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    #361
    eto ang dahilan why some thought leonardo was gay.

    A remarkable event happened on 8. April 1476. At this time it was usual to put anonymous accusations in a wooden box (called tamburo), which was put up in front of the Palazzo Vecchio (Picture).
    On 8. April Leonardo and four others were accused. The anonymous person accused Leonardo to have a homo***ual affair with Jacopo Saltarelli, who was a model. The procedure ended for all participants with an acquittal of the charge.
    This story is an indication of the supposed homo***uality of Leonardo da Vinci.

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    #362
    Quote Originally Posted by margaux
    hehe... yun lang ba yung di pinakita from the book?
    Other than making some parts in the movie shorter, they took out some extra "lecture" portions about the mysteries behind Da Vinci's paintings, most of the details though are fiction, rumors, myths etc yet still interesting if you like old paintings.
    Like the "Madonna of the rocks" for example:

    This original version above was a bit bizarre and unorthodox(look at the strange hand gestures) ...he gave a long explanation on this in the book which they skipped in the movie.
    This is the 2nd version below (watered-down?)
    Its now known as the "Virgin of the Rocks".


    This is the wikipedia version of Dan Brown's explanation:
    In the popular novel The Da Vinci Code, written by the American novelist Dan Brown, it is claimed that the earlier Louvre version contained hidden symbolism which contradicted orthodox Christian belief, notably the fact that Jesus is shown praying to John rather than the other way round (the novel implies that the baby at the left must be Jesus rather than John, because he is with the Madonna). It is also claimed that the Virgin appears to be holding an invisible head and that Uriel appears to be "slicing the neck" with his finger. Allegedly, for this reason the painting was rejected by the Church, and a second, more orthodox, version was painted.

    There is no historical evidence to support any of these contentions. The only significant compositional difference between the two versions (excluding the later addition of attributes) is the fact that Uriel no longer points. However this difference may well be explained by the possibility that the distinction between Jesus and John was thought to be insufficiently clear in the earlier picture because John is with the Madonna, and that the pointing gesture directed too much attention to John.

    Indeed far from the painting being "too scandalous" to show in a church, Leonardo and de Predises actually wanted more money from the church than had been originally agreed. The church agreed to pay a substantial bonus but not as much as Leonardo and de Predises wanted. So Leonardo and de Predises sold it to a private collector and then made a second copy (arguably a superior one as it turned out). So popular (not scandalous) did these paintings prove that it is believed that they painted a third version which is now lost.
    -wikipedia

    The original "Madonna of the rocks" is in the Louvre, Paris while the second version hangs in the National Gallery in London under the title "Virgin of the rocks"
    Last edited by AG4; May 21st, 2006 at 08:19 AM.

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    #363
    yung mickey mouse nakita ko nung nasa armored truck sila habang minamasahe ni sophie ang ulo ng robert...

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    #364
    watched it last night..medyo bored ako sa 1st half..ending was longer than expected..buti nalang P50 lang bayad sa mall cinema dito

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    #365
    P50 mura ah

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    #366
    napanuod na namin..ok naman sakin yung movie,hindi boring kahit na 2hrs++ siya..sabi nga ng hun ko may mga naiba compared sa book..

    grabeh yung pila sa glorieta cinema kahapon,nakakamatay ata yung dami ng tao..buti sa gb3 kami...

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    #367
    The book is much better than the movie. I couldn't put it down when I started reading it. The movie was nice to watch. Both formats were highly entertaining.

    Being a thinking practioner of Christianity, I question some teachings from time to time. I owe it to myself not to be a blind follower. But this book and movie, did not even prick my belief since it is obviously a fiction.

    I am more offended of over-acting politicians and religious officials who think we cannot be entrusted to consume such information (or recreation). Could it be that, to a large extent, it is all this overreaction that is feeding the snowballing interest in this movie?

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    #368
    just watched it .. found the movie so-so .. my father-in-law slept during the first part .. i was praying that he wouldn't snore .. hehe ..

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    #369
    Quote Originally Posted by neko-chan
    hmmm, nawala yung mga posters ng Da Vinci Code sa SM Cinemas na dati nasa next attraction... magkakaroon kaya ng surprise grand premiere o totally hindi ipapalabas sa SM? Biggest Cinema operator ang SM, if i'm not mistaken. And i heard that Henry Sy is a renewed Christian..

    Sa mga independent cinemas ko siguro papanoorin to...
    I heard his wife and himself are ... which explains the nice looking church very near Mall of Asia (c/o Henry Sy). Which explains why SM has pulled out this movie from their cinemas.

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    #370
    showing kaya ito sa edsa shang mall? mahaba din kaya ang pila dito kung weekdays?
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    #371
    Quote Originally Posted by Dvorak
    nag open reservation sa GB3 at around 8.15pm last night.. mahal ha.. 170.00 for cinema 1 and 2 plus 20.00 reservation..
    I watched sa Robinsons Ermita/Manila for only 110 petot. Sa Cinema 1 nila, ang ganda ng sounds. And unlike SM Cinemas, its clean. No popcorn or sticky floor.

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    #372
    sa Promenade di gano madami tao, lalo na yun Greenhills theatre yun katabi ng Music museum andami bakante kahit 8pm ka pumunta

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    #373
    Quote Originally Posted by kimpOy
    yung mickey mouse nakita ko nung nasa armored truck sila habang minamasahe ni sophie ang ulo ng robert...

    i havent noticed lg siguro ;)

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    Differences between book and film
    Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.



    * In the movie, Langdon received the photograph of Sauniere's corpse after giving a symbology lecture in a university, while he is autographing his books. In the book, he is contacted after he returned to his hotel.
    * The movie makes no verbal reference to the Divine Proportion, however, during a sequence in which Langdon cuts his face shaving, the pattern of the blood droplet in the sink vaguely resembles the shape of the Greek letter Phi.
    * Sophie found the hidden message in the Mona Lisa written at the bottom right of the painting. In the novel it is scrawled directly across Mona Lisa's face just like the one shown in the earlier trailers of the film.
    * In the movie, Langdon deciphered the code "So Dark The Con of Man" hidden in the Mona Lisa a few minutes after they found it; whereas in the book it took more time.
    * Bank manager and one-time collaborator André Vernet turns against Langdon and Sophie because he has been waiting 30 years for somebody to return for the contents of the safe, and believes they may have killed a man to access his valuables. In the movie his selfish interests in the contents are insinuated, whereas in the book a fuller explanation is given of his dedication to protect Sauniere's interests as his client.
    * In the movie, Fache goes to the hospital to find Vernet and tells him to turn on the homing device, while in the book Vernet does so without telling Fache, so that his bank's reputation is not spoiled.
    * No mention is ever made in the movie of the surveillance equipment in the top of the barn at Teabing's manor, nor of the miniature knight in Sauniere's office in which a bug had been placed.
    * There is no second cryptex inside the first. The solution to the cryptex (and the mirrored writing found on the panel behind the rose logo on the box) is the same as the second one in the book.
    * The role of Opus Dei in the movie is significantly less ominous than their portrayal in the book. In the movie, Aringarosa is a sinister member of a secret council of priests, called the Council of Shadows, dedicated to the destruction of the Sangreal rather than the desperate leader of Opus Dei dealing with an official council of the Vatican. This leaves Silas' role as more of the tormented executor rather that of the blindly faithful servant.
    * It is revealed that Bezu Fache is a member of Opus Dei in the movie; not mentioned in the book. He decides to pursue Robert Langdon as he was given a false tip by Bishop Aringarosa whom he trusted.
    * Langdon does not carefully hide the cryptex under furniture to prevent Teabing from discovering it prematurely the way he does in the book.
    * In the movie Teabing uses sophisticated computer animation to demonstrate codes in Da Vinci's paintings; whereas in the book he merely points at prints.
    * The name of Rémy Legaludec, Leigh Teabing's butler, is changed in the film to "Remy Jean" instead of Rémy Legaludec".
    * Remy tells Silas that he is The Teacher in the limo, instead of one of his servants. Remy is poisoned by a pier in the Docklands of London instead of in the limo.
    * Silas is killed by police-assisted suicide to show his pain beside where he shot Aringarosa. In the book he flees the scene with mortal wounds and dies in a park.
    * In the novel, Robert and Sophie go to a library in London to discover the relevance of A. Pope. Whereas in the movie they borrow a cell phone web browser on a city bus after they realize it will take too long to get to the library. Sophie uses feminine attractiveness to borrow the phone [which may introduce a technique not present in the book]. It is almost comical when the passenger selected merely for his cell phone ends up helping by saying something about the search pattern results on his phone like what a professional librarian data-search expert would say.
    * In the book, Sophie and Robert find a note at Newton's tomb telling them to go to a chapel in order to save Teabing, and it is at this chapel where they realize Teabing is "the Teacher". In the movie, Teabing reveals his true identity right at the tomb.
    * The revelation of the Teacher and the rest of the ending is presented differently. In the movie, Langdon and Sophie discovered the Sangreal documents - and thus the secrets of Sophie's ancestry - hidden beneath the Rosslyn Chapel. However, in the novel Langdon tells Sophie that she is not a descendant of Christ, and Langdon does not discover the location of the Sangreal documents on his own until the epilogue.
    * The entrance to the tomb beneath Rosslyn Chapel is easily found in the movie, beneath an obvious symbol of the unified chalice and blade. In the book, no such entrance to the underground chamber exists (the chamber had only been confirmed by sonograms, but Langdon and Sophie never see it) and the chalice/blade symbol is less obvious (the path of footprints worn into the floor).
    * In the book, Jacques Sauniere is Sophie's grandfather, and she is reunited with her grandmother, who lives behind the Rosslyn Chapel, and her brother, the docent, at the end, where it is revealed in the narrative that her grandmother and grandfather separated with great difficulty for the mere purpose of changing the family names and protecting the grandchildren in separate families. In the movie, Langdon tells Sophie that he believes that Jacques Sauniere is not her real grandfather. The docent is never announced as Sophie's brother. Instead, a legion of protectors of the holy grail meet Sophie with her grandmother, the rest being left unexplained.
    * In the book, Robert and Sophie kiss in the end. In the movie, Sophie "cures" Robert's phobia, and there are other very sublime touching moments between them, barely implying that some relationship could continue, but without ever implying romance.
    * In the movie, there are a sequence of dots that appear for only a few frames. These dots are similar to the laser etchings on the key that Langdon and Sophie discover behind the painting.
    * In the movie, Langdon counsels Sophie that it may not necessarily be important or right to prove the bloodline; that it will have to be largely her choice, and that it could be a matter of faith and of deciding which set of beliefs to promote; asking if the proof really matters, anyway. In the book, an explanation is given earlier that the "two" versions of history are merely different, not necessarily making one totally correct over the other, an explanation missing from the movie.
    * In the move, Sophie tries to walk on water, and jokes about making water into wine, presumably due to having Jesus’ and Mary's miracle-making genes or blood. In the book, there is no such reference.
    * In the book, Leigh shows quotes of Leonardo Da Vinci and many books including Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
    * In the book, Silas has red eyes and Sophie has green eyes, while in the movie, they have other colors.
    * In the book, Teabing puts peanut dust into Remy's cognac in order to poison him, since Remy has an allergy to peanuts. In the film, the method of poisoning is unspecified and Remy's allergy is not mentioned.
    * In the book, Langdon is a firm believer in the Grail theory. However, in the film he dismisses most of it as myth and even argues with Teabing about it several times.

    Spoilers end here.

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    #375
    Quote Originally Posted by kimpOy
    yung mickey mouse nakita ko nung nasa armored truck sila habang minamasahe ni sophie ang ulo ng robert...
    Hinihintay ko ngang pansinin ni Sophie yung relo niya eh, considering na mga dalawang beses nakita sa camera. Yun pala, yung audience na lang ang bahalang pumansin.

    Satisfied na sana ako sa pelikula, yun nga lang sobrang dami ng deviations from the novel. Tapos nung nakita ko yung credits, bigla akong napamura sa isip ko. Si Akiva Goldsman pala yung sumulat ng screenplay, no wonder the story was ruined.

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    #376
    Brown likes cars hehe, all his books, claro ang description ng mga oto, even if it's totally unnecesarry to plug the brands and models ng oto.

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    page 66

    The collection was astonishing—a black Ferrari, a pristine Rolls-Royce, an antique Astin
    Martin sports coupe, a vintage Porsche 356.
    The last stall was empty.
    Collet ran over and saw oil stains on the stall floor.

    page 67
    the Range Rover was java black pearl, four-wheel drive, standard transmission..


    a leaking Range Rover saves the day!!!

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    #378
    Quote Originally Posted by kimpOy
    page 66

    The collection was astonishing—a black Ferrari, a pristine Rolls-Royce, an antique Astin
    Martin sports coupe, a vintage Porsche 356.
    The last stall was empty.
    Collet ran over and saw oil stains on the stall floor.

    page 67
    the Range Rover was java black pearl, four-wheel drive, standard transmission..


    a leaking Range Rover saves the day!!!
    Correction, its not pages 66 and 67.
    The car collection was mentioned in p.305 of Chapter 66 and the Java Black Range Rover in p.306 of Chapter 67.
    Last edited by AG4; May 22nd, 2006 at 03:08 PM.

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    #379
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    it's like saying that Jesus shared Mary Magdalene sa apostles like some orgy coz according to Da vinci, Mary magdalene is the blood. we should really approach this with caution coz I'm beginning to believe than this Dan Brown character is a perverted individual, for even associating the Last Supper symbolisms with Da Vinci's painting of Last Supper.
    Ganyan nga ang ibig sabihin kaya nga di ba sa book nagalit si Sophie sa Grandfather nya dahil nahuli nya sya with other priory members doing a ***ual act. Naging part ng priory of psion ang ganyang practice. Kaya nga maraming nag-react kasi if you look deeply di talaga maganda message ng book.....that is if the reader has a high understanding of what he/she is reading. Tignan mo tayo na-gets natin yung ganung mensahe ;)
    Last edited by jim; May 22nd, 2006 at 03:27 PM.

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    #380
    bad bad book! but then again fiction lng naman..depende na gaano kasensitive or religious ang reader..

Da Vinci Code