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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    am i forcing? am i ridiculing?..i said most people do not agree to gay marriages or that the phils is not ready for gay unions because of their beliefs..and that is, god hates gay, it's the work of the devil and it's a curse....
    this line has been posted quite a number of times. bro/sis city,are you stating this as a fact or as your assumption?

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    #122
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    a lot of people are disgusted with the movie Alexander inspite his conquests.

    although we cant deny the fact that most powerful men in our history are homo***uals or are rumored to be homo***uals, but that's only bec. they have nothing to lose. they dont have families, women and children. or at times, they pretend to have one for show.


    so the next time you ask yourselves why women and children are being massacred, you might wanna think of what's the personality of the superior officer/criminal & his immediate aid who ordered and who executed it. most real men with families won't agree to it bec. of karma. same goes with politicians who are indifferent to kids and mothers and suffering families.

    that's why the Catholic church is against homo***uality. evil can definitely use men with that profile (nothing to lose, nothing to care for, no family).
    sorry, but i have to call BS on this one. no offense

    most powerful men in history are or have been rumored to be homo***ual? homo***uality has a relationship to mass murder? are you kidding me? :bwahaha:

    let's see some facts to back up those assertions. this should be good - i don't remember seeing such ridiculous statements on any internet message board ever.

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    #123
    god hates gay, it's the work of the devil and it's a curse....
    i'll read and search my bible where does Yahweh said that He hates gays. imo only, He forbids the act of homo***uality not the individuality itself. actually Yahweh loves all the sinner including gays and lesbians.

    i'll post my find anyways as this will be an important topic that need to be tackled.

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    #124
    nope.
    the bible says so.
    however, if their reason
    is to protect their partner, i.e.,
    inheritance/custody issues,
    a legal contract might be more
    appropriate.

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    #125
    didnt make it up bro *m54, I just read it from ancient church stands/opinions, people's/men of the faith opinions and the like ... back in the creationism vs. evolution thread, I mentioned something about if we like to seek answers to our questions go ancient - read history in a different point of view. and I also ran into this particular topic unintentionally. I could go on, particularly on its significance on modern times but it's off-topic already.

    I brought this up to give light to *city's queries.

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    #126
    Quote Originally Posted by zildjian
    i'll read and search my bible where does Yahweh said that He hates gays. imo only, He forbids the act of homo***uality not the individuality itself. actually Yahweh loves all the sinner including gays and lesbians.

    i'll post my find anyways as this will be an important topic that need to be tackled.
    you might wanna read Sodom and Gomorrah.

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    #127
    A BIG "NO"-tanngap nga natin sa lipunan ang pagiging ganoon nila pati ba namn kasal eh tatangagpin pa,para atang kalabisan na at magiging immoral na nang husto,kung mga parehong lesbian nga eh ang hirap tanngapin,mga kapwa lalaki pa!

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    #128
    Re homo***uality leads to murderers.

    I would hope it's not one of those self serving studies.



    The truth takes no sides.

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    #129
    Quote Originally Posted by OTO

    Lime & Alba live an ocean away and no woman's worth taking a trans-pacific flight over.


    You should see them in person it would make your knees go weak.

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    #130
    Quote Originally Posted by zildjian
    i'll read and search my bible where does Yahweh said that He hates gays. imo only, He forbids the act of homo***uality not the individuality itself. actually Yahweh loves all the sinner including gays and lesbians.

    i'll post my find anyways as this will be an important topic that need to be tackled.
    yes... good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    you might wanna read Sodom and Gomorrah.
    in that case, you might want to read the New Testament. did Jesus say... love everyone except gays and lesbians?

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    #131
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    didnt make it up bro *m54, I just read it from ancient church stands/opinions, people's/men of the faith opinions and the like ... back in the creationism vs. evolution thread, I mentioned something about if we like to seek answers to our questions go ancient - read history in a different point of view. and I also ran into this particular topic unintentionally. I could go on, particularly on its significance on modern times but it's off-topic already.

    I brought this up to give light to *city's queries.
    ah ok. the way i read it i thought these were your own opinions. sorry for misunderstanding. let me revise my statement.

    those ancient church people and 'men of the faith' you just quoted are full of ****. as a member of the Catholic faith, i'm happy that the leaders of my Church don't think that way anymore (at least publicly, hehe)

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    #132
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    yes... good point.



    in that case, you might want to read the New Testament. did Jesus say... love everyone except gays and lesbians?
    tama ito pero ang tamang katuruan ay wag kang magalit sa tao, magalit ka sa ginawa or ginagawa nila.

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    #133
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    yes... good point.



    in that case, you might want to read the New Testament. did Jesus say... love everyone except gays and lesbians?


    i'm glad you mentioned this sir *mazdamazda. for a minute their I got confused with this loving everyone ideal of Jesus Christ.

    but we are talking about gay marriages -> a union. The New Testament is all about union, God being re-united with his people thru Christ, The union of the Holy Trinity, the resurrection of Christ, the body and blood of christ, the re-affirming of God's ideal -> union of man and woman . The Vatican also views *** as a sacred union to pro-create or to give life (although we hetero***uals do abuse it hehehe).

    homo***uals argue that there is no mention of homo***uality in the bible or particularly the NT. hence, they claim that they are safe. or Yaweh in the New Testament is a forgiving and a loving God, he compromises even to the homo***ual ideal.

    well, they can twist the truth all they want (like P.R. officers/spin doctors/media mongerers of modern times), they can even pit O.T. and N.T against each other. they can even take priesthood as a career and infiltrate Vatican. they may even fast forward darwin's evolution theory to one ending - man & woman will evolve into homo***uals (hence no more need for man or woman) and will become a***uals beings.


    but still this homo***uality idea contradicts God's plan & creation: man & woman - procreate.

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    #134
    hindi ako boto regarding that matter, mahirap yun pag natuloy, e kanino gagamitin surname?

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    #135
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    homo***uals argue that there is no mention of homo***uality in the bible or particularly the NT. hence, they claim that they are safe. or Yaweh in the New Testament is a forgiving and a loving God, he compromises even to the homo***ual ideal.
    binaggit ang homo***uality sa TORAH nang lipulin ng mga angel an pinadala ng Panginoon ang Sodom at Gomorah.

    Dyan nga nanggaling ang ingles na salitang Sodomy eh

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    #136
    More. more.. more...


    Sige away pa! este discussion pala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    did i say it was you? if you think i was referring to you, then that is your own business. unless i specifically attacked you with name calling, then i suggest you refrain from threatening me.
    Please refrain from name calling. And if you wanna start name calling don;t do it indirectly. If you wanna call somebody a troll....say it straight to his face. It would give us great deal of clarity if you will say to whom do you direct your name calling.

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    #138
    i wouldn't do it myself, but it's not for me to question people's choices and certainly would not take away their rights.

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    #140
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    Please refrain from name calling. And if you wanna start name calling don;t do it indirectly. If you wanna call somebody a troll....say it straight to his face. It would give us great deal of clarity if you will say to whom do you direct your name calling.
    again, i couldnt care less if you assume you are the troll. and unless i directly accuse you of being a troll (which is my business if i want to or not), your 'threat' to me in your post is the only personal attack i see around here.

    i speak my mind in my posts, and if your guilty conscience ASSUMES you are the one im referring to, then that is your problem.

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