Does school really matter?

[uls]

[badkuk]

napanood ko si che che lazaro may ininterview siyang mga homeless.
yung isang homeless na ininterview niya gradweyt ng never heard na eskwela dito sa manila. galing siya sa province, ang hirap raw ng buhay nila roon. binenta ng ama niyang magbubukid yung kalabaw, lupa. etc. makatapos lang siya ng siya naman makapagtaguyod sa pamilya niya.
magaling at masipag mag-aral, nakatapos. suma cumlaude ata?
naghanap ng naghanap ng trabaho. walang kumukuha sa kaniya. hanggang sa nag bagger boy sa uniwide. nagtrabaho sa mga grocery, malls sa manila.
hanggang sa nakita na lang niya sarili niyang lumalaboy.
nawalan na ng pagasa.

Getting slightly off topic: This story sounds iffy for me, like we're not getting the whole story. Baka naman medyo unusual yung kurso niya(.e.g not accounting, business admin, engg, etc.)? Baka me problema sa personality? i know this guy back in college who graduated with an engineering(?) course, pero consider this: he infected a whole computer lab with a virus to get revenge for getting his diskette infected; he knocked on our university's IT Center, asking where he can learn how to make a virus

Would you hire him? :D


i know a lot of people who only know basic arithmetic who are getting by, or at least are not being palaboy. If he's given up, then that's his choice; then his parent's sacrifice truly was in vain.


Getting slightly back to topic: me kwento dati yung isang professor sa amin on how he became known as a terror: a group of students from an "IT" school took up the Master's course at my university; they were all cocky and smart-assed, saying that "alam na namin yan" when the professor started discussing. The problem now is that, aside from being really smart, me pagka gago din yung professor. So they made the exams excruciatingly hard, and by the end of the term only a handful were left to finish the course. Their summa cum laude only got a passing score.


My point? It's not just the diploma, it's also matters where that diploma came from. It's good to be summa cum laude, but each and every college and university also has its summa cum laudes. And not all summa cum laudes are equal.

[_Qwerty_]

suma cumlaude pero homeless and palaboy? malamang malaki problema nyan..

i know people na high school graduate lang pero kahit papaano nakapasok sa mga call centers.. and they're earning in the 20Ts maybe more now..

so wala din yan sa school or kung nakatapos o hindi.. yeah i agree pag nakatapos sa magandang school.. medyo madali magka work.. pero kahit hindi ka don sa top 3 schools nangggaling.. or kahit hindi ka pa nakatapos nang college.. kung masipag ka lang at maabilidad.. makaka kuha ka din nang work at aasenso ka din..

[viper888]

It would be ridiculous to deny that companies dont discriminate an applicant education. There are many firms that only employ new grads only from certain schools. In architecture, numerous firms are UST only wherein any UST graduate will be prioritized against a Cum Laude from Mapua or Feu. In large organizations, such as DMCI or etc. would give a UST, UP, or DLSU engineer a higher salary right out of college (a graduate from those 3 colleges would easily get 20, whereas others would get 12-15k).

The main advantage of graduating from a prestigious university is getting a first job. It will be much easier to get a job and they will undoubtedly pay you a little more. At a young age (25-30), your main accomplishment will still be the university you graduated from. However one day it will no longer matter, for your accomplishments will no longer be you education.

Nobody will care where a successful 60 year old professional graduated from, however he will care where his potential interns graduated from.

[chua_riwap]

Marami bro, yung mga Mangement Trainee program. Ang mga naapplyan namin na ganyan:

Shell Graduate Program (~50k)
Nestle Corporate Management Trainee Program (~45k)
Unilever Future Leaders Program (~60k)
P&G (wala silang MT program pero starting nila 52k for PH-based and much higher pag SG)
HSBC (forgot the name of their program but starting is ~65k)
Kraft Graduate Trainee Program (~48k)
GSK (~42k)
L'Oreal MT program (~40k)

Plus yung benefits pa depending on the exact role given to you (car, fuel and housing allowance, etc etc).

Most of them promise na nasa 80-100k ka na in 3 years if you graduate from the program. Pero yung iba diyan sobrang madugo, parang hunger games matatanggal ka talaga.

So hindi rin enough na maganda credentials mo dapat mapatunayan mo rin na ok ka or else you get kicked out of the program.



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Bro.,- Saleslady pa rin ba siya? Ilan taon na siya?

Kawawa naman iyan....Kung mako-contact mo,- baka gusto niya ng trabaho,- as Customer Service Representative/Planner... Puwede siyang mag-apply,- she has to start somewhere in the corporate world,- kaysa masayang naman ang pinag-aralan niya (may honors pa siya) diyan sa pagiging Saleslady.... I am certain that this job will open up opportunities for her here or abroad.....



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Tagal na to sir.

Basta sabi nya, andami raw nya inapply-an. Pero pag nakita raw yung school nya, "tatawagan ka na lang namin". Nai-ignore yung credentials nya.

Sinubok nya mag apply as call center agent. Wala rin.
Yung heavy visayan accent din daw ang problema.

Landmark lang tumanggap sa kanya.

I dont know, baka ngayon eh umangat na sya at nakahanap na ng mas maayos na trabaho.


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[Red Advent 04]

:old::old::old:






sarap talaga maging studz..na miz ko old skul days..

[miLes]

mas bilib ako sa mga may entrepreneurial spirit

high school or college palang mapapansin mo na ang pagiging negosyante nila

mga alpha personality

they can't work for someone else

if you want to lead, you must be able to follow. best business practice is if you are willing to adapt to change, which means we should never stop being a student in life.

which is better, boss ka agad or you worked your way up to being the boss?

[Bin Diesel]

Nung nasa manufacturing ako ang dami ko nainterview na puro college graduate pero ang bagsak operator lang or minsan hindi pa mahire. Ganun kahirap ang buhay kaya you need every edge you can get habang bata ka pa.

Pero syempre in every rule there's an exception, kahit highschool graduate lang pero maganda hired agad tapos dun ka sa office and hindi sa manufacturing area magtatrabaho.

[_Qwerty_]

pag maganda at makinis.. kung marunong bumilang at mag abc.. tanggap na yan!!!

Nung nasa manufacturing ako ang dami ko nainterview na puro college graduate pero ang bagsak operator lang or minsan hindi pa mahire. Ganun kahirap ang buhay kaya you need every edge you can get habang bata ka pa.

Pero syempre in every rule there's an exception, kahit highschool graduate lang pero maganda hired agad tapos dun ka sa office and hindi sa manufacturing area magtatrabaho.

[chua_riwap]

kahit highschool graduate lang pero maganda hired .

Eh syempre ibang usapan na yan........,:naughty2:


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[chua_riwap]

Sa opis namin dati pag opening secretary, line up dapat st.scho, assumption, st.paul.& the likes.

At kami tumitingin sa resume nila. Yung picture pinakauna, height, tsaka weight.
.

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[chookchakchenes]

Late 90s nung mahilig pa ako umalis ng 3am meron ako nakilala chikababes. Tinanong ko saan nag-aaral. Sabi " UL timog." Napaisip ako meron ba skwelahan sa timog. Yun pala "university of Lexus" (nagsarado na....pero bukas na ulit iba na name)

[leodawesome]

TS, madali lang naman sa Mapua. Kung kaya nung mga nagaaral dun eh di kaya mo din. I'm also a product of the quarterm system, and proud to say na walang bahid ang transcript ko (except sa ROTC na di ko pinasukan). Di ka pa nga pumapasok naniwala ka na sa mga sabi sabi na mahirap. Isa pa, kalokohan yung wala ka halos magiging social life dun. Dami organizations na pwede salihan. Baka naman nasa computer shop lang lagi yung mga nagsabi nun.

About education, well sa pilipinas mahihirapan ka umangat sa buhay kung wala ka diploma. Exceptions na lang kung mayaman si papa. Sa ibang bansa talent / skills at diskarte magpapayaman sayo. Nagaaral lang talaga dun yung gusto pumasok sa corporate world, or napilitan magaral.

About school discrimination naman, sad to say talamak yan ngayon sa corporate scene. It pays to be in a big name school, pero syempre nasa tao pa din.

[cardict]

Sa opis namin dati pag opening secretary, line up dapat st.scho, assumption, st.paul.& the likes.

At kami tumitingin sa resume nila. Yung picture pinakauna, height, tsaka weight.
.

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Sir yun bang pictures sa resume full body in two pieces

[jut703]

Sir yun bang pictures sa resume full body in two pieces

Two pieces???? Chop chop lady? 😱


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[dr. d]

mas bilib ako sa mga may entrepreneurial spirit

high school or college palang mapapansin mo na ang pagiging negosyante nila

mga alpha personality

they can't work for someone else

these people end up in only one of two ways...
they become bums, or
they become captains of industry.

[Ciz]

TS, madali lang naman sa Mapua. Kung kaya nung mga nagaaral dun eh di kaya mo din. I'm also a product of the quarterm system, and proud to say na walang bahid ang transcript ko (except sa ROTC na di ko pinasukan). Di ka pa nga pumapasok naniwala ka na sa mga sabi sabi na mahirap. Isa pa, kalokohan yung wala ka halos magiging social life dun. Dami organizations na pwede salihan. Baka naman nasa computer shop lang lagi yung mga nagsabi nun.

About education, well sa pilipinas mahihirapan ka umangat sa buhay kung wala ka diploma. Exceptions na lang kung mayaman si papa. Sa ibang bansa talent / skills at diskarte magpapayaman sayo. Nagaaral lang talaga dun yung gusto pumasok sa corporate world, or napilitan magaral.

About school discrimination naman, sad to say talamak yan ngayon sa corporate scene. It pays to be in a big name school, pero syempre nasa tao pa din.

Thanks po sa mga nag reply

Oo nga po sir, masipag naman ako at matiyaga mag aral. Talagang minalas lang ako nakasira talaga yung "pag aabroad ko dapat". UST talaga dream school ko eh, ngayon sa mapua tinatamaan talaga ako ng takot eh. This time kasi hindi na ako pwede mag transfer ng school. Naka 2 schools na po kasi ako na nilipatan.


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[leodawesome]

Pressure lang sa Mapua. Angbilis ng mga quarter. Kapag nagpabaya ka sayang ang 30k++ na tuition mo for that quarter. Teka ano ba gusto mo na course? Bakit di ka nalang mag UST?

[crave]

Depende rin siguro sa industry na papasukan mo. In our industry (Pharma-manufacturing; not the botika or hospital industry), walang pakialam ang employer kung graduate ka ng UP Manila, UST, Adamson, EAC or saang university pa yan sa probinsiya. Sa mata nila, as long as nakapasa ka sa board exam may panlaban ka na. Pare pareho lang naman kayo marunong humawak at magtimpla ng chemicals.

I used to be a management trainee ng one of the largest toll manufacturer dito sa Pinas. mas prefer ng HR yung applicant (fresh grad or experienced) na galing sa probinsiya or yung applicant na galing sa mahirap na pamilya kesa dun sa applicant na de-kotse at graduate sa maynila. Mas nakakatagal at nakakatiis daw kasi sa pressure at strss yung mga applicant na galing sa hirap. Sa 12 na MT, 3 lang yata kaming graduate sa Manila.

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[CVT]

Pero syempre in every rule there's an exception, kahit highschool graduate lang pero maganda hired agad tapos dun ka sa office and hindi sa manufacturing area magtatrabaho.

I like the way you think bro....