Does school really matter?

**jick.cejoco** · June 2nd, 2014 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

But a fresh PMA graduate is a tiniente already vs a praybayt from a non-PMA academe.

It does matter even in the military.

academy people are different. first, qualify to enter the academy, pass the entrance test, pass the rigors of plebehood, yearling, cow and a firstie. in other words, he or she will have been a soldier or a military member for at least four years. imagine to be a cadet of the long gray line you have to compete for a single slot of say an opening of 300, thousands compete to be in the first 300, enlisted however, after boot camp, they become privates but never sergeants

**jut703** · June 2nd, 2014 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by jick.cejoco

some of these kids who graduated from the "top" schools have their noses up in the air. filipinos always love name dropping. of course you do not start from the top when you first get hired unless you came from another company from a moderate to high position. but if the applicant is a fresh graduate, it does not matter from which school, he will not start as a ceo unless he has learned the ropes. similar to the military, you do not start as a major when you graduate from the academy. you've got to earn the battle scars to earn the medals and the brass.

It's not about starting as a CEO, but having a higher starting position compared to others.

Eto general (so may exceptions) observation ko from our batch:

Honor grads from good school - 40k and up

Good school grads - 25k and up

Regular school grads - 15k and up

From there siyempre yung mga tunay na magaling, kahit sa baba nagsimula, makakahabol. Yung mga on-paper lang magaling, mahahabol din ng iba. Pero yung mga magaling tapos mataas nagsimula, namamaximize yung opportunity given to them.

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**jut703** · June 2nd, 2014 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by uls

but in the real world kids with well-connected parents really do get high paying jobs

To be fair, marami sa friends ko na masipag at magaling talaga, hindi gumamit ng magulang para makapasok kahit ubod ng yaman magulang nila.

Ang napansin ko, yung mga patapon pa yung may nerve na gumamit ng magulang para makapasok sa maayos na kumpanya. Nakakakulo ng dugo. But then again life is unfair.

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**jick.cejoco** · June 2nd, 2014 05:00 PM

Ang napansin ko, yung mga patapon pa yung may nerve na gumamit ng magulang para makapasok sa maayos na kumpanya. Nakakakulo ng dugo. But then again life is unfair.

you see, life is unfair. the chances of getting hired are subjective, depending upon the applicant or the prospective employer,
depending if the applicant looks gorgeous in a micro skirt to a nyakis employer, depending if the applicant is owed a favor, too many mitigating factors. sometimes your diploma goes out the door. nobody wins all the time.

**cardict** · June 2nd, 2014 05:01 PM

The moment we're born,we started to learn,time for schooling teaches us about everything we'll never learn from experiences,so school really matters,besides life is a continuing experience and learning

**crazy_boy** · June 2nd, 2014 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by uls

but in the real world kids with well-connected parents really do get high paying jobs

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Apprentice agad ni Sr. Manager or ni VP.

Supervisor agad sa sariling company or sa company nang kaibigan ni Papang.

may kaibigan akong ganito. well connected parents niya. nakapag hanap ng trabaho sa isang Philippine company na may office and factory sa China. Executive Assistant agad ni CEO. i know magaling siya, but hindi ako bilib sa kanya

**jut703** · June 2nd, 2014 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by jick.cejoco

you see, life is unfair. the chances of getting hired are subjective, depending upon the applicant or the prospective employer,
depending if the applicant looks gorgeous in a micro skirt to a nyakis employer, depending if the applicant is owed a favor, too many mitigating factors. sometimes your diploma goes out the door. nobody wins all the time.

But just because there are a few who get to places unfairly, doesn't mean that you won't try to cover all bases by graduating from a good school with honors, while developing a good work ethic, and developing people and leadership skills by being active in orgs.

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**CVT** · June 2nd, 2014 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by chua_riwap

Totoo yan.

May neighbor kami na graduate sa isang never heard na school sa mindanao, w/ honors. 2 pa kurso tinapos.

Unfortunately wala gusto kumuha sa kanya. Bagsak nya sa landmark, saleslady.

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Bro.,- Saleslady pa rin ba siya? Ilan taon na siya?

Kawawa naman iyan....Kung mako-contact mo,- baka gusto niya ng trabaho,- as Customer Service Representative/Planner... Puwede siyang mag-apply,- she has to start somewhere in the corporate world,- kaysa masayang naman ang pinag-aralan niya (may honors pa siya) diyan sa pagiging Saleslady.... I am certain that this job will open up opportunities for her here or abroad.....

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**jick.cejoco** · June 2nd, 2014 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

But just because there are a few who get to places unfairly, doesn't mean that you won't try to cover all bases by graduating from a good school with honors, while developing a good work ethic, and developing people and leadership skills by being active in orgs.

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it is a free country. you can try, keyword: try the best you can. but face it, you are talking about the philippines. but there are no guarantees just because you graduated from a exceptional school. there are more odds you have to overcome unless you are either exceptional or you are connected or the prospective employer owes your family a really big favor, or you have the advantage

**jut703** · June 2nd, 2014 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by jick.cejoco

it is a free country. you can try, keyword: try the best you can. but face it, you are talking about the philippines. but there are no guarantees just because you graduated from a exceptional school. there are more odds you have to overcome unless you are either exceptional or you are connected or the prospective employer owes your family a really big favor, or you have the advantage

You only work with what you can change. No use crying over the fact that your parents aren't well connected. But you can work on becoming an exceptional student so you can enter a good school, and then work even harder to get honors, join competitions, hold org leadership positions.

At least kahit papano, napataas mo yung chances mo of a better corporate career, and you also maximized all the opportunities available to you. No guarantees parin, but you did your best and that's really all that matters.

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