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    #901
    If cabin temp goes above aircon temp setting engine will restart. From the long list of conditions (IIRC that list was posted here somewhere) if the aircon temp is not the lowest or highest i-stop won't activate anyway.

    Some owners in AU posted that some units may have been released with a normal battery instead of the required Q85 so their i-stop didn't work. A battery replacement was recommended.


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    #902
    Reasons why a specific battery for i-stop system is necessary

    When a vehicle equipped with i-stop system stops at a red light, engine is stopped for fuel economy improvement. When the vehicle starts to drive again, the engine restarts. So, battery discharging and charging are repeated in a short period of time.
    Also, during i-stop operation, as electric power for air conditioning and audio systems etc. is supplied from the battery only, discharging occurs more than on vehicles without i-stop system.
    If a battery other than the specifically designed for i-stop is used instead, its lifecycle may be reduced or it may disable i-stop function.

    http://www.rx8club.com/attachments/g...top-system-pdf

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    #903
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    If cabin temp goes above aircon temp setting engine will restart. From the long list of conditions (IIRC that list was posted here somewhere) if the aircon temp is not the lowest or highest i-stop won't activate anyway.

    Some owners in AU posted that some units may have been released with a normal battery instead of the required Q85 so their i-stop didn't work. A battery replacement was recommended.

    so technically you can drive your car using a regular or local battery but istop wont function???

    Sent from my Omega HD 2.0 using Tapatalk 2

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    #904
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    so technically you can drive your car using a regular or local battery but istop wont function???

    Sent from my Omega HD 2.0 using Tapatalk 2
    2) Reasons why a specific battery for i-stop system is necessary
     When a vehicle equipped with i-stop system stops at a red light, engine is stopped for fuel economy improvement. When the vehicle starts to drive again, the engine restarts. So, battery discharging and charging are repeated in a short period of time.
     Also, during i-stop operation, as electric power for air conditioning and audio systems etc. is supplied from the battery only, discharging occurs more than on vehicles without i-stop system.
     If a battery other than the specifically designed for i-stop is used instead, its lifecycle may be reduced or it may disable i-stop function.
    Last edited by Densker; July 17th, 2013 at 07:53 PM.

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    #905
    Quote Originally Posted by Densker View Post
    2) Reasons why a specific battery for i-stop system is necessary
     When a vehicle equipped with i-stop system stops at a red light, engine is stopped for fuel economy improvement. When the vehicle starts to drive again, the engine restarts. So, battery discharging and charging are repeated in a short period of time.
     Also, during i-stop operation, as electric power for air conditioning and audio systems etc. is supplied from the battery only, discharging occurs more than on vehicles without i-stop system.
     If a battery other than the specifically designed for i-stop is used instead, its lifecycle may be reduced or it may disable i-stop function.
    you might save on gas but again the weakness is the battery...

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    #906
    I've tried the i-Stop on the Mz6. It's actually rather foolproof and not intrusive. It was smart enough to know when I was in stop and go traffic and when I was really stopped because of a red light, and it only turned the engine off during the latter. Aircon also remained on despite the engine being off, though it was much weaker (similar to when you turn your aircon on with a conventional car placed in ACC mode).

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    #907
    Sabi sa akin ng Service Advisor, Motolite daw is developing a localized version already. Hopefully by the time your batteries expire or run out, nakalabas na yung Motolite for i-stop.

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    #908
    Quote Originally Posted by germs View Post
    Sabi sa akin ng Service Advisor, Motolite daw is developing a localized version already. Hopefully by the time your batteries expire or run out, nakalabas na yung Motolite for i-stop.
    nasabi din sa akin ito pero walang definite date. kaka-order lang daw ng motolite ng Mazda 6 para pag aralan ang battery

    ganun daw ginawa ng BMW dito, motolite ang supplier ng battery nila sa mga sasakyan na may istop (meron palang ganun sa BMW PH ngayon)

    Pero chisimis lang sa akin ito ha? hahaha

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    #909
    Haha meron na rin naman tech nga na ganyan yung mga euro brands dito. I mean even peugeot has it in some of their models, but the question still is, saan ang battery? Haha.

    Does that mean na exclusively supplied lang kay bmw yung mga hinawa ng motolite for istop tech? Bawal ilabas pa sa market? Kung meron na si bmw then di na pala kelangan magdevelop ni motolite kasi andyan na.

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    #910
    Alam ko Peugeot has it din. AFAIK Mazda lang ang first "mainstream" brand na naglabas neto kaya ngayon lang napansin. The Euro brand owners kasi iwan lang sa casa usually tapos blank check lang

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    #911
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    2 casas confirmed that it is using a different battery, one quoted it for 15k and 17k for the other. also looking closely at the battery of awd you will notice the "for start stop" but for the 2.0, none of these were written
    According to Mazda Greenhills, price for the CX5 keyless remote is P17,686 (includes parts and labor for programming). Will take 2-3 weeks upon ordering. 50% down payment is needed should you wish to proceed with the order.

    Wow, this small thing is more expensive than the battery pala. Better get a keychain that has a belt strap hook so you can always hook it on you.
    Does the CX-5 2.0L have the same keyless remote with the 2.5L variant?

    Sir c_cube,
    Which dealer gave you the 15k price for the battery? Would like to ask them price for the keyless remote, baka mas mura sila? TIA.

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    #912
    Quote Originally Posted by WilsonL View Post
    Wow, this small thing is more expensive than the battery pala. Better get a keychain that has a belt strap hook so you can always hook it on you.
    Does the CX-5 2.0L have the same keyless remote with the 2.5L variant?
    Yep. Two identical keys. My dad uses a carabiner with a plastic cord so it's easy to fish out of the pocket to unlock the doors.

    17k pala ang susi. IIRC 7k ang Mirage (keyless push button start). Cheaper na rin compared to a euro brand na sing-presyo ng underbone ang susi

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    #913
    Quote Originally Posted by WilsonL View Post
    Sir c_cube,
    Which dealer gave you the 15k price for the battery? Would like to ask them price for the keyless remote, baka mas mura sila? TIA.
    15k sa mazda Greenhills
    17k sa maz QA

    Mahal pala nun susi na yan.. pero so far in my 12 yrs of driving never pa naman ako nawalan ng susi.. knock on wood

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    #914
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    15k sa mazda Greenhills
    17k sa maz QA

    Mahal pala nun susi na yan.. pero so far in my 12 yrs of driving never pa naman ako nawalan ng susi.. knock on wood

    Sent from my Omega HD 2.0 using Tapatalk 2
    I called Mazda QA to ask and this is their price:

    1,097 for the key (blank key siya, they don't do key duplication. You have to have it duplicated with key duplicating vendors like mr. quickie)
    7,988 for the remote transmitter
    3,500 for the programming of the remote transmitter ( you have to set an appointment and bring the car and your existing key for programming)
    50% down on ordering and 2 to 3 days makuha since available as of now sa planta.

    Total cost is 12,585 w/o key duplication. That's about 5k difference from price of Mazda Greenhills. That means dealers do not have standard pricing and have parts that are sometimes more expensive than other dealers and sometimes cheaper. I thought standard pricing and mga dealers when it comes to original car parts since same lang source nila. If ever sa accessories lang sila magkaiba ng price.

    When I asked about the programming, the parts advisor asked me if the keyless remote came with a metal tag with a code engraved on it. I told him there was no metal tag. Just a paper tag that had the chassis number written on it. Did you guys get a metal tag with your keyless remote for your CX-5?

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    #915
    Quote Originally Posted by WilsonL View Post
    When I asked about the programming, the parts advisor asked me if the keyless remote came with a metal tag with a code engraved on it. I told him there was no metal tag. Just a paper tag that had the chassis number written on it. Did you guys get a metal tag with your keyless remote for your CX-5?
    All our recently-purchased remote-equipped cars have this tiny metal tag. It's about a half inch long and a quarter inch wide with a few digits stamped on it. Our Mazda SA put it inside our casa file for safe keeping. On our Vios and Mirage we left it on the spare key and I took pictures of the tags just the same. The tags are supposed to be your security system code. Lose that and you risk having to replace your whole security system when you run out of keys.

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    #916
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    All our recently-purchased remote-equipped cars have this tiny metal tag. It's about a half inch long and a quarter inch wide with a few digits stamped on it. Our Mazda SA put it inside our casa file for safe keeping. On our Vios and Mirage we left it on the spare key and I took pictures of the tags just the same. The tags are supposed to be your security system code. Lose that and you risk having to replace your whole security system when you run out of keys.
    Thanks for the info Sir JohnM. I should ask my SA about this coz mine did not come with it. Although the Parts Advisor said that maybe the main plant changed their system and did not need the code anymore to program the remote transmitter. Buti na lang I decided to ask you guys. Thanks again.

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    #917
    Quote Originally Posted by WilsonL View Post
    According to Mazda Greenhills, price for the CX5 keyless remote is P17,686 (includes parts and labor for programming). Will take 2-3 weeks upon ordering. 50% down payment is needed should you wish to proceed with the order.

    Wow, this small thing is more expensive than the battery pala. Better get a keychain that has a belt strap hook so you can always hook it on you.
    Does the CX-5 2.0L have the same keyless remote with the 2.5L variant?

    Sir c_cube,
    Which dealer gave you the 15k price for the battery? Would like to ask them price for the keyless remote, baka mas mura sila? TIA.
    afaik, meron din keyless remote ang cx5 2.0L

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    #918
    Sa mga AWD owners, magkano inabot ng insurance niyo?

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    #919
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    Sa mga AWD owners, magkano inabot ng insurance niyo?
    Quotation sakin nun is 36k with AOG

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    #920
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    Sa mga AWD owners, magkano inabot ng insurance niyo?
    Insurance for my CX-5 AWD cost me 39k w/ AOG.

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