Magnafuel review?

[pyramid00]

Niky, Dr D, OJ88, etc., I do not have to prove anything to you, what for? "Nasubukan" ko na ang magnetic device from UK. Hanggang 10% lang ang fc improvement. Made my 1998 L300 run more silent, too.

Q: "Nasubukan niyo na bang gumamit nito sa euro 2 engine?" (Pls dont use on euro 4 engine, because it may confuse the ecu, then, it will have to be reprogrammed)

Pls make subuk-subuk, then, make comment; otherwise its 'fake news'.

[dr. d]

Niky, Dr D, OJ88, etc., I do not have to prove anything to you, what for? "Nasubukan" ko na ang magnetic device from UK. Hanggang 10% lang ang fc improvement. Made my 1998 L300 run more silent, too.

Q: "Nasubukan niyo na bang gumamit nito sa euro 2 engine?" (Pls dont use on euro 4 engine, because it may confuse the ecu, then, it will have to be reprogrammed)

Pls make subuk-subuk, then, make comment; otherwise its 'fake news'.

what i said was, i'd take him seriously if i thought he was talking sense.

[pyramid00]

[QUOTE=dr. d;2847907]

i would, if i thought there was sense in what he was saying.
after all, no one holds the patent to intelligence and common sense.

btw, you seem to be getting recurrent attacks of hypertension. why don't you try the more traditional western medication? it might prove better at controlling the blood pressure.

Sir, di ba lucky na na ako dahil this is my 50th? Ang kuya ko, hanggang 2-3 lang. Remember the 2 ABS-CBN directors na natagpuan na lamang na malamig na bangkay; at maraming pang iba?

Doc, mula ngayon, I will try to take meds for my hpb (together with the iso-tone), and also for my vertigo, and stomach gas.
A friend who is taking some meds for hbp said it costs P5-P10. Mura lang naman pala. Thank you doc.

Pero, make subok-subok, pls.

[dr. d]

[QUOTE=pyramid00;2847918]

Sir, di ba lucky na na ako dahil this is my 50th? Ang kuya ko, hanggang 2-3 lang. Remember the 2 ABS-CBN directors na natagpuan na lamang na malamig na bangkay; at maraming pang iba?

Doc, mula ngayon, I will try to take meds for my hpb (together with the iso-tone), and also for my vertigo, and stomach gas.
A friend who is taking some meds for hbp said it costs P5-P10. Mura lang naman pala. Thank you doc.

Pero, make subok-subok, pls.

that would depend on your definition of "hypertension attack".
to some people, they define it as any blood pressure reading over 140/90. their "attacks" occur every day. that's over 300 "attacks" a year.
to others, if they are still able to stand up and walk, "it's not an attack".

[pyramid00]

what i said was, i'd take him seriously if i thought he was talking sense.

Syempre po, pero bihirang tao ang expert sa maraming bagay (e.g. n tesla). 'jack of all trades, master of none', ika nga.

I reiterate to make subok, then, comment; pls.

[pyramid00]

[QUOTE=dr. d;2847919]

that would depend on your definition of "hypertension attack".
to some people, they define it as any blood pressure reading over 140/90. their "attacks" occur every day. that's 365 attacks a year.
to others, if they are still able to stand up and walk, "it's not an attack".

ok, youre the doctor. i only consider it an 'attack' if i get dizzy followed by a blank mind. In 1 1/2 years, = 50X.

[pyramid00]

The burden of proof always lies with the claimant. Not the questioner.

I have access to two or three different dynos and testing facilities, plus friends with OBD scanners, Wideband O2 and other testing equipment.

Send a demo unit and we'll test it opposite a placebo cast/molded in the same shape on a modern car with electronic engine control.

Testing format A-B, A-B, A-B (to normalize for differences between cold and hot running conditions and weather changes during the day), on the dyno, with the engine held via dyno brake at a specific rpm, to test for constant throttle consumption. Blind test versus placebo, semi-randomized by coin flip.

If you really want, we can even do double-blind placebo fuel runs on the highway, same format, A-B, A-B, A-B. Clear highway, cruise control (so no cheating).

But of course, you'll have to pay for the gas.

Sir, hindi pala pwede ang nuvi-nuvi sa modern engines. Last time we installed on a fortuner, parang nalulunod. When the 02 sensor 'sees' the increase in 02 flow, it will interpret this as a lean burn, so it will dump more fuel. The 'cure' would be to use an EFIE device. If imported, this will cost 50-100usd. There are circuits on the web, so i could make one, but that would be much later. (Sa crosswind specs, baka pwede.)

I only know about the dyno testing facilities of Speedlab. (P4k-5k/test before) We wuld like to test our device on a dyno; before and after lang on our Nissan Sentra 1994 for our own peace of mind, probably next month. Meron pa bang dyno testing facilities sa MM aside from Speedlab? Yong pinakamura?

[niky]

Niky, Dr D, OJ88, etc., I do not have to prove anything to you, what for? "Nasubukan" ko na ang magnetic device from UK. Hanggang 10% lang ang fc improvement. Made my 1998 L300 run more silent, too.

Q: "Nasubukan niyo na bang gumamit nito sa euro 2 engine?" (Pls dont use on euro 4 engine, because it may confuse the ecu, then, it will have to be reprogrammed)

Pls make subuk-subuk, then, make comment; otherwise its 'fake news'.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's the claimant who bears the burden of proof, not the critics.

Lots of dynos here. If the manufacturer or distributor is really interested, it is very easy to set up an impartial test.

Also, I improved economy 10-15% with nothing but illustration board and duct tape. But I actually documented and tested this via an A-B test with multiple data points.



http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/f...g-a36-20160402



Only reason I haven't done this on my personal car is a.) It looks ghetto, and b.) I don't have the time to fab up a better looking fiberglass kit.

[pyramid00]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's the claimant who bears the burden of proof, not the critics.

Lots of dynos here. If the manufacturer or distributor is really interested, it is very easy to set up an impartial test.

Also, I improved economy 10-15% with nothing but illustration board and duct tape. But I actually documented and tested this via an A-B test with multiple data points.

Only reason I haven't done this on my personal car is a.) It looks ghetto, and b.) I don't have the time to fab up a better looking fiberglass kit.

Sir, we dont want to give proof about the performance of nuvi-nuvi. We owe it to ourselves to be satisfied with the expected results.(whatever the dyno results will be). What we want to do is; have our old vehicle be dynoed on a monday, install the device/s and come back again on the next monday for the 'after' test. Walang gagawin sa car except use it between manila and cabanatuan.

I dont know the mechanics of decreasing a 10%-15% fc using board and duct tape. What is the principle behind that?

This dyno test will be on power increase, isnt it? A - B test only. No test on fc, smoke reduction or whatever. Only a dyno result. Is it still p4k/test with speedlab? Thanks for any info.

[oj88]

Niky, Dr D, OJ88, etc., I do not have to prove anything to you, what for? "Nasubukan" ko na ang magnetic device from UK. Hanggang 10% lang ang fc improvement. Made my 1998 L300 run more silent, too.

Q: "Nasubukan niyo na bang gumamit nito sa euro 2 engine?" (Pls dont use on euro 4 engine, because it may confuse the ecu, then, it will have to be reprogrammed)

Pls make subuk-subuk, then, make comment; otherwise its 'fake news'.

I don't have to try it to know it's crap. I know how to appreciate good piano music even if I can't play a single tune. By the same reasoning, I will be skeptical to any product that sells itself as a cure-it-all.

It's a fake product.... along with all them 'miracle' gadgets.

Ma-coconfuse yung ECU warranting a reprogramming? From what, 'magnetized' fuel? LOL! You're forcing anting-anting type logic and passing them off as science.

[pyramid00]

I don't have to try it to know it's crap. I know how to appreciate good piano music even if I can't play a single tune. By the same reasoning, I will be skeptical to any product that sells itself as a cure-it-all.

It's a fake product.... along with all them 'miracle' gadgets.

Ma-coconfuse yung ECU warranting a reprogramming? From what, 'magnetized' fuel? LOL! You're forcing anting-anting type logic and passing them off as science.

Sir oj88, with due respect, your comment is uncalled for at this time. Pls refrain from making negative comments unless you are "sure" of what you are talking about. That's is why we will be submitting our invention for dyno test this july or august to prove to ourselves (not to others) and to our newest investor, an Australian chemical engineer, on the efficacy of the device/s.

We installed it on a fortuner (euro 4?) but the effect was opposite. Lalong hindi makatakbo dahil (in theory) the ecu sensed the increase of 02 flowing and considered this as a lean burn, so it dumped more fuel. We know that for euro 4 engines, we should be installing a EFIE (gas) and MAP enhancer (diesel) to isolate the ecu. Sa mga 1994 models (euro 2), ayos naman siya.

Paano na lang kung maganda ang result ng dyno? Ano magiging excuse mo sa mga 'dirty' comments mo? Eh di 'sorry ha? With good or bad results, I dont want to consider you an adversary. I believe that all TS on tsikot are buddies. In the meantime, pls close the trap and wait. Thank you.

[lowslowbenz]

Asenso na kayo ngayon ha ..

Dati Tamaraw FX ang test mule nyo, ngayon Fortuner na!

[oj88]

Sir oj88, with due respect, your comment is uncalled for at this time. Pls refrain from making negative comments unless you are "sure" of what you are talking about. That's is why we will be submitting our invention for dyno test this july or august to prove to ourselves (not to others) and to our newest investor, an Australian chemical engineer, on the efficacy of the device/s.

We installed it on a fortuner (euro 4?) but the effect was opposite. Lalong hindi makatakbo dahil (in theory) the ecu sensed the increase of 02 flowing and considered this as a lean burn, so it dumped more fuel. We know that for euro 4 engines, we should be installing a EFIE (gas) and MAP enhancer (diesel) to isolate the ecu. Sa mga 1994 models (euro 2), ayos naman siya.

Paano na lang kung maganda ang result ng dyno? Ano magiging excuse mo sa mga 'dirty' comments mo? Eh di 'sorry ha? With good or bad results, I dont want to consider you an adversary. I believe that all TS on tsikot are buddies. In the meantime, pls close the trap and wait. Thank you.

I stand by my trap. Bring it on.

And don't blame a critic. You can't even provide the chemical and/or math formulas proving your theory. You say that magnetism breaks up the hydrocarbons and whatnot... show exactly what formula states X amounts of magnetic flux focused on Y amount of area can break up Z amounts of hydrocarbon molecules.

[pyramid00]

Asenso na kayo ngayon ha ..

Dati Tamaraw FX ang test mule nyo, ngayon Fortuner na!

May nagpakabit lang po. Mabuti nga at nasubukan namin sa fortuner. The puzzling part is, we installed the device/s on a innova. Bumaba daw ang idle, kaya pina-adjust ng may-ari, satisfied naman. Luma na rin yong innova kaya medyo may kaunting smoke. Hardly discernible na ngayon, we suggested that he should have the engine checked.

The only difference is; only the EM is installed on the fortuner while the EM/ES (nuvi-nuvi) is installed on the innova. I am puzzled by this. Maybe, we will try the nuvi-nuvi on another fortuner? hmmm I wonder.

LSB, since you are the expert, what's happening?

[pyramid00]

I stand by my trap. Bring it on.

And don't blame a critic. You can't even provide the chemical and/or math formulas proving your theory. You say that magnetism breaks up the hydrocarbons and whatnot... show exactly what formula states X amounts of magnetic flux focused on Y amount of area can break up Z amounts of hydrocarbon molecules.

ok, I will answer you later, after the dyno tests. In the meantime, you are asking me the impossible, re chemical/math formulas. Three years lang ako sa electronics technology, that's why.

My answer would be same as my post in #20 of this thread. Since you dont believe ijmca, sila na lang ang pagbuntunan mo ng galit mo.

[niky]

Sir, we dont want to give proof about the performance of nuvi-nuvi. We owe it to ourselves to be satisfied with the expected results.(whatever the dyno results will be). What we want to do is; have our old vehicle be dynoed on a monday, install the device/s and come back again on the next monday for the 'after' test. Walang gagawin sa car except use it between manila and cabanatuan.

I dont know the mechanics of decreasing a 10%-15% fc using board and duct tape. What is the principle behind that?

This dyno test will be on power increase, isnt it? A - B test only. No test on fc, smoke reduction or whatever. Only a dyno result. Is it still p4k/test with speedlab? Thanks for any info.

That's not acceptable and not a valid test. The vehicle will have to be left at the testing facility to ensure nothing else is changed on the vehicle. If miles need to be put on it for the ECU to "adjust" to whatever, they can be put on it there at the facility.

RE: board and duct tape: Read the article I posted. Aerodynamic principles, with scientific basis, backed by empirical scientific testing done by many, many other enthusiasts.

Dyno places usually have tail-pipe sniffers for O2. You could just borrow a sniffer from an emissions center for HC and NOx.

[lowslowbenz]

LSB, since you are the expert, what's happening?

Wow, you're still at it? After all these years???

Try selling real estate or condo's, I swear you'll earn more.

[pyramid00]

That's not acceptable and not a valid test. The vehicle will have to be left at the testing facility to ensure nothing else is changed on the vehicle. If miles need to be put on it for the ECU to "adjust" to whatever, they can be put on it there at the facility.

RE: board and duct tape: Read the article I posted. Aerodynamic principles, with scientific basis, backed by empirical scientific testing done by many, many other enthusiasts.

Dyno places usually have tail-pipe sniffers for O2. You could just borrow a sniffer from an emissions center for HC and NOx.

Tnx for the info. Like I said, this test, A-B, will be only for our own consumption, for our own use and records purposes only. (for our eyes only) It will be on our old car (1994), so no ecu problem. Di, ipa-measure na rin namin with their 02 sensors and have the emission test after the dyno.

The notion that the vehicle will be left at the test facility... Our EM device will take effect only after travelling 200 km (for diesel) and 50-100km (for gasoline); parang "learning effect". while the ES device may take a few minutes to take effect. (usually 5-15 mins).

This tests will be hidden from the public. Anyway, tnx for the info, sir.

[pyramid00]

Wow, you're still at it? After all these years???

Try selling real estate or condo's, I swear you'll earn more.

Take 2: what's happening, sir?

We aren't active on selling the device; when an Australian chem engineer saw the device/s and explained to him how it works, he agreed on our simple explanation. Next, he gave us 10k (aus d) to start the ES which is still in its proto stage. Nag lie low na ako a long time ago, however, when he offered the amount without reservations, how am I to refuse?

Our EM device could be modified into several devices, e.g., TENS device, CES device, water conditioner, electromagnetic pulser, (of course, with modifications). I am kinda enjoying it.

The selling business isn't my type. Round hole, square peg. I am more at home in my little workshop; enjoy na enjoy, no worries. Wala akong problem pero nagkaroon ako ng suliranin nang dumating si Australian gent.

[Yatta]

Meanwhile, I have this rock on my table. i picked this up while hiking and so far no tigers have attacked me at my desk. I have no idea why no tigers have come, so I'm guessing its giving off some energy that tigers hate. Still working on the equation though. I wonder if I should sell it as tiger repellent...

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