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    #161
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
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    Your God's plan. But not everyone is a Christian, thus you can't impose your will on society. Just like Islamists trying to impose Shia law on entire countries is ethically unjust.

    The moral strictures in law date from a time when laws were created by heavily religious political leaders. That's why sodomy is still a crime in some parts of the US (ridiculous... it's their butts, they can do whatever they like with them). These moral strictures still have some merit in areas like prostitution (wherein many ***-workers are abused) and adultery (because infidelity on the part of the husband could lead to an abandonment of wife and children), but the artificial dismissal of homo***uality isn't fair to those who choose it.

    For me, the only sin is in causing others harm or hurt. Homo***uality does neither. And if allowing legalistic union helps to provide financial and social security for the partners and any dependents, then I'm all for it.

    Coming from a broken home, I can tell you that this is the part that matters most. Like I've said, gay couples I've known all have straight children, and the gay people I know are the children of straight couples. There's no transmission of any gay virus, so as long as they are compassionate and caring for them, they should have chance, under the law to become a supportive family unit.

    At least somebody have their head on right.

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    #162
    Quote Originally Posted by qman
    pede rin po yan pero kung mahal mo sa buhay ang gumawa ng mali sa pananaw mo ay malamang i rebuke mo sya dibaga?

    As long as what they are doing does not hurt anyone no big deal. Now if they are criminals What would jesus do? Hmmmmm

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    again, i couldnt care less if you assume you are the troll. and unless i directly accuse you of being a troll (which is my business if i want to or not), your 'threat' to me in your post is the only personal attack i see around here.

    i speak my mind in my posts, and if your guilty conscience ASSUMES you are the one im referring to, then that is your problem.

    have it your way dude.

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    #164
    Wala akong pakialam sa kanila basta ba wag mag kalat ng AIDS eh.

    And regarding the question if gay marriages should be allowed. Put yourself in a catholic priests shoes.. Will they allow it? Coz if they won't then wala tayong pinaguusapan dito,

    Now if the church won't allow it, then would the government condone it? yeah right .. as if babanggain yun simbahan. Any politician who would do that would be committing political suicide.

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    #165
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    you might wanna read Sodom and Gomorrah.
    it only shows the destruction of sodom and gomorah because of all sorts of act of evil in the land. it does not specifically tell that God hates the homo***ual. God did said

    Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute among the daughters of Israel, nor shall there be a homo***ual among the sons of Israel.

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    #166
    Quote Originally Posted by zildjian
    it only shows the destruction of sodom and gomorah because of all sorts of act of evil in the land. it does not specifically tell that God hates the homo***ual. God did said

    Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute among the daughters of Israel, nor shall there be a homo***ual among the sons of Israel.
    And to add fuel to that fire... we're technically not sons of Israel... because we aren't Jewish. :lol:

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #167
    My faith is better because it's imported bubble has been blown.



    *adds a few more ltrs* breaks open the popcorn anticipating on whats to come........

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by GasJunkie
    My faith is better because it's imported bubble has been blown.



    *adds a few more ltrs* breaks open the popcorn anticipating on whats to come........

    i didn't get it.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by norman0410
    Wala akong pakialam sa kanila basta ba wag mag kalat ng AIDS eh.
    Sorry to burst your bubble dude but AIDs didn't come from gays... another uninformed individual.

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    #170
    Quote Originally Posted by city
    i didn't get it.

    It was a supporting statement to niky's post(w/out permission sorry), and a dig to our country's love for all things(insert any item here) not our own.

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    #171
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    And to add fuel to that fire... we're technically not sons of Israel... because we aren't Jewish. :lol:

    lol...

    technically correct sir niky but here's something to consider. it's ot but for sake of discussion.

    during that old testament (should have written ot) times only the sons of Israel were considered God's people because they were the only people during that time who knows and worships Yahweh. the rest of the nations (nations also means the gentile world) doesn't know the true God (YaHWeH is His name) and worships other gods. so naturally, God always gives His commandments to His people which are the Israelites at that time. He won't be giving His commandments to the nations since the nations are not His people and the nations don't recognize Him.

    furthermore, there wasn't a jewish at that time but one will argue that they are the tribes of judah which is correct. all 13 tribes (13 because there were two from joseph, the ephraimites and the mannassites) are all israelites but only the tribes of judah were jewish later on joined by the benjamites (i might be wrong) and I would say levites too. there might be other tribes that joined judah that formed the jewish people.

    sensya na medyo ot talaga but it's indeed interesting and good to know. i'm fascinated with their history and subjects like this are of great interest at least for me.

    let's keep the discussion going wala lang away at debate.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by GasJunkie
    It was a supporting statement to niky's post(w/out permission sorry), and a dig to our country's love for all things(insert any item here) not our own.
    got it. thanks.

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    #173
    to I LUV DETAILING - I didn't say that AIDS came from GAYS.. What I meant was that these people contribute to its spread. And before resorting to labelling someone as uninformed, maybe you should be the one taking a look in the mirror- that is if you can pause for a minute and drop your curlers and makeup.

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/msm.htm

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by norman0410
    Wala akong pakialam sa kanila basta ba wag mag kalat ng AIDS eh.
    Take a look a post and you'll see what I mean. Generalizing is a big nono, maybe you should clarify your posts first getting ansty bro. Your ***uality has nothing do with the spread of a disease.

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    #175
    As compared to the size of the north american population ratio wise that's pretty low,did not mean to take away the gravity of the situation.


    Why they spread it among themselves instead of safe *** they have stupid ***......

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    #176
    easy lang mga tsikoteers.....

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    #177
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Sorry to burst your bubble dude but AIDs didn't come from gays... another uninformed individual.
    so where did it come from? Africa? a very convenient place to blame AIDS like the Ebola and other deadly viruses. if you ask me, that's just one of the cover up published by some influential homo***uals.

    but we cant deny the fact that the very first people diagnosed with AIDS were all gay men. it's all documented naman around the net. The reason why it spread to hetero***uals: the Red Cross. it seems that there are gay donors on the blood bank, thereby infecting patients: men, women, children, newly-born alike.

    yes it's true that some people in the Catholic faith view AIDS as the disease of the gay people. maybe it is. why? bec. up to now there is still no cure for it, inspite all efforts by the scientific community. it's science vs. wrath of God, as others would say. but the answer is really simple: as long as gay men continue their practice of homo***ual/unnatural ***, there are consequences, and AIDS is one of 'em. our bodies are not designed for such acts.

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    #178
    so pano nga nag start ang aids sa gay!?

    you mean..if i have *** now with a "clean" guy...we will both have aids after?

    malamang sa hayop nagmula ang aids...and most probably...not through ***. but through fluid exchange.

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    #179
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSter
    so pano nga nag start ang aids sa gay!?

    you mean..if i have *** now with a "clean" guy...we will both have aids after?

    malamang sa hayop nagmula ang aids...and most probably...not through ***. but through fluid exchange.

    the history of AIDS is like the history of man hehehe. scientists failed to tracked down the host. it was already close to epidemic proportions when they discovered it. too late ... and just like the history of man, it also came from Africa as they say

    you mean..if i have *** now with a "clean" guy...we will both have aids after?
    not really. it's some sort of mutation. some are carriers, some are susceptible to the disease. maybe the prolifiration of AIDS has something to do with Y chromosome -> Only men have a Y chromosome and so the Y is only passed from father to son. what happens if you cross Y & Y, what're the consequences, repercussions?
    Last edited by oldblue; February 8th, 2006 at 01:42 AM.

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    #180
    hoy! OT na kayo, you're not even in the same zip code anymore.

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