Does school really matter?

[CLAVEL3699]

Ganyan talaga kapag Honors Course diba jut703.

Nakakainis talaga yang parang may discrimination sa school, pero yan reality so far. Dami kasi nag-aapply, kunti vacancy. Marami talaga ang hindi mapagbibigyan.

ang paglalagay nang discrimination sa school ay kadalasan ang mga namamahala nang HR... sa aking obserbasyon pag ang HR ay galing sa top school ang una nyang pipiliin ay tiga top school pero kung ang HR ay galing sa magbubukid na school pero pinilit umasenso pantay pantay ang laban.

hindi nyo po ba napapansin iba ang mundo kadalasan nang tiga HR. hehehehe

[CLAVEL3699]

Ganyan talaga kapag Honors Course diba jut703.

Nakakainis talaga yang parang may discrimination sa school, pero yan reality so far. Dami kasi nag-aapply, kunti vacancy. Marami talaga ang hindi mapagbibigyan.

ang paglalagay nang discrimination sa school ay kadalasan ang mga namamahala nang HR... sa aking obserbasyon pag ang HR ay galing sa top school ang una nyang pipiliin ay tiga top school pero kung ang HR ay galing sa magbubukid na school pero pinilit umasenso pantay pantay ang laban.

hindi nyo po ba napapansin iba ang mundo kadalasan nang tiga HR. hehehehe

[jut703]

starting salary 40k and up?? san yan bro?

Marami bro, yung mga Mangement Trainee program. Ang mga naapplyan namin na ganyan:

Shell Graduate Program (~50k)
Nestle Corporate Management Trainee Program (~45k)
Unilever Future Leaders Program (~60k)
P&G (wala silang MT program pero starting nila 52k for PH-based and much higher pag SG)
HSBC (forgot the name of their program but starting is ~65k)
Kraft Graduate Trainee Program (~48k)
GSK (~42k)
L'Oreal MT program (~40k)

Plus yung benefits pa depending on the exact role given to you (car, fuel and housing allowance, etc etc).

Most of them promise na nasa 80-100k ka na in 3 years if you graduate from the program. Pero yung iba diyan sobrang madugo, parang hunger games matatanggal ka talaga.

So hindi rin enough na maganda credentials mo dapat mapatunayan mo rin na ok ka or else you get kicked out of the program.



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[miLes]

This is a big pet peeve of mine. We hear success stories of people coming from humble educational backgrounds who make it big whether in corporate, business, or showbiz.

What people don't acknowledge is that this is the EXCEPTION, not the rule.

For every one success story, how many stories of underemployment/unemployment/poverty do we have?







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well said!

[shadow]

kung connection lang pala sa college mag ERA college ka na lang... block voting pa! saan ka pa?

[jut703]

Here's an inspiring story I stumbled upon - a street kid works his way towards a scholarship in Germany.

From sleeping in slums to a scholarship in Germany

Eto yung sinasabi niyong, "nasa tao yan". All circumstances were against him - poverty, broken family, public education - but he was able to rise above these.

Caveat though, this is again an exception to the rule. For every Daniel Dejapin, there are millions of street children who succumb to their circumstances and fail to rise out of poverty. Their difference? Daniel's unwavering commitment to education, and admittedly a fair bit of luck in finding a caring NGO.

[chua_riwap]

Most of the offers naman sa newly graduates, minimum salary. Malasin ka pa daraan ka pa sa agency.




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[CVT]

Honors course is a successful marketing of the ADMU... I have not heard any equivalent course in any other school, right?

I just remembered, we hired a university scholar and an engineering board passer recently. Our initial metrics showed she may not be a good fit for the position but we tried anyway, banking on her credentials. She was a graduate of a university north of MM... Sadly, she did not make it even if the staff devoted time to mentor her... If she could just retain the knowledge in a couple of tries she should have been okay, but she could not and her communication skills were severely wanting...

Companies want their new hires to hit the ground running... In this case, she just could not cope up....

[crazy_boy]

ang taas pala ng salary sa MT programs. kawawa naman kaming mga hindi kasama sa MT program.

[CVT]

Ateneo bro. MEA yung org ko, Management Engineering Association. 😊

Alam ko kulay berde ka diba? Hehehe. Team Mika Reyes ako though so magkakasundo tayo 😻


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Ayos bro... Very good education you have there.

Akala ko member ka ng Honors Society sa berde, member din ako,- actually representative from the Discipline Office ni Mang Jack....

[glenn manikis]

kung connection lang pala sa college mag ERA college ka na lang... block voting pa! saan ka pa?

Dapat INC ka din...

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[jut703]

Ayos bro... Very good education you have there.

Akala ko member ka ng Honors Society sa berde, member din ako,- actually representative from the Discipline Office ni Mang Jack....

Salamat bro. Though I must say, you're more impressive since you've made the most of your Lasallian education and have gotten very far in your career. 👍


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[glenn manikis]

ang taas pala ng salary sa MT programs. kawawa naman kaming mga hindi kasama sa MT program.

Kawawa din sa trabaho mga yan...

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[CVT]

Salamat bro. Though I must say, you're more impressive since you've made the most of your Lasallian education and have gotten very far in your career. 👍


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Bro, the best things are coming your way..

Remain steadfast with the Atenean way and you will never go astray...

You have a full life ahead... Make the most of it!!!

[jon777]

It does matter and it matters a LOT... For big multinationals, it is the 1st screening criteria that they utilize. This is a fact that could not be ignored. If one is a graduate of a top 3 school with honors, that person is almost always assured of a good paying job right after college.same thing could not be said if one graduated from a tier 3 school. This is not unique in the Philippines. Law graduates of the top 20 Law Schools in the US are almost assured of an entry level associate jobs topping $120,000 in annual salary.

I handle hiring/promoting of supervisors and managers in our family business. We are not yet big enough to attract graduates of the top 3 schools but I do noticed that graduates from NCR schools are better when it comes to analytical, communication and presentation skills. Part of my requirement is for an interviewee to explain and analyze sales and inventory data. I'm a graduate of DLSU Manila and hopefully in the near future our family business would be big enough to attract DLSU grads and graduates of the 2 other big schools.

[holdencaulfield]

Totoo yan.

May neighbor kami na graduate sa isang never heard na school sa mindanao, w/ honors. 2 pa kurso tinapos.

Unfortunately wala gusto kumuha sa kanya. Bagsak nya sa landmark, saleslady.

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napanood ko si che che lazaro may ininterview siyang mga homeless.
yung isang homeless na ininterview niya gradweyt ng never heard na eskwela dito sa manila. galing siya sa province, ang hirap raw ng buhay nila roon. binenta ng ama niyang magbubukid yung kalabaw, lupa. etc. makatapos lang siya ng siya naman makapagtaguyod sa pamilya niya.
magaling at masipag mag-aral, nakatapos. suma cumlaude ata?
naghanap ng naghanap ng trabaho. walang kumukuha sa kaniya. hanggang sa nag bagger boy sa uniwide. nagtrabaho sa mga grocery, malls sa manila.
hanggang sa nakita na lang niya sarili niyang lumalaboy.
nawalan na ng pagasa.

[manilamako]

Importante grumaduate sa isang magandang university, lalo na pag UAAP/NCAA season na ulit.

[miLes]

It does matter and it matters a LOT... For big multinationals, it is the 1st screening criteria that they utilize. This is a fact that could not be ignored. If one is a graduate of a top 3 school with honors, that person is almost always assured of a good paying job right after college.same thing could not be said if one graduated from a tier 3 school. This is not unique in the Philippines. Law graduates of the top 20 Law Schools in the US are almost assured of an entry level associate jobs topping $120,000 in annual salary.

I handle hiring/promoting of supervisors and managers in our family business. We are not yet big enough to attract graduates of the top 3 schools but I do noticed that graduates from NCR schools are better when it comes to analytical, communication and presentation skills. Part of my requirement is for an interviewee to explain and analyze sales and inventory data. I'm a graduate of DLSU Manila and hopefully in the near future our family business would be big enough to attract DLSU grads and graduates of the 2 other big schools.

pwede naman if the pay and benefits are right

[uls]

prefer kasi ng mga galing sa top universities mga top companies

they're not only after pay they're after prestige

kaya they don't apply at Mang Bhoy Enterprises

syempre pag tinanong sila "where do you work?" cool ang sagot na "Shell" or "Unilever"

[uls]

mas bilib ako sa mga may entrepreneurial spirit

high school or college palang mapapansin mo na ang pagiging negosyante nila

mga alpha personality

they can't work for someone else