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    #181
    Quote Originally Posted by crave View Post
    Depende rin siguro sa industry na papasukan mo. In our industry (Pharma-manufacturing; not the botika or hospital industry), walang pakialam ang employer kung graduate ka ng UP Manila, UST, Adamson, EAC or saang university pa yan sa probinsiya. Sa mata nila, as long as nakapasa ka sa board exam may panlaban ka na. Pare pareho lang naman kayo marunong humawak at magtimpla ng chemicals.

    I used to be a management trainee ng one of the largest toll manufacturer dito sa Pinas. mas prefer ng HR yung applicant (fresh grad or experienced) na galing sa probinsiya or yung applicant na galing sa mahirap na pamilya kesa dun sa applicant na de-kotse at graduate sa maynila. Mas nakakatagal at nakakatiis daw kasi sa pressure at strss yung mga applicant na galing sa hirap. Sa 12 na MT, 3 lang yata kaming graduate sa Manila.

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    Oo nga sir depende rin sa HR manager ang applicant. Sa pinag oojt ko kasi medyo maypagka biased parin si HR, gusto niya maayos itsura like ayaw niya sa maitim, eh for me parang unfair naman yun. Kaya pag inuutusan niya ako mag review ng resume pantay pantay talaga treatment ko sakanila. Yung iba nakaka inis din may pagka narrow minded. Sana ang mga HR talaga fair at hindi selfish mag bigay chance sa iba.


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    #182
    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Pressure lang sa Mapua. Angbilis ng mga quarter. Kapag nagpabaya ka sayang ang 30k++ na tuition mo for that quarter. Teka ano ba gusto mo na course? Bakit di ka nalang mag UST?
    Kumbaga sir chance ko na talaga to di ko na sasayangin. Ayun nga po pupunta kasi ako sa London sure na po alis ko nun , kaso hindi natuloy dahil sa tatay ko, gumawa ng paraan para hindi ako matuloy. Pina stop ako sa school dahil sa pag ayos ng visa at sure na talaga alis ko nun. basta sir sensya na mahaba talaga po kasi pag kinwento. Di ko nga alam sir parang minalas talaga ko sa nangyari, at pati mga pangarap ko nadamay. Pero hindi pa naman huli lahat, sa mga nangyari sakin eto nag push/turo sakin na mag sikap sa buhay


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    #183
    Quote Originally Posted by crave View Post
    I used to be a management trainee ng one of the largest toll manufacturer dito sa Pinas. mas prefer ng HR yung applicant (fresh grad or experienced) na galing sa probinsiya or yung applicant na galing sa mahirap na pamilya kesa dun sa applicant na de-kotse at graduate sa maynila. Mas nakakatagal at nakakatiis daw kasi sa pressure at strss yung mga applicant na galing sa hirap. Sa 12 na MT, 3 lang yata kaming graduate sa Manila.

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    Ang thinking ng kumpanya ay dapat hindi aalis yang natraining nila kaya preferred nila ang galing sa mahirap na pamilya. Kasi hindi magreresign hangga't hindi napapatapos ang mga kapatid. Though may matyaga talagang mga tao.
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    #184
    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    Ang thinking ng kumpanya ay dapat hindi aalis yang natraining nila kaya preferred nila ang galing sa mahirap na pamilya. Kasi hindi magreresign hangga't hindi napapatapos ang mga kapatid. Though may matyaga talagang mga tao.
    Yes that's their thinking sa mga galing sa hirap lalo na yung mga galing visayas and mindanao. Since wala silang kilala or kamag-anak dito sa luzon, alam nilang hindi basta basta bibigay yung tao.

    We have this female MT from Surigao na kahit maiyak iyak na siya sa hirap at pagod, hindi siya makapag-resign since dahil sa kanya, napa-semento nila yung bahay nila sa probinsiya. Well, starting salary ranges from 30k to 40k depending on your credential (latin honor and/or board placer) pero yung itsura mo naman madadagdagan ng 10 taon sa edad mo sa stress.

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    #185
    Quote Originally Posted by crave View Post

    Well, starting salary ranges from 30k to 40k depending on your credential (latin honor and/or board placer) pero yung itsura mo naman madadagdagan ng 10 taon sa edad mo sa stress.

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    Graduate ka ng about 20 or 21 yo. Pero you will look like more than 30 yo agad sa job mo.

    Nak ng pating....madadali ka palang maging senior citizen......





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    #186
    Napansin ko mga mukhang matatanda sa edad nila eh mga programmer.

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    #187
    Ok to get you some inspiring story.. here is what real man did and currently earning 1M pesos a month as a salary.

    Grade school public school.. during lunch break nag titinda ng kung ano ano sa school ie candy, yema bubble gum para may pang baon lang at pang gastos

    High School during weekend nag titinda ng yosi sa sabungan weekdays after class nag titinda sa palengke ng balot

    After HS during summer nag work sa garments factory as a janitor after 2 months na layoff since cost cutting.

    Then nag apply as a Student Assistant sa LETRAN College para maka pag engineering. naka isang Sem lang at second Sem pa then nag summer class ng math na ibinagsak..

    Nag abroad as a Helper sa Middle East sa isang contracting company na nag su supply ng manpower sa Oil and Gas Industry. While working nag aral nag distance learning sa ICS International Correspondence School ( yung office sa may greenhills) hindi pa uso ang internet noon normal post office mail lang. at manual writting ang exam wala pang computer..While working for 3 years in middle east from Helper to Pipe fitter hindi pa din natapos ang course sa ICS sa sobrang hirap ng lecture all alone wala talaga makuhang reference during that time so nag give up nalang. After 3 years natapos ang contract at uwi ng pinas tambay for 9months.. habang nag aaply ulit papunta middle east.. Naka swerte naka pag apply this time higher position with good salary nagamit yung na tutunan sa ICS natangap bilang Operator sa Oil and Gas... and then nag tuloy tuloy na ang promotion until maging manager.. At ngayon isa ng Consultant for Operations Engineering....

    Now I can see that even unformal education can landed you in a Good Paying Job... But I dont recommend it ang swerte ni Juan hindi minsan nadating kay Pedro.. and to this date most of the country required attested degree (school credentials) so sa panahon ngayon pag wala kang diploma hindi ka din tatangapin..Hindi tulad noon basta magaling ka lang sa work ok na ngayon pano mo i proved na magaling ka kung wala kang diploma para maka pasok kas a Company..

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    #188
    Quote Originally Posted by chookchakchenes View Post
    Napansin ko mga mukhang matatanda sa edad nila eh mga programmer.
    Mga di tumtanda naman yung mga nasa BPO.......

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    #189
    Ok to get you some inspiring story.. here is what real man did and currently earning 1M pesos a month as a salary.

    Grade school public school.. during lunch break nag titinda ng kung ano ano sa school ie candy, yema bubble gum para may pang baon lang at pang gastos

    High School during weekend nag titinda ng yosi sa sabungan weekdays after class nag titinda sa palengke ng balot

    After HS during summer nag work sa garments factory as a janitor after 2 months na layoff since cost cutting.

    Then nag apply as a Student Assistant sa LETRAN College para maka pag engineering. naka isang Sem lang at second Sem pa then nag summer class ng math na ibinagsak..

    Nag abroad as a Helper sa Middle East sa isang contracting company na nag su supply ng manpower sa Oil and Gas Industry. While working nag aral nag distance learning sa ICS International Correspondence School ( yung office sa may greenhills) hindi pa uso ang internet noon normal post office mail lang. at manual writting ang exam wala pang computer..While working for 3 years in middle east from Helper to Pipe fitter hindi pa din natapos ang course sa ICS sa sobrang hirap ng lecture all alone wala talaga makuhang reference during that time so nag give up nalang. After 3 years natapos ang contract at uwi ng pinas tambay for 9months.. habang nag aaply ulit papunta middle east.. Naka swerte naka pag apply this time higher position with good salary nagamit yung na tutunan sa ICS natangap bilang Operator sa Oil and Gas... and then nag tuloy tuloy na ang promotion until maging manager.. At ngayon isa ng Consultant for Operations Engineering....

    Now I can see that even unformal education can landed you in a Good Paying Job... But I dont recommend it ang swerte ni Juan hindi minsan nadating kay Pedro.. and to this date most of the country required attested degree (school credentials) so sa panahon ngayon pag wala kang diploma hindi ka din tatangapin..Hindi tulad noon basta magaling ka lang sa work ok na ngayon pano mo i proved na magaling ka kung wala kang diploma para maka pasok kas a Company..

    based doon sa story his success has more to do with his experience than his ICS course

    he learned everything there is to learn about getting oil out of the ground kaya siya naging consultant

    though the ICS course may have been a factor, alisin mo yung on-the-job experience niya wala magagawa ang ICS education niya
    Last edited by uls; June 4th, 2014 at 05:18 PM.

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    #190
    ^practice trumps theory
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #191
    ^^Noon ok pa yan. Pero ngayon na ang daming graduate at lisensyado na walang trabaho? Lots of luck to you.

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    #192
    sa Banawe meron mga tauhan ng surplusan ngayon may sariling tindahan na

    ang success wala sa edukasyon

    nasa attitude

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    may kilala ako sa Kalookan tauhan ng isang tindahan ng heavy equipment parts ngayon may sariling tindahan

    ginawa niya bumili siya ng mga junk na heavy equipment at scrap value. kinatay and sold the parts

    ngayon di lang isa ang pwesto niya sa Kalookan

    pag tinatawagan ko sa landline lagi sagot ng secretary "nasa kabila" or "nasa bodega"

    nag iimport na yata ngayon ng brand new China heavy equipment
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    #193
    ever wonder why meron mga tao nasa dugo nila maging negosyante while other people are content to be employees?

    ano difference nila?

    education? definitely not

    it's attitude

    it's lakas ng loob

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    #194
    ^Add to that the risk takers. Madami kasi takot and just wanted to stay in their comfort zones. Most of the time, those that took the risks are those who are more successful in every aspect.

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    #195
    Kaya nga siya risk kasi a few succeed while many fail. I read somewhere that 90% of businesses fail. We only focus on the 10%.

    Not everyone is meant for entrepreneurship.

    Totoo na hindi ka yayaman sa pagiging empleyado, but some people would rather earn a modest living than risk a failed business where he would have to sacrifice his children's tuition fee for capital.


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    #196
    May kilala ako, nagquit ng corporate job niya to try to start a business. Nakailang try na siya, hanggang ngayon wala pa ring naabot. Nagtry maginternet cafe, gov't projects, hardware distribution, pati pagtinda ng mangga sa simbahan - lahat bagsak.


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    #197
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ever wonder why meron mga tao nasa dugo nila maging negosyante while other people are content to be employees?

    ano difference nila?

    education? definitely not

    it's attitude

    it's lakas ng loob
    I agree completely. You have to have balls of steel to be an entrepreneur. Even i tried that two or three times. Didnt pan out. Im an employee now. Am i better off? Hell yeah.




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    #198
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ever wonder why meron mga tao nasa dugo nila maging negosyante while other people are content to be employees?

    ano difference nila?

    education? definitely not

    it's attitude

    it's lakas ng loob
    Nakalimutan mo ang pinak-importante: Mahaba ang pisi. You can have balls the size of the sun, pero kung kakarampot to zero naman ang puhunan mo?

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    #199
    sa mga nagsasabi o naniniwalang di importante kung saan ka nakapagtapos, san nyo ba pinag-aaral ang mga anak nyo o balak pag-aralin ang magiging anak nyo? meron ba ditong mga magulang na di hinangad makapag-aral ang kanilang mga anak sa magandang unibersidad?

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    #200
    In the PHL it matters. Overseas not so much I guess. Yung iba nga abroad di kilala UP eh.


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