2008 Hyundai Starex (Gen. 4)

[CVT]

Hehehe! Now that's the tricky part to this theory. How long before it'll actually work...


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It should work (ATF becoming homogeneous), after a few minutes of driving... If you just turn on your engine,- you could see the ATF flow through the dialysis machine's clear tube....

And so,- volume of torque converter vs. total volume should provide us an idea on the %purity of the ATF after x drain and refill...

[During my last ATF dialysis of our Toyota,- I used over 3X the full volume of the ATF,- and so this is our tip-off point]

Yes,- bro.,- your model works!

[In comparison,- the casa is doing the drain and refill activities only - every 40KKm] So, there's the difference.

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[JJB]

That is actually a novel idea, bro....

I just have a couple of questions,- what's the approx volume of the ATF in the torque converter? what is the approx volume of ATF overall? With this, we can compute for the purity of the ATF after x drain/refill, assuming the ATF becomes homogeneous after X Kms of driving....


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10 liters ang total ATF needed
Dont know sa torque converter but they say drain and fill only changes 60% of the volume

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[yebo]

when i had mine done sabi sa akin 8 liters daw pati torque converter if totally empty, 14 liters before it got clear as new, + 1 more liter to be sure. so 7 liters lang na-add to the total atf required volume.

however kung 10 liters as jjb said, then that only takes 5 liters more. imho in both case worth it ang dialysis method kasi at most double lang ng required.

[JJB]

Need din ba to change AT filter, if meron sa GS, while doing dialysis?

[IMm29]

Interesting discussion [emoji4]

Kinda adds up: dialysis vs drain and refill at half the mileage.

If changing 7L of ATF every 20tkms would be the relatively correct mix to effectively clean out the tranny, then 15L via the dialysis at 40tkms is easier on the calendar though not as forgiving on the wallet at a certain time.

If that is the right mix. [emoji6]

Shell has on its PMS checklist ATF replacement every 20tkms. Apparently they were on the money.


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[IMm29]

Need din ba to change AT filter, if meron sa GS, while doing dialysis?

Kung meron, i think this would be a good time to do it.


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[yebo]

Need din ba to change AT filter, if meron sa GS, while doing dialysis?

no such animal bossing, no atf filter on the grx and the gs. there is a strainer inside the tranny but this is made of stainless steel wire. you'll need to open the bottom cover of the tranny to get to it to clean it.

i found this out the hard way when my grx was flooded, bumili ako ng "filter" worth p2500 yun pala washable naman. the thing was nilista lang ng hyundai balintawak sa job list e wala naman ako alam during that time na strainer pala itong filter na to.

[JJB]

Thanks for the tip!
Tip ko rin re the casa: they lack professional mechanics that's why sometimes they train even their janitors to turn them into their branch's "mechanics". Mga basic maintenance lang naman pinapagawa sa kanila.

[IMm29]

Strainer lang, but their task list says may filter?! Damn!


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[CVT]

Interesting discussion [emoji4]

Kinda adds up: dialysis vs drain and refill at half the mileage.

If changing 7L of ATF every 20tkms would be the relatively correct mix to effectively clean out the tranny, then 15L via the dialysis at 40tkms is easier on the calendar though not as forgiving on the wallet at a certain time.

If that is the right mix. [emoji6]

Shell has on its PMS checklist ATF replacement every 20tkms. Apparently they were on the money.


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Actually, in the manual (and I will verify this as I could be referring to another vehicle), and if I remember correctly, ATF replacement should be at around 80KKm....

And so, the practice of 40KKm is significantly guardbanded.


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[IMm29]

^^Wouldn't that also depend on the driving conditions, perhaps somehow like with the case of engine oils?


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[CVT]

^^Wouldn't that also depend on the driving conditions, perhaps somehow like with the case of engine oils?


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Yes bro, checked the H1 manual.....under severe driving condition like 50% city driving with temperature exceeding 32C.... pasok tayo riyan so every 40kkm... 90kkm under normal driving conditions... practically the same with the other AT rides of different brands like Toyota, Mitsubishi and Honda....

[IMm29]

Ah ok. Thanks bro!


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[Wh1stl3r2]

Does anyone have a workshop manual for the GS? Getting fed up with Hyundai dealerships. Exorbitant charges but no results. Parts are even more expensive than Toyota with no assurance if they are real or fake. More frustrating for Hyundai, the words "genuine", "original", "oem" are used in so many different ways.

I think I have to DIY the suspension.

[carguy101]

Does anyone have a workshop manual for the GS? Getting fed up with Hyundai dealerships. Exorbitant charges but no results. Parts are even more expensive than Toyota with no assurance if they are real or fake. More frustrating for Hyundai, the words "genuine", "original", "oem" are used in so many different ways.

I think I have to DIY the suspension.

Hyundai Service Website

though they say its applicable for us costumer only, try mo... and i dont think its free
official hyundai site ito



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[ronw123w124]

Does anyone have a workshop manual for the GS? Getting fed up with Hyundai dealerships. Exorbitant charges but no results. Parts are even more expensive than Toyota with no assurance if they are real or fake. More frustrating for Hyundai, the words "genuine", "original", "oem" are used in so many different ways.

I think I have to DIY the suspension.

Why not bring your Starex to Goodgear or Fronte, they have mechanics there on stand by and from what I heard, they're pretty good.

[minicarph]

Why not bring your Starex to Goodgear or Fronte, they have mechanics there on stand by and from what I heard, they're pretty good.

Yeah they nust be very good pero grabe na din pumresyo, mas mataas paxsa gasolinahan. At least sa gasoline station, may lifter and maayos. Sa Fronte, talagang sa front lang ng Fronte, may canal, may mga dura, may mga beggars, typical banawe street.

Imagine fuel filter installation, P500 daw. Eh sa shell P300 lang pwede pa card.

I suggest you study similar videos on the internet about your suspension and bring it to a respectable place.

Suspension problems are the essiest to fix coz di naman kelangan ng obd yan



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[JJB]

Yeah they nust be very good pero grabe na din pumresyo, mas mataas paxsa gasolinahan. At least sa gasoline station, may lifter and maayos. Sa Fronte, talagang sa front lang ng Fronte, may canal, may mga dura, may mga beggars, typical banawe street.

Imagine fuel filter installation, P500 daw. Eh sa shell P300 lang pwede pa card.

I suggest you study similar videos on the internet about your suspension and bring it to a respectable place.

Suspension problems are the essiest to fix coz di naman kelangan ng obd yan



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Wow, never knew that mahal maningil ang mga mekaniko sa fronte. Never pa ako nagpagawa sa kanila. Kala ko rin na may sariling area for repairs. Sa parking lang nila ginagawa ang ATF dialysis?
OB, dun mo pinagawa sta fe mo?

[CVT]

Wow, never knew that mahal maningil ang mga mekaniko sa fronte. Never pa ako nagpagawa sa kanila. Kala ko rin na may sariling area for repairs. Sa parking lang nila ginagawa ang ATF dialysis?
OB, dun mo pinagawa sta fe mo?

I see no issue in doing the ATF dialysis in the parking lot bro., for as long as they have the properly maintained equipment to do it. Our GS is nearing 40KKm,- mga 1 year pa siguro ,- and I'll have the ATF dialysis in a gasoline station service bay...

However, I am getting the chill from the cost of the assemblies.... Have to take very good care of our rig....

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[Wh1stl3r2]

Why not bring your Starex to Goodgear or Fronte, they have mechanics there on stand by and from what I heard, they're pretty good.

Yeah they nust be very good pero grabe na din pumresyo, mas mataas paxsa gasolinahan. At least sa gasoline station, may lifter and maayos. Sa Fronte, talagang sa front lang ng Fronte, may canal, may mga dura, may mga beggars, typical banawe street.

Imagine fuel filter installation, P500 daw. Eh sa shell P300 lang pwede pa card.

I suggest you study similar videos on the internet about your suspension and bring it to a respectable place.

Suspension problems are the essiest to fix coz di naman kelangan ng obd yan



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Sorry I missed this thread. Suspension was finally fixed by Fronte. Turned out to be a couple of bushings and stab links. Fronte only does the work in their parking area but at least the mechanics know more about Hyundais in general.

GS had low power going uphill so I had the egr cleaned yesterday. Sobrang barado na. Egr tube, valve and intake manifold were all gunked up. So was the cat converter. 4 years of Euro 2 fuel and mostly city driving was really bad for the egr. I didn't have it blanked as it still had Hancars "warranty". It now runs like new.

Next up will be the intercooler.