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    #381
    Just did my oil change this afternoon using the fleetguard filter and mobil 1 fully synthetic. I've been doing extended drains(10K or 1 year) but was using VIC filters. The car next to me on the lifter was also having an oil change, the owner was starting the car after the oil change when suddenly there was oil gushing out from underneath, the mechanics and the supervisor were all shouting to switch off the car. They unscrewed the filter and I saw it was a bosch filter, maybe he forgot to tighten it or the replacement bosch filter they chose was the same in size but different in thread size(the car was American, a Chevy Spark), the mechanic was dumbfounded that it happened, he was measuring the old filter's diameter with the new one, just goes to show that cross referencing is still the best way to find your filter not just by the diameter of the filter.

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    #382
    Quote Originally Posted by BKR5 View Post
    Just did my oil change this afternoon using the fleetguard filter and mobil 1 fully synthetic. I've been doing extended drains(10K or 1 year) but was using VIC filters. The car next to me on the lifter was also having an oil change, the owner was starting the car after the oil change when suddenly there was oil gushing out from underneath, the mechanics and the supervisor were all shouting to switch off the car. They unscrewed the filter and I saw it was a bosch filter, maybe he forgot to tighten it or the replacement bosch filter they chose was the same in size but different in thread size(the car was American, a Chevy Spark), the mechanic was dumbfounded that it happened, he was measuring the old filter's diameter with the new one, just goes to show that cross referencing is still the best way to find your filter not just by the diameter of the filter.

    Dumfounded sound more like they were just dumb, I would find a different shop if they are not smart enough to know you can't screw a 3/4 16" thread oil filter to a GM's M18 x 1.5 thread and think it will still work even though the filter is the same physical size. Yeah it will screw on but heck no it will not seal.

    That's why I always bring my own stuff when doing anything, don't relay that all mechanics or properly trained or even know what they are doing. Something like that should never happen with common sense. I mean come really

    * sirkosero

    The Baldwin BT223 is the best option for filters for Toyotas, it's 98% efficient * 12 microns vs Toyota's OEM's 88% * 40 microns they are horrible filters. They are almost identical to VIC in filtering ability and their dirt holding capacity is also pretty weak.

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    #383
    Quote Originally Posted by niwde11 View Post
    edtf; bro i think one of us(or both) have exceeded the number of PM. hehehhe. anyway pakibuy na lang oil filter para sa 4jg2 natin. pakiask na rin ng how much sa 1kzte if okay. afair, you know loud of 4x4ph since you are are rover fan. malapit lang ako sa kanya. i can get your number from him or you can get my number from him. txt txt na lang kung kelan ka tutuloy. tia.
    Bro the Baldwin filter for your 1kzte should be BD7029

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    #384
    Should have said the BT223 if for basically for all gas Toyota 4cly and 6cly cars and all the D4D 2.5 and 3.0 engines.

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    #385
    I got a reply from Bosch regarding the Filters I bought in SBMA:

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    The oil filters sold in American Hardware in SBMA are authentic and come from us.

    Best Regards,

    Michael Tengonciang
    Robert Bosch Inc.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mailgenerator*de.bosch.com [mailto:mailgenerator*de.bosch.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:42 PM
    To: Tengonciang Jr. Michael (AA/SPH-MKT)
    Subject: Request from Dealer function








    I noticed the gasket is already pre lubricated unlike other filters.

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    #386
    Quote Originally Posted by doo View Post
    I got a reply from Bosch regarding the Filters I bought in SBMA:

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    The oil filters sold in American Hardware in SBMA are authentic and come from us.

    Best Regards,

    Michael Tengonciang
    Robert Bosch Inc.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mailgenerator*de.bosch.com [mailto:mailgenerator*de.bosch.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:42 PM
    To: Tengonciang Jr. Michael (AA/SPH-MKT)
    Subject: Request from Dealer function








    I noticed the gasket is already pre lubricated unlike other filters.
    sir, are your filters same as the ones i posted above?

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    #387
    ^ I think it's different, this part number is for 4JH1-T

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    #388
    Doc is right. Bosch are somewhere average to near average.. (sample Bosch from Warren)


    Vic has issue with the unsealed filter element(edge was taped-blue tape)
    Fleetguard(counterfeit) on the right is a total trash.. its like a tissue paper in a can (again c/o our mabuting suking authorized dealer )

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    #389
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Doc is right. Bosch are somewhere average to near average.. (sample Bosch from Warren)


    Vic has issue with the unsealed filter element(edge was taped-blue tape)
    Fleetguard(counterfeit) on the right is a total trash.. its like a tissue paper in a can (again c/o our mabuting suking authorized dealer )
    yikes, the more reason not to buy fakes! Look at the difference. I'll take the bosch over OEM anytime.
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    #390
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Dumfounded sound more like they were just dumb, I would find a different shop if they are not smart enough to know you can't screw a 3/4 16" thread oil filter to a GM's M18 x 1.5 thread and think it will still work even though the filter is the same physical size. Yeah it will screw on but heck no it will not seal.

    That's why I always bring my own stuff when doing anything, don't relay that all mechanics or properly trained or even know what they are doing. Something like that should never happen with common sense. I mean come really

    * sirkosero

    The Baldwin BT223 is the best option for filters for Toyotas, it's 98% efficient * 12 microns vs Toyota's OEM's 88% * 40 microns they are horrible filters. They are almost identical to VIC in filtering ability and their dirt holding capacity is also pretty weak.
    dvldoc, thanks for the info. will keep that in mind on my next parts run

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    #391
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    sir, are your filters same as the ones i posted above?
    The ones you posted from Indonesia look like the real Bosch noticed the number of holes, thicker base, and if i were a betting man, I would say it did not have the China plastic at the bottom of the filter.

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    #392
    [SIZE=2]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    yikes, the more reason not to buy fakes! Look at the difference. I'll take the bosch over OEM anytime.
    I will never trade OEM not untill i open those replacement filters and see if quality is at par.. I did compared the Mann(Lube filter made in Germany, Fuel Filter made in Argentina) and the quality is the best.. Somehow the Baldwin gives me confidence so its whats in my engine right now.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2] [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]Check this old comparo and i do agree to the quality of Mann [/SIZE][SIZE=2]http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/german.html[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2] [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]If you want a plentiful of genuine filter, go to clover trading in Benavidez just 2 blocks from Volmax.. Yun lang nga Fram..hahaha[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][/SIZE]

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    #393
    [SIZE=2]When choosing filters you have to base the specs from the OEM to guarantee compatibility. Going beyond specs would make your filter your cars enemy.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]1. Size and construction (bigger better)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]2. Presence of Anti-drainback valve[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]3. Correct bypass valve settings and material used (over and lower the specs have effect to filtration)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]4. Capacity (surface area of media)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]5. Efficiency[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]6 Clean Filter Drop and flow rate (for filter heads)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]7. Presence of Standpipe for most Fuel Filters[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]8. Coalescing / water separation efficiency (fuel filter)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]And many more but those mentioned are what im following for choosing my replacement..[/SIZE]

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    #394
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Should have said the BT223 if for basically for all gas Toyota 4cly and 6cly cars and all the D4D 2.5 and 3.0 engines.
    did a cross reference for the 1kzte. This is the 3 li turbo diesel engine for the land cruiser prado. Hmmm... the bd7029 was the one that came out. I shall double check. You think a B2 would fit? If I recall correctly the B2 is also used for toyotays - I just can't remember which one.

    Just to add. I used this for reference:
    http://www.js-filter.com/catalogue#8..._Cruiser_Prado

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    #395
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Doc is right. Bosch are somewhere average to near average.. (sample Bosch from Warren)


    Vic has issue with the unsealed filter element(edge was taped-blue tape)
    Fleetguard(counterfeit) on the right is a total trash.. its like a tissue paper in a can (again c/o our mabuting suking authorized dealer )
    i bought mine from warren. so i guess mine wouldn't have much problem din hehe but next time, will also check baldwin too. however, in the previous page, parang sobrang mura na daw ng baldwin? 200+ nalang yata?

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    #396
    Quote Originally Posted by edtf View Post
    did a cross reference for the 1kzte. This is the 3 li turbo diesel engine for the land cruiser prado. Hmmm... the bd7029 was the one that came out. I shall double check. You think a B2 would fit? If I recall correctly the B2 is also used for toyotays - I just can't remember which one.

    Just to add. I used this for reference:
    JS Filters :: Product Catalogue
    In one word NO,

    Th3 baldwin b2 will not fit your vehicle it is a 3/4 16" thread pattern and it is not a bypass filter like what comes on the 1kzte and the 1KZTE uses a M24 x 1.5 thread pattern.


    BD7029



    Contains: Anti-Drainback Valve
    5-8 PSID By-Pass Valve Fits: Toyota Camry with Diesel Engine Replaces: Toyota 90915-03006, 90915-30002 Thread: M24 x 1.5 O.D.: 3 31/32 (100.8) Length: 4 27/32 (123.0)

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    #397
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    i bought mine from warren. so i guess mine wouldn't have much problem din hehe but next time, will also check baldwin too. however, in the previous page, parang sobrang mura na daw ng baldwin? 200+ nalang yata?
    Fake ata yun bro CB.200+ ba naman. Nasa 800-900++ nga yung oil filter eh, so malapit din dpat dun fuel filter price if ever.
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    #398
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Dumfounded sound more like they were just dumb, I would find a different shop if they are not smart enough to know you can't screw a 3/4 16" thread oil filter to a GM's M18 x 1.5 thread and think it will still work even though the filter is the same physical size. Yeah it will screw on but heck no it will not seal.

    That's why I always bring my own stuff when doing anything, don't relay that all mechanics or properly trained or even know what they are doing. Something like that should never happen with common sense. I mean come really

    * sirkosero

    The Baldwin BT223 is the best option for filters for Toyotas, it's 98% efficient * 12 microns vs Toyota's OEM's 88% * 40 microns they are horrible filters. They are almost identical to VIC in filtering ability and their dirt holding capacity is also pretty weak.
    i got to pass by volmax this morning and got myself a baldwin bt223 for toyota. the casing is bigger than oem toyota and heavier too. hope it fits the vios engine. hehe it costs 215 pesos which is much cheaper than toyota oem. it has the country of origin, 6 large crimps and 7 holes.

    i got the last available stock and next shipment will be on august. in case you want volmax's number its 2448275, 2457076, 2448031, 2448373

    hi dvldoc, thanks for all the info!

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    #399
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    i got to pass by volmax this morning and got myself a baldwin bt223 for toyota. the casing is bigger than oem toyota and heavier too. hope it fits the vios engine. hehe it costs 215 pesos which is much cheaper than toyota oem. it has the country of origin, 6 large crimps and 7 holes.

    i got the last available stock and next shipment will be on august. in case you want volmax's number its 2448275, 2457076, 2448031, 2448373

    hi dvldoc, thanks for all the info!
    Seems like its not fake which is good for you. Nice!
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    #400
    The BT223 is a mixed media filter filters (called microlite) 98% efficient at 12 microns which is 3 times better than OEM it will also hold 3grams more dirt particles and last long. Tough little filter great for Toyotas. I run a Baldwin B14012on my Nissan Altima, oil is considerably cleaner looking. This filter and synthetic oil will give you 12000klm easy I run them 15000klm (10000 miles) on my wife's car. Oil still looks new.

    The BT223 fits all 4cly and 6cly gas toyota's and all D4D engines.






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