2017 Honda CR-V Turbo and 7seats

[sientobente]

Any idea on the wading depth of the CRV? Even if it's an unofficial stat since Honda won't give one.

One of the reasons, why I got a 4th gen CRV is my experience with Honda with flooding. In 2009, we were badly hit by Ondoy and it didn't spare any of our cars. A Subaru Forester, Mitsubishi Outlander, Toyota Rav4, Camry, Vios, Honda Civic EK, ES and a 2nd-gen CRV. All our Hondas survived even the EK despite being completely submerged past the roof. Pinatuyo lang namin, change oil for a couple of times, and it was back in business. All the other cars, deadball, kinelangan palitan yung computer box and nakatenga sa casa for more than 6 months. That experience, gave me confidence in getting a Honda. In fact, we still own that 2nd-gen CRV, and it is running strong, without any major parts being replaced.

[dr. d]

well, we have our reasons why we remain loyal to certain brands.

[mda]

One of the reasons, why I got a 4th gen CRV is my experience with Honda with flooding. In 2009, we were badly hit by Ondoy and it didn't spare any of our cars. A Subaru Forester, Mitsubishi Outlander, Toyota Rav4, Camry, Vios, Honda Civic EK, ES and a 2nd-gen CRV. All our Hondas survived even the EK despite being completely submerged past the roof. Pinatuyo lang namin, change oil for a couple of times, and it was back in business. All the other cars, deadball, kinelangan palitan yung computer box and nakatenga sa casa for more than 6 months. That experience, gave me confidence in getting a Honda. In fact, we still own that 2nd-gen CRV, and it is running strong, without any major parts being replaced.

Not sure why but you seem to be lucky.

I know a lot of people with flooded Civic FDs and their cars also spent months sa casa...

[theblob]

They won't. No crossover manufacturer (except maybe Subaru) gives wading depth.

This is because of electronics, engine ancilliaries and transmission, differential and engine breather tubes that are not sealed against the elements.

For a crossover, or even pick-up trucks, you can wade in water DEEPER than the rated wading depth... which is always lower than the air intake height, but the manufacturer cannot guarantee that you will have no problems afterwards. YMMV.

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That said, while the airbox itself is mounted high up, the CR-V's snorkel is mounted under the airbox pointing towards the bumper. With this design, the engine SHOULD choke and stall before water is ingested, but if you try to plow through floodwater higher than the intake tube, you can ram enough water into it to destroy the engine.

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Same problem with any car-based crossover. Even the Subaru. Not made to traverse deep water, don't even try. Pick-ups and Pick-up based passenger vehicles often have air cleaners that draw air from fender pockets, which are somewhat safe, and allow you to install aftermarket snorkels.

(Of course, you can install a snorkel on a Subaru, but it's often a DIY hack-job)

Thanks. Sana kahit knee-deep man lang kaya. Haha.

[niky]

Thanks. Sana kahit knee-deep man lang kaya. Haha.

IMHO, unless you're in a pick-up, I would not risk knee-deep water.

Always, always better safe than sorry. When in dobut, pull out. Etcetera.

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This is coming from someone who's experienced hydrolocking firsthand. Very, very expensive mistake.

[Wh1stl3r]

Yes current gen! I know right, I thought hyundai got it right already especially now that their cars look really nice as compared to before but turns out, its only the appearance that was good, and their diesel engines of course.


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Tsk. Looks like they're still not a good long term choice.

[theblob]

IMHO, unless you're in a pick-up, I would not risk knee-deep water.

Always, always better safe than sorry. When in dobut, pull out. Etcetera.

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This is coming from someone who's experienced hydrolocking firsthand. Very, very expensive mistake.

My idiot brother drove our Montero Sport (2010) through water levels that almost reached the hood. I think that's above knee-deep if I'm not mistaken. Hindi naman tumirik pero the car wasn't the same since then. Kung ano anong sakit na lumabas.

[MR_BIG18]

My idiot brother drove our Montero Sport (2010) through water levels that almost reached the hood. I think that's above knee-deep if I'm not mistaken. Hindi naman tumirik pero the car wasn't the same since then. Kung ano anong sakit na lumabas.

nakahigop ng water yung intake?

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[theblob]

nakahigop ng water yung intake?

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I'm not sure... Not really an expert when it comes to cars. Pero parang may kumakalog na sound from the chassis mula noon. Hindi mahanap ng mechanic yung problem or pinanggagalingan ng sound.

[dr. d]

My idiot brother drove our Montero Sport (2010) through water levels that almost reached the hood. I think that's above knee-deep if I'm not mistaken. Hindi naman tumirik pero the car wasn't the same since then. Kung ano anong sakit na lumabas.

like, what sakits, po?

[StockEngine]

IMHO, unless you're in a pick-up, I would not risk knee-deep water.

Always, always better safe than sorry. When in dobut, pull out. Etcetera.

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This is coming from someone who's experienced hydrolocking firsthand. Very, very expensive mistake.

ano po yun na hydrolock na vehicle?

[dr. d]

IMHO, unless you're in a pick-up, I would not risk knee-deep water.

Always, always better safe than sorry. When in dobut, pull out. Etcetera.

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This is coming from someone who's experienced hydrolocking firsthand. Very, very expensive mistake.

if one has no choice, but to go thru.
is it a "good move" to turn off the engine and have the vehicle pushed across the high water, instead?

[niky]

ano po yun na hydrolock na vehicle?

When water goes in the intake and into the cylinder, the piston can not compress the water. Water, unlike air, is incompressible... well... *almost* incompressible... you can compress water, but it takes thousands of pounds per square inch to compress it *slightly*. Google says the pressure at the deepest part of the ocean is 15,000 psi, and the water there is compressed by less than 5%

The inside of your engine only sees about 190-220 psi (well, in engines I know of) while squeezing air to 1/10th its original volume (10:1 compression ratio)

When water enters the engine, the moment your piston starts travelling up and the intake valves close, it is trying to squeeze water that requires thousands of psi to compress even the tiniest bit. Guess which gives way first?

if one has no choice, but to go thru.
is it a "good move" to turn off the engine and have the vehicle pushed across the high water, instead?

It's never a good move to let it sit in water at all. If I had a vehicle surrounded by water I knew it could never successfully ford, I'd disconnect the battery, turn the ignition a few times to remove any remaining current in the system... pull the ECU if I possibly could... and run.

If it's a short distance, you could push it across and suffer very minimal damage, I guess... but it's no fun to try to wrestle a two ton brick that's floating on the water... and less fun when it fills up with water and becomes infinitely harder to push.

[kagalingan]

wala pa ako nakikita sa kalsada.....

hinahype lang talaga ito.....but wala talaga nagkakagusto...

[yecherchong]

wala pa ako nakikita sa kalsada.....

hinahype lang talaga ito.....but wala talaga nagkakagusto...

I saw bout 2 so far since it was announced. They did say orders are arriving this September. We should see more in this t he coming weeks.


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[crosswind]

Actually mahaba naka pila sa crv. It's like the civic sa sabi ng sales 2 to 3mos waiting time

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[kevindd992002]

Hassle talaga mga trolls sa mga threads

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[dr. d]

[QUOTE=niky;



It's never a good move to let it sit in water at all. If I had a vehicle surrounded by water I knew it could never successfully ford, I'd disconnect the battery, turn the ignition a few times to remove any remaining current in the system... pull the ECU if I possibly could... and run.

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i never thought of this... pulling out the ecu and leaving the rest of the car behind!
heh heh.

[mda]

It's never a good move to let it sit in water at all. If I had a vehicle surrounded by water I knew it could never successfully ford, I'd disconnect the battery, turn the ignition a few times to remove any remaining current in the system... pull the ECU if I possibly could... and run.

If it's a short distance, you could push it across and suffer very minimal damage, I guess... but it's no fun to try to wrestle a two ton brick that's floating on the water... and less fun when it fills up with water and becomes infinitely harder to push.

Sir Niky, just to further build on this...

And say you will need to run and have done all of the above, I suppose afterwards, it should be towed straight to the service center to have it checked?

[kinto92]

http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/f...tition-fbfirst

Si sir niky :-)