kayo mag-aral?

Nung college ako (90s), some PSHS grads in our campus petiks lang. Hindi siguro dahil alam na alam na nila ang lessons kasi extended sila beyond 4 or 5 years bago maka graduate.

Nung nag entrance exam ako jan (2nd exam after the qualifying sa probinsya), as in first time ko nabasa yung mga science words dun sa exam papers hahahaha. Naisip ko nga kung itinuturo ba talag sa elemnetary yung mga yun hahaha. I was waitlisted then informed of admission by late July. Syempre may mga tropa na ko sa high school kaya stay put sa probinsya.

Ngayon damatands na ko, I had a chance to visit PSHS sa Davao City as part of an assessment proect team. TBH, ang babait ng mga students dun. They greeted us pag nakasalubong mo sa corridors. Compared sa Main Campus, parang anino lang daw yung project team nung bumisita sila dun hehehe