Should gay marriages be allowed in our country?

[konde]

psst.stop na the troll thang.

game game..away..este..discuss na ulit.

OT:ano yong troll thing? share nyo naman sakin!

[qman]

hell no

Pero kung magkakaroon ng tv show na tulad na tulad ke jerry springer pede na rin

[CoDer]

Kung legal union ang gusto nila, hala sige.

Pero sa Catholic Church????

Teka, diba ang daming badingerz na Pari. Why not coconut! :charing:

[city]

so now you resort to putting words into other's mouths.

as far as I know, you were the only one here who mentioned that God hates gays, that gays are the work of the devil, that homo***uality is a curse, etc.

stop generalizing about people that doesn't have the same point of view as you.

Instead of telling me what to say, tell us,why our country is not ready for gay marriages....you seem to have an idea why. we'd appreciate you sharing it.

[city]

whats the connection of not agreeing in gay marriages to everything thats wrong in this world? Your veering of the topic bud. You force can't someone who doesn't to believe in something he/she doesn't... and ridicule them if they don't agree with ya. all you can do is explain and respect them whether they accept it or not.

am i forcing? am i ridiculing?..i said most people do not agree to gay marriages or that the phils is not ready for gay unions because of their beliefs..and that is, god hates gay, it's the work of the devil and it's a curse....and to me this is lack of knowledge....is this forcing to you?..is this ridiculing to you?..

If I say ..stop believing..then this is forcing...if i say your belief is a ****ing belief of an insane person..then this is ridiculing.

BB, dont; start name calling..you would regret it if you'll push it.

Is the word "lack of knowledge" so painful you guys resort to this?

and for christ sake stop pretending.....the reactions i get from you guys is a product of guilt.

[city]

Allowed and divorce city. Gawa-gawa lang ng simbahan yan, Pati na ang hindi pag aasawa ng Pari eh gawa-gawa lang din nila.

Here's verse from the Bible:

Mattew 5:31-32

31 “It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce. 32 But I say to you, any man who divorces his wife, except for ***ual immorality, causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”

Si Jesus Christ mismo ang nagsabi nyan.

palagay ko ginawa ng simbahan yun base rin sa salita ng dyos...i just don't remember the verse and chapter and it says something like when god unites two people let no man put asunder..something like that. And the church bases it's acts on what the book says..."whatever you bind on earth shall also be bounded in heaven"....so I guess the church's acts are bible based..based from what is claimed to be the word of god....and since we are a catholic nation we follow the church and do not allow divorce. But, our government is doing otherwise because we believe in the separation of the church and state. Kaya nasbi kong double standard.

[city]

No. This is my belief (anyone can disagree with me, that's fine), a belief that is based on God's word.

Romans 2

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to ***ual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

rj_tim,

can you tell us how a person becomes gay? Is is freewill, is it genetics?, is it brain malfunction?, is it a birth defect?, or is it a curse from god or the work of the devil?

I would love to know if you took time studying how a person becomes gay or a homo***ual.

[jim]

Sa pananaw ko bilang tao nagtataka talaga ako kung bakit kelangan magpakasal ang parehong babae or parehong lalaki. Para bang ang tao di na malaman kung ano ang gusto. Lahat ay natutuliro, pati damdami'y umaalab, ang puso'y lumiliyab, di maintindihan kung bakit nagkakagusto sa kapwa lalaki or kapwa babae. Ang pagkatao ay nalilito. Personalidad di malaman kung totoo. Ano ba talaga ang gusto natin??? Bakit ba natin kelangan baguhin kung ano na ang ibinigay sa atin??? Siguro'y likas na matigas ang ulo ng tao. tsk tsk tsk sana malayo pa ang katapusan ng mundo, dahil pag nagkataon, doon natin malalaman kung tama pa ba ang mga pinag-gagawa natin. PEACE!!!

[OTO]

but wouldn't it suck if Adriana Lima and Jessica Alba went gay and married each other...?

So long as they sell or leak their *** videos to the public then I have no problem.

Lime & Alba live an ocean away and no woman's worth taking a trans-pacific flight over.

[OTO]

From a legal point of view, it might be worthwhile to recognize the partnership, for succession, inheritance, conjugal property, etc. So yes, in that respect.

But from a Catholic point of view, no. So I guess they won't be married in a Catholic church.

I think most homos wouldnt mind not having the blessing of the Roman Catholic Church. They could always go protestant or born again as they're a more flexible when it comes to these things. That's what most disgrunted former Roman Catholics do anyways.

[BlueBimmer]

BB, dont; start name calling..you would regret it if you'll push it.

did i say it was you? if you think i was referring to you, then that is your own business. unless i specifically attacked you with name calling, then i suggest you refrain from threatening me.

[CoDer]

palagay ko ginawa ng simbahan yun base rin sa salita ng dyos...i just don't remember the verse and chapter and it says something like when god unites two people let no man put asunder..something like that. And the church bases it's acts on what the book says..."whatever you bind on earth shall also be bounded in heaven"....so I guess the church's acts are bible based..based from what is claimed to be the word of god....and since we are a catholic nation we follow the church and do not allow divorce. But, our government is doing otherwise because we believe in the separation of the church and state. Kaya nasbi kong double standard.

Yap, and you will amazed by the number of doctrines the Catholic Church invented.

Shucks! dami ngang pari dyan na chickboy, badingerz, paborito ang alak at sigarilyo.

[rj_tim]

Na tumbok mo rj_tim. Pero Romans 1:26-32 yan diba?

ay oo coder Romans 1 pala my bad

[ILuvDetailing]

am i forcing? am i ridiculing?..i said most people do not agree to gay marriages or that the phils is not ready for gay unions because of their beliefs..and that is, god hates gay, it's the work of the devil and it's a curse....and to me this is lack of knowledge....is this forcing to you?..is this ridiculing to you?..

If I say ..stop believing..then this is forcing...if i say your belief is a ****ing belief of an insane person..then this is ridiculing.

BB, dont; start name calling..you would regret it if you'll push it.

Is the word "lack of knowledge" so painful you guys resort to this?

and for christ sake stop pretending.....the reactions i get from you guys is a product of guilt.

Yes, for pete's sake look at your posts, who said that gays are evil, or god hates gays it all came from you. Like what mazdamazda said don't put words in our mouths. Don't play minds games with us dude obvious naman.

[ILuvDetailing]

can you tell us how a person becomes gay? Is is freewill, is it genetics?, is it brain malfunction?, is it a birth defect?, or is it a curse from god or the work of the devil?

Like what I said don't veer of the topic bud, this thread is about gay marriage not what causes homo***uality, start a new thread for that

[ILuvDetailing]

Instead of telling me what to say, tell us,why our country is not ready for gay marriages....you seem to have an idea why. we'd appreciate you sharing it.

I believe we already said our peace, now its your turn.

[rj_tim]

I think most homos wouldnt mind not having the blessing of the Roman Catholic Church. They could always go protestant or born again as they're a more flexible when it comes to these things. That's what most disgrunted former Roman Catholics do anyways.

i may have to disagree with this.. most in the conservative Protestant and born-again circles hold to the teachings of the Bible. so when the Bible specifically speaks against a certain issue, there's no way that these Christians are gonna compromise their faith. my two cents.

[rj_tim]

Like what I said don't veer of the topic bud, this thread is about gay marriage not what causes homo***uality, start a new thread for that

Bullseye!

[rj_tim]

rj_tim,

can you tell us how a person becomes gay? Is is freewill, is it genetics?, is it brain malfunction?, is it a birth defect?, or is it a curse from god or the work of the devil?

I would love to know if you took time studying how a person becomes gay or a homo***ual.

You tell us. You act like you seem to know all the answers. Lack of knowledge, right?

[oldblue]

a lot of people are disgusted with the movie Alexander inspite his conquests.

although we cant deny the fact that most powerful men in our history are homo***uals or are rumored to be homo***uals, but that's only bec. they have nothing to lose. they dont have families, women and children. or at times, they pretend to have one for show.


so the next time you ask yourselves why women and children are being massacred, you might wanna think of what's the personality of the superior officer/criminal & his immediate aid who ordered and who executed it. most real men with families won't agree to it bec. of karma. same goes with politicians who are indifferent to kids and mothers and suffering families.

that's why the Catholic church is against homo***uality. evil can definitely use men with that profile (nothing to lose, nothing to care for, no family).