All New 2016 Civic

[anasazi]

When do you use S mode?


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Best time to use it sir on open highway with little to no traffic

First time to use it sir last weekend sa SLEX going to Tagaytay and back to Manila

I enjoyed my Civic more during that time

Overtaking is a breeze and you'll feel and notice the engine response is quicker than driving in D with Eco On. By the way I used S mode with Eco Off.

Trip meter says I averaged at 12.9km/l during Tagaytay back to BGC. Note that it was already 2am and I tried to drive past 120kph for a short short time (overtake 2 cars in front on a clear road)

drive safe

[AC_23]

Best time to use it sir on open highway with little to no traffic

First time to use it sir last weekend sa SLEX going to Tagaytay and back to Manila

I enjoyed my Civic more during that time

Overtaking is a breeze and you'll feel and notice the engine response is quicker than driving in D with Eco On. By the way I used S mode with Eco Off.

Trip meter says I averaged at 12.9km/l during Tagaytay back to BGC. Note that it was already 2am and I tried to drive past 120kph for a short short time (overtake 2 cars in front on a clear road)

drive safe

hmmm. I find it quite low to have only 12.9 km/l on the highway. I've tried having 16-18 km/l from QC-NLEX-SCTEX and vice versa. using only D, eco off and driving 100-120 kph. i'm using only 1.8 E.

tried shifting from D to S while driving along SCTEX, and got shock because of sudden fluctuate of my RPM from 2k RPM to 3-4k RPM (i think) in just a few seconds. hahahaha! then I immediately shifted back to D. i am not sure if I have done it correctly. hahahahaha!

[AC_23]

newbie here.. ask lng po mga sir kung good deal n b ung nakuha nming insurance 26k plus free lto tapos discount n 5 k sa unit..

3 weeks n po waiting kmi sa unit 1.8 e cvt wop
tia po

free 3 years LTO is almost always a default across all Honda Dealers. 5K discount is ok considering our unit is new and there's really scarcity of available units, specially you wanted for a WOP. i got mine 15k discount from Honda Makati for a midnight burgundy and luckily to have my unit in just 10 working days.

well, as to your insurance, maybe it depends on the coverage for that 26k. I got mine at 33k, but the coverage is pretty ok and deductible is only 2k.

[jut703]

hmmm. I find it quite low to have only 12.9 km/l on the highway. I've tried having 16-18 km/l from QC-NLEX-SCTEX and vice versa. using only D, eco off and driving 100-120 kph. i'm using only 1.8 E.

tried shifting from D to S while driving along SCTEX, and got shock because of sudden fluctuate of my RPM from 2k RPM to 3-4k RPM (i think) in just a few seconds. hahahaha! then I immediately shifted back to D. i am not sure if I have done it correctly. hahahahaha!

12.9 is normal if you include Tagaytay traffic, plus the winding roads down to Sta. Rosa. The SLEX section of a Tagaytay trip is only 60% of the total journey so the FC isn't comparable to an NLEX-SCTEX trip where it's 100% highway.

Also, he may be driving faster than you, or at least keeping higher revs. More braking and acceleration is also a very big factor hurting FC compared to traveling at a constant speed.

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[AC_23]

12.9 is normal if you include Tagaytay traffic, plus the winding roads down to Sta. Rosa. The SLEX section of a Tagaytay trip is only 60% of the total journey so the FC isn't comparable to an NLEX-SCTEX trip where it's 100% highway.

Also, he may be driving faster than you, or at least keeping higher revs. More braking and acceleration is also a very big factor hurting FC compared to traveling at a constant speed.

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you got a point on that sir jut. i remember your 80 kph at cruise control along SCTEX resulting to a very impressive FC.

by the way, were you using S mode on the highway? is it ok to shift from D to S while the car is moving? would the transmission be affected badly? my revs suddenly burst when I shifted it to S.

[jut703]

you got a point on that sir jut. i remember your 80 kph at cruise control along SCTEX resulting to a very impressive FC.

by the way, were you using S mode on the highway? is it ok to shift from D to S while the car is moving? would the transmission be affected badly? my revs suddenly burst when I shifted it to S.

I shift from D to S all the time. It's perfectly normal for the revs to go up - that's exactly the point of S mode, to keep your revs at a higher level. 😊

Think of it as downshifting in a manual. Higher revs = more power and torque = easier overtaking at the expense of higher consumption.

There's absolutely no detrimental effect to your transmission. Modern automatics have so much built-in safety nets that it's quite hard to wreck them unless you're a really brash driver.

Another safety net which I discovered is that you can't launch the Civic 1.8 from a standstill. In other cars, you can brake launch (step on the gas and brake pedals, keep the revs at 3000-4000 rpm, then release the brake to launch at 3000-4000 rpm for that wheelspin-inducing start). In the Civic, if you try brake launching, the moment you release the brakes, the engine will just drop to 1000 rpm and launch you normally. It's actually faster to just gradually floor the pedal from a standstill.

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[Egan101]

^^^ So brake-torquing will not work on the Civics? Either in the 1.8L NA and 1.5L turbo? It must be the CVT providing some sort of safety net to preserve itself.

[AC_23]

I shift from D to S all the time. It's perfectly normal for the revs to go up - that's exactly the point of S mode, to keep your revs at a higher level. 😊

Think of it as downshifting in a manual. Higher revs = more power and torque = easier overtaking at the expense of higher consumption.

There's absolutely no detrimental effect to your transmission. Modern automatics have so much built-in safety nets that it's quite hard to wreck them unless you're a really brash driver.

Another safety net which I discovered is that you can't launch the Civic 1.8 from a standstill. In other cars, you can brake launch (step on the gas and brake pedals, keep the revs at 3000-4000 rpm, then release the brake to launch at 3000-4000 rpm for that wheelspin-inducing start). In the Civic, if you try brake launching, the moment you release the brakes, the engine will just drop to 1000 rpm and launch you normally. It's actually faster to just gradually floor the pedal from a standstill.

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got it sir jut. will try that S mode again next time when i'm on the highway. for now, i gotta stick with D and eco ON, metro manila traffic sucks! hahaha!

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Ok noted guys! Thank you *anasazi *Egan101


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[anasazi]

12.9 is normal if you include Tagaytay traffic, plus the winding roads down to Sta. Rosa. The SLEX section of a Tagaytay trip is only 60% of the total journey so the FC isn't comparable to an NLEX-SCTEX trip where it's 100% highway.

Also, he may be driving faster than you, or at least keeping higher revs. More braking and acceleration is also a very big factor hurting FC compared to traveling at a constant speed.

yes the winding roads down to Sta. Rosa made me extra cautious given na it's dark and pwedeng may animal or tao na tumawid anytime. May mga nakakasalubong din and cars in front kaya have to slow down and accelerate once clear

Weird lang is pag garahe sa bahay parang 3 or 4 bars lang na bawas sa gas gauge given na nag full tank ako sa tagaytay before grabbing some bulalo and heading home.

But my daily route to office costs me 3 to 5 bars of gas.. Pasig to Eastwood.. that's driving on D with Eco On :'(

[jut703]

^^^ So brake-torquing will not work on the Civics? Either in the 1.8L NA and 1.5L turbo? It must be the CVT providing some sort of safety net to preserve itself.

Not sure with the turbo since it has paddle shifters and therefore a "first gear". Maybe *Janemar or other RS owners can confirm if you can launch a Civic RS.

But for the 1.8, no luck. 😑 No complaints though, even with a sluggish start, 0-100 is still roughly 10 seconds. Best part is still top-end acceleration where 200 kph is no sweat even for a puny 140 hp engine.

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[AC_23]

yes the winding roads down to Sta. Rosa made me extra cautious given na it's dark and pwedeng may animal or tao na tumawid anytime. May mga nakakasalubong din and cars in front kaya have to slow down and accelerate once clear

Weird lang is pag garahe sa bahay parang 3 or 4 bars lang na bawas sa gas gauge given na nag full tank ako sa tagaytay before grabbing some bulalo and heading home.

But my daily route to office costs me 3 to 5 bars of gas.. Pasig to Eastwood.. that's driving on D with Eco On :'(

whoa! i would assume a super heavy traffic on your daily route. that 3-5 bars is already almost the same with my daily drive from QC to Makati. but mine has more distance (i guess).[emoji28]


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[Egan101]

Not sure with the turbo since it has paddle shifters and therefore a "first gear". Maybe *Janemar or other RS owners can confirm if you can launch a Civic RS.

But for the 1.8, no luck. �� No complaints though, even with a sluggish start, 0-100 is still roughly 10 seconds. Best part is still top-end acceleration where 200 kph is no sweat even for a puny 140 hp engine.

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I have not tried brake torquing my FXT partly due to fears of doing something bad to its CVT tranny. It's a bit soft off the line but once the turbo spools, it gets off in a hurry.

I tried brake torquing my Fiesta Ecoboost but I could not find the right rpm timing of peak torque and turbo spool. It is a lot easier to just floor the accelerator from a stop and let the DCT shift gears automatically. The rocker switch for manual override on the tranny lever are near to useless.

[Janemar]

Pede naman sir Jut same as this:

2016 Honda Civic RS turbo 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube

[jut703]

Pede naman sir Jut same as this:

2016 Honda Civic RS turbo 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube

Interesting, I watched their video testing the 1.8 and they were able to launch it but only at 2000 rpm vs 3000 for the RS. I'll try a 2000 rpm launch for my Civic also, might work.

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[Woof]

^^^ So brake-torquing will not work on the Civics? Either in the 1.8L NA and 1.5L turbo? It must be the CVT providing some sort of safety net to preserve itself.

I haven't tried, nor am I inclined, to brake-torquing/launching my Civic. However, it is my understanding that this is inherently not possible anymore since most new cars, including our Civics, are equipped with a brake override system (BOS) wherein stepping on the brakes will cut throttle input. I think it is a safety feature to prevent SUA-like accidents brought about by user error and/or stuck mattings. There is, however, a way to bypass the BOS on some vehicles and do a proper launch - albeit at the expense of accelerated transmission wear and tear.

And you're right, sudden launches at high rpm will score the CVT sheaves.

[jut703]

I haven't tried, nor am I inclined, to brake-torquing/launching my Civic. However, it is my understanding that this is inherently not possible anymore since most new cars, including our Civics, are equipped with a brake override system (BOS) wherein stepping on the brakes will cut throttle input. I think it is a safety feature to prevent SUA-like accidents brought about by user error and/or stuck mattings. There is, however, a way to bypass the BOS on some vehicles and do a proper launch - albeit at the expense of accelerated transmission wear and tear.

And you're right, sudden launches at high rpm will score the CVT sheaves.

Depends on the car. For example, you can launch the 6AT Mazda 3 at 3-4k rpm.

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[jut703]

21.6 km/L for my 80 kph run last night on NLEX.





Got really really sleepy though so had to speed up after the Bocaue toll gate. I have to do it in the morning if I want a full tank to full tank eco run from NLEX to the TPLEX. And lots of coffee. 😂



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[kevindd992002]

21.6 km/L for my 80 kph run last night on NLEX.





Got really really sleepy though so had to speed up after the Bocaue toll gate. I have to do it in the morning if I want a full tank to full tank eco run from NLEX to the TPLEX. And lots of coffee. [emoji23]



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Lol. I could never stay at that speed without being super sleepy.

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[dcph172]

Saw you *jut703 and the gf dropping by honda greenhills hehe was sorta tailing you along ortigas. Pogi ng civic! Hehe ok pati na din ung sakay hehe i see you got the small lip you wanted. Ganda!


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