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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by city
    palagay ko ginawa ng simbahan yun base rin sa salita ng dyos...i just don't remember the verse and chapter and it says something like when god unites two people let no man put asunder..something like that. And the church bases it's acts on what the book says..."whatever you bind on earth shall also be bounded in heaven"....so I guess the church's acts are bible based..based from what is claimed to be the word of god....and since we are a catholic nation we follow the church and do not allow divorce. But, our government is doing otherwise because we believe in the separation of the church and state. Kaya nasbi kong double standard.
    Yap, and you will amazed by the number of doctrines the Catholic Church invented.

    Shucks! dami ngang pari dyan na chickboy, badingerz, paborito ang alak at sigarilyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter
    before same *** marriages issue can be tackled, I think the divorse issue has to be tackled first.
    I think this is better ayusin muna yung may mga problema kesa yung masasayang tao... saka nila ikasal yang same *** na yan..


    Simbahan lang naman ang laging kontra pag dating sa bagay na yan..

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    Dont mind, dont care...

    While I find most of them annoying (purely with the way they talk and carry themselves), they've done nothing wrong by being gay...

    Watch nyo yung old movie na BirdCage hehe.

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    M54 Powered: Agree with you. The Philippines is not ready for this...

    city: You might have meant kids, instead of siblings...

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT
    M54 Powered: Agree with you. The Philippines is not ready for this...

    city: You might have meant kids, instead of siblings...

    yes CVT...bobo ko no..thanks for correcting.

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    eewww... the imagery is getting worse by the minute...

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    eewww... the imagery is getting worse by the minute...
    hahaha

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    Legally, there should be no reason to prohibit gay marriages. Not all married couples have kids or want to have kids, but not all gay couples are childless.

    There are at least two or three homo***ual couples in my family. It's a disappointment to my dear departed Lolo, but there it is. And of all the kids who grew up in those families (fathers were lost to divorce or separation long before the start of the relationship), not one of them is gay.

    Thus, It is false to assume that gay people adopting or caring for kids will cause gayness to spread.

    Before anyone brings up the perversion issue... I know there are some sickos out there, but a lot of them are hetero***ual. I think it's far more likely for a hetero***ual father to abuse his daughters than for a homo***ual father to abuse his kids. And, let's face it, there are a lot of homo***ual dads out there... just ask me. :D (just kidding!) It's a lack of testosterone that makes them less aggressive.

    Under the church, no, they can't be, unless there's a church that condones homo***uality... but under the law, what right has anyone to stop them?

    Gay couples support each other both emotionally and economically... yun nga, the example of the one that grew old together, what rights does the partner have when the other one dies? Will the family that didn't support the relationship or that shunned the partners get everything? It's a sore point in inheritance law (we're having a big fight over this) and it should be fixed.

    I agree with ghosthunter that laws regarding divorce and separation should be fixed... but this is to ensure the continued support of the wife if the husband leaves. I know a lot of husbands who, in the absence of any legal impediment, merely abandon their wives and children to their fate. But then, this has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

    Agreed, the Philippines is not ready. But I'm personally not against it. To deny other people happiness because of my faith or personal preference is a sin. Ika nga... there's only one commandment... "Do unto others..."

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

  9. Join Date
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    Yes

    IMO, marriage would just legalize their current situation. Having rights and giving rights for their partners (financially, medically, etc). Giving them this privilege will not change them for who they are, but to protect them. Some of these people have been successful in life. For me, marriage is not the act of "multiplying" it's an act of legalizing that bond of love.

    It's their right as well...This topic is like divorse. Religion and government should also be apart.

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    city: I agree with you 100%++. Some people marry for companionship. 'Trivial' to most of us, but it means a lot to them! Profound!
    Again, for young people who get married, pro-creation maybe first and foremost. But when the kids are long gone and charting their own lives, marriage transcends toward a deeper meaning, which is companionship...

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    the philippines is not ready because most of us are in the belief that being gay is a curse.... and that god condemns gays...gays are works of the devil....man! talk about lack of knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by city
    the philippines is not ready because most of us are in the belief that being gay is a curse.... and that god condemns gays...gays are works of the devil....man! talk about lack of knowledge.
    Seems to me that you've got a profound hatred against Christianity... Reminds me of Voltaire, who once wanted to erase Christianity from the face of the earth... He wasn't successful, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by city
    the philippines is not ready because most of us are in the belief that being gay is a curse.... and that god condemns gays...gays are works of the devil....man! talk about lack of knowledge.
    lack of knowledge?

    why don't you just respect the opinion of others in the first place?

    stop flaming other people for their beliefs...

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    The wisest man who ever lived had this to say: "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge."

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    lack of knowledge?

    why don't you just respect the opinion of others in the first place?

    stop flaming other people for their beliefs...
    Is telling the truth disrespectful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by city
    Is telling the truth disrespectful?
    what truth? that believing what the word of God says constitutes "lack of knowledge?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by city
    Is telling the truth disrespectful?
    what maybe true to you might not be for some people.

    and who are we to tell others that we know the absolute truth?

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    what maybe true to you might not be for some people.

    and who are we to tell others that we know the absolute truth?

    if what i said is false then by all means let's annihilate these fags and clean our society of this curse... shouldn't we be getting our nation rid of the works of the devil like gambling, child prostitution, white slavery, etc...but why aren't we doing it in the case of gays? ....because we know that it isn't true. it isn't true that god hates gays...it isn't true that it's the work of the devil and it was never a curse.... now for me..people who still believes this idea seriously has a problem of unwillingness to accept change and this is what's dictating our government or society not to entertain gay marriages and our country happens to be influenced by religion even if we have separation of church and state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by city
    the philippines is not ready because most of us are in the belief that being gay is a curse.... and that god condemns gays...gays are works of the devil....man! talk about lack of knowledge.

    Religion has nothing to do with ones tolerance or even iq, blanket accusation would just demean an otherwise insightful point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GasJunkie
    Religion has nothing to do with ones tolerance or even iq, blanket accusation would just demean an otherwise insightful point.
    i beg to disagree on some point, sir... religion CAN have something to do with one's tolerance, but definitely not one's IQ

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