Moving Abroad - Why or Why Not?

[MR_BIG18]

one word of caution, don't expect life is easy abroad. we tried living in london with the whole family (4 kids). me and my wife are working in hospital there. salary is good but earn pounds, spend pounds. environment is better, cool and clean. BUT college education for the kids is expensive. while we're there, life is really difficult, we were alone. laban, luto, gawaing bahay, inyo lahat. then, iba ang level nga trabaho doon, supervisor ka dito, simula ka sa pinaka mababa doon. and yes, though some people may not agree, racism is true. after 4 years there, we went home and life is even greater. mas masarap ang buhay dito. basta, di ko kaya ma explain kasi magka iba tayo ng priorities sa buhay. iba pa rin ang buhay sa pinas. marami pa ang kasabayan namin noon na gusto ng bumalik pero lubog sa utang sa abroad. just my 2 cents.. follow your hearts desire.

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Laba, luto, linis din kami dito...wala din kaming maid..the difference is stress...mas madaling i manage dito..

[SpinCycle]

one word of caution, don't expect life is easy abroad. we tried living in london with the whole family (4 kids). me and my wife are working in hospital there. salary is good but earn pounds, spend pounds. environment is better, cool and clean. BUT college education for the kids is expensive. while we're there, life is really difficult, we were alone. laban, luto, gawaing bahay, inyo lahat. then, iba ang level nga trabaho doon, supervisor ka dito, simula ka sa pinaka mababa doon. and yes, though some people may not agree, racism is true. after 4 years there, we went home and life is even greater. mas masarap ang buhay dito. basta, di ko kaya ma explain kasi magka iba tayo ng priorities sa buhay. iba pa rin ang buhay sa pinas. marami pa ang kasabayan namin noon na gusto ng bumalik pero lubog sa utang sa abroad. just my 2 cents.. follow your hearts desire.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. My wife and I just moved to London, and I do agree that kami ang gumagawa lahat ng chores: laba, grocery, luto, linis. Nagtry kami maghire ng cleaner pero hindi ako natuwa sa level ng linis. Iba pa rin ang linis ng Pilipino. Mahal na bayad, hindi ka pa matutuwa sa trabaho nila.

So now, my wife and I share the household chores. When I was in PH, never ako naglinis ng banyo but I've learned to do it over here.

And yes, racism still exists in some form or another. Some shops or restaurants don't prioritize you or provide you with less than stellar service than they would to a native Brit. Unfortunately, mababa talaga tingin ng ibang tao dito sa Pinoy.

This is why I strive harder in my job than the locals which actually impresses my bosses as my output is much higher than my colleagues. In a way, I hope this helps elevate us Pinoys in their eyes.

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[benchph1]

If i may just add, we pinoys must leave our onion skin attitude in PH and adopt an open mind when living/working abroad especially in 1st world countries.

No offense but people who say life is hard in other countries just cannot accept the fact that they are back to zero in the corporate ladder , they do household chores by themselves, they experienced racism, among many reasons..Situation will always be like this and always will be. Your fault is you did not research enough. Or, you can’t let go of your “onion skin attitude”

Now for those who loved their new life abroad, have adopted an open mind , looked past the difficulties and is always looking at the bigger picture.

For me, i am planning to migrate to NZ with my family, i am aware that i may take up blue collar jobs just to get by, i am aware that me & my wife will do everything ourselves, i am aware that anytime a local may call me a “brown monkey” to my face.

I just look at the bigger picture and remember why we decided to go here. That is to have a better future for our family.


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[Yatta]

Laba, luto, linis din kami dito...wala din kaming maid..the difference is stress...mas madaling i manage dito..

My wife and I studied in Japan, so between us we spent a total of 10 years there. Mahirap, we have to do our own groceries/marketing, cooking, dishes, laundry and house cleaning. Not to mention the language barrier. Then when our son was born we both had to take care of him (walang yaya) and I still had to finish my dissertation. Luckily graduate na si misis noon and he was born 8 months before I was due to graduate anyway. Pero still it was hard.

[shelu]

If i may just add, we pinoys must leave our onion skin attitude in PH and adopt an open mind when living/working abroad especially in 1st world countries.

No offense but people who say life is hard in other countries just cannot accept the fact that they are back to zero in the corporate ladder , they do household chores by themselves, they experienced racism, among many reasons..Situation will always be like this and always will be. Your fault is you did not research enough. Or, you can’t let go of your “onion skin attitude”

Now for those who loved their new life abroad, have adopted an open mind , looked past the difficulties and is always looking at the bigger picture.

For me, i am planning to migrate to NZ with my family, i am aware that i may take up blue collar jobs just to get by, i am aware that me & my wife will do everything ourselves, i am aware that anytime a local may call me a “brown monkey” to my face.

I just look at the bigger picture and remember why we decided to go here. That is to have a better future for our family.


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to be honest, me and my wife came from a poor family and onion skin attitude that you talked about means nothing to us. di kami balat sibuyas kaya bumalik kami dito sa atin. as I said, we have different priorities. we found out the hard way that being close to our families is more important than financial security. and sometimes, we can have both.

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[minicarph]

i have found the answer to life after all my researching and travels to US, Europe, Asia.

we are all reincarnation.

ba't ka naging Pilipino ngaun sa lifetime mo na'to, kasi yun ang purpose mo maging Pilipino and all along with it, dilapidated tricycles, jeep, third world, corrupt politicians and yun mga ni-rerepack na kunwari Armor All o Nutella pero repacked, I mean even the Nescafe here is repacked. akala mo lang bumibile ka ng international brand. parang Family Mart, I mean ano ba silbe ng Family mart nag-open pa sila kungdi di nila gawin Japan products dito.

Pero ganun eh, ganun ang Pilipinas.

why did you become Filipino? eh kasi pwede pumalpak ka sa past life mo so dito ka dinala sa Philippines, kungdi dapat Norwegian or Swedish ka sana ngaun, one of the happiest people on earth right now.



so what's the take? well, you have to endure it here. if you say migrate to look for a better life, you will be denying your purpose why you became Filipino. so kahit nag-eenjoy ka sa America ka ngaun ng mga fast cars and apple iphone XS, ang next life mo, baka bagsak mo sa India or worst baka maging aso ka.


those Filipinos who migrated. I know that you know what youre feeling. You feel something amiss, somehow you're not fulfilling your purpose even with all the kasosyalan dyan. I suggest umuwi na kayo kasi delikado at baka kung san mapunta ang soul nyo sa next life
sinasayang nyo lang oras nyo dyan sa ibang bansa. we all have like 20-60 years old to fulfill our purpose to the max of our abilities

eh kung andyan kayo sa dyuhan bansa, ummuwi sa apartment nyo stranger, trabaho trabaho bahay, wala kaya makasalimuha kasi nga mga banyaga kapitbahay nyo. wala din sense networking with other Filipino migrants, kasi they themselves are lost.

[travajante]

i have found the answer to life after all my researching and travels to US, Europe, Asia.

we are all reincarnation.

ba't ka naging Pilipino ngaun sa lifetime mo na'to, kasi yun ang purpose mo maging Pilipino and all along with it, dilapidated tricycles, jeep, third world, corrupt politicians and yun mga ni-rerepack na kunwari Armor All o Nutella pero repacked, I mean even the Nescafe here is repacked. akala mo lang bumibile ka ng international brand. parang Family Mart, I mean ano ba silbe ng Family mart nag-open pa sila kungdi di nila gawin Japan products dito.

Pero ganun eh, ganun ang Pilipinas.

why did you become Filipino? eh kasi pwede pumalpak ka sa past life mo so dito ka dinala sa Philippines, kungdi dapat Norwegian or Swedish ka sana ngaun, one of the happiest people on earth right now.



so what's the take? well, you have to endure it here. if you say migrate to look for a better life, you will be denying your purpose why you became Filipino. so kahit nag-eenjoy ka sa America ka ngaun ng mga fast cars and apple iphone XS, ang next life mo, baka bagsak mo sa India or worst baka maging aso ka.


those Filipinos who migrated. I know that you know what youre feeling. You feel something amiss, somehow you're not fulfilling your purpose even with all the kasosyalan dyan. I suggest umuwi na kayo kasi delikado at baka kung san mapunta ang soul nyo sa next life
sinasayang nyo lang oras nyo dyan sa ibang bansa. we all have like 20-60 years old to fulfill our purpose to the max of our abilities

eh kung andyan kayo sa dyuhan bansa, ummuwi sa apartment nyo stranger, trabaho trabaho bahay, wala kaya makasalimuha kasi nga mga banyaga kapitbahay nyo. wala din sense networking with other Filipino migrants, kasi they themselves are lost.

It's kinda odd, but I've long sensed the same fatalism, OB.....like this is a necessary cleansing stop, probably the last one, to prove our worth for the promised. Purgatory can't be a breeze. Escape it now by moving & you'll likey just be a step back, postponing the agony.[emoji14]

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[_Cathy_]

why did you become Filipino? eh kasi pwede pumalpak ka sa past life mo so dito ka dinala sa Philippines, kungdi dapat Norwegian or Swedish ka sana ngaun, one of the happiest people on earth right now.

Minsan naiinis nga ako pag naiisip ko yan. I really do wish I were born Caucasian.

One more reason why I don't wanna migrate, I'll always be a second class citizen in another country.

[jut703]

Laba, luto, linis din kami dito...wala din kaming maid..the difference is stress...mas madaling i manage dito..

Pansin ko nga na common complaint yun about living abroad - na mag-isa ka to do your house chores.

Same tayo, wala rin kaming maid so doing house chores isn't new to me anymore.

I think the loneliness and starting at the bottom of the food chain are the bigger drawbacks of moving abroad.

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[minicarph]

It's kinda odd, but I've long sensed the same fatalism, OB.....like this is a necessary cleansing stop, probably the last one, to prove our worth for the promised. Purgatory can't be a breeze. Escape it now by moving & you'll likey just be a step back, postponing the agony.[emoji14]

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na-sense mo din ba na kaya lang yun ibang tao binibigyan ng anak kasi hinde nila kaya or they are too coward or too comfort seeking to fulfill their purpose so the son or the daughter will help their redemption. nagkakarun sila ng secondary purpose whereas ang true purpose nila di na nila maitutuloy pa.

napansin ko eto sa matatanda eh, after say like taking of their sons and daughters pag dating nila ng 60 naging grumpy na sila and destroying the lives of their sons and daughters. that is clear manifestation that they failed their true purpose and they blame their kids for not accomplishing that purpose

I tend to believe that this world is a test for all of us. there are so many aids kung at one point mag dark ka, meron ****, meron beer/alak, casino, meron mga 4x4 trucks and sportscars but those are given to us so that we can enjoy for a brief moment and beat the darkside and then continue on with our purpose


i have also observed this sa mga kebigan ko mayayaman, na may tig 1M na relo, 10M na porsche, they feel so empty even if they have an english speaking kid na pumapasok sa international school

sa tingin ko madami mayaman ngaun ang totoong purpose talaga with their talents is to become NGO. and yet they wasted those talents to get rich, not to make a difference like for example magpaligo ng mga katutubo sa isang isolated sa Pilipinas

[minicarph]

Pansin ko nga na common complaint yun about living abroad - na mag-isa ka to do your house chores.

Same tayo, wala rin kaming maid so doing house chores isn't new to me anymore.

I think the loneliness and starting at the bottom of the food chain are the bigger drawbacks of moving abroad.

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when i was in Europe last may, despite my hectic schedule. I felt so lonely in the hotel pag 9pm na. It was Kassel Germany, I mean the place is so progressive, very nice scenes, landmarks. world class unesco heritage.

pero at the end of they day I felt so lonely. I felt that I did not belong to that place even though it so beautiful and magestic and the local Germans even had a car show in their town.


so dun ko na-realize na Europe, America they are for input for you, to change something in you so that when you go back to the Philippines, you're kinda refreshed, re-ergenized. but to imagine to live there for good, is like killing yourself as early as when you migrated.

ma-feel mo yan eh yan loneliness there is pain but not physical somewhat inner pain somewhat in the spiritual realm na why are you here, you cannot stay here its not compatible with your soul.

[travajante]

Been "HELPless" for a while by choice. Never could find comfort in passing on discomfort. Guess no amount of bleaching can whiten the blue collar.[emoji17]

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[minicarph]

Been "HELPless" for a while by choice. Never could find comfort in passing on discomfort. Guess no amount of bleaching can whiten the blue collar.[emoji17]

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simple lang yan bro. determine the one that you are running away from, i dont know basta alam mo na yan. go face it. im not saying those are the answers. but it could be the first step. if you dont act now, that darkness will creep up to you and you will end up like the so many grown ups we see today, lost and pretending


atsaka nga pala, dont pay too much attention to money. yes money can be a limiter. pero, para sakin kasi experience first utang later.

[travajante]

na-sense mo din ba na kaya lang yun ibang tao binibigyan ng anak kasi hinde nila kaya or they are too coward or too comfort seeking to fulfill their purpose so the son or the daughter will help their redemption. nagkakarun sila ng secondary purpose whereas ang true purpose nila di na nila maitutuloy pa.

napansin ko eto sa matatanda eh, after say like taking of their sons and daughters pag dating nila ng 60 naging grumpy na sila and destroying the lives of their sons and daughters. that is clear manifestation that they failed their true purpose and they blame their kids for not accomplishing that purpose

I tend to believe that this world is a test for all of us. there are so many aids kung at one point mag dark ka, meron ****, meron beer/alak, casino, meron mga 4x4 trucks and sportscars but those are given to us so that we can enjoy for a brief moment and beat the darkside and then continue on with our purpose


i have also observed this sa mga kebigan ko mayayaman, na may tig 1M na relo, 10M na porsche, they feel so empty even if they have an english speaking kid na pumapasok sa international school

sa tingin ko madami mayaman ngaun ang totoong purpose talaga with their talents is to become NGO. and yet they wasted those talents to get rich, not to make a difference like for example magpaligo ng mga katutubo sa isang isolated sa Pilipinas

The big picture I see is stripped down simple. Joy in giving way & guilt in self-first. Oddly wired, I know.[emoji17]

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[travajante]

atsaka nga pala, dont pay too much attention to money. yes money can be a limiter. pero, para sakin kasi experience first utang later.

I can't pay attention to what I can't see.[emoji41]
Pardon our troll talk, guys.[emoji4]



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[minicarph]

ah alam ko na wala ka pa girlfriend? masyado ka poetic magsalita. but dont be mad at me im not attacking. if that is how you want to speak it's fine. its' you. malamang mahilig ka magbasa

ganito na lang, there are two things you can do, elimnate that energy yes that feeling of being so poetic and rhyming baka yan ang nagpipigil sa yo to discover your path. OR sabi ko nga, harness it, it can be your source of true power.

so first, find a jologs girl, punta ka sa mga lugar na hinde mga sosy na malls, sa ermita, sa malate or you fountain dun sa roxas blvd. stay there fine somebody you can love or fall in love with. flower girl, sampaguita girl, prosti bahala ka na. love her. hanggang dyan lang muna hihi

[travajante]

ah alam ko na wala ka pa girlfriend? masyado ka poetic magsalita. but dont be mad at me im not attacking. if that is how you want to speak it's fine. its' you. malamang mahilig ka magbasa

ganito na lang, there are two things you can do, elimnate that energy yes that feeling of being so poetic and rhyming baka yan ang nagpipigil sa yo to discover your path. OR sabi ko nga, harness it, it can be your source of true power.

so first, find a jologs girl, punta ka sa mga lugar na hinde mga sosy na malls, sa ermita, sa malate or you fountain dun sa roxas blvd. stay there fine somebody you can love or fall in love with. flower girl, sampaguita girl, prosti bahala ka na. love her. hanggang dyan lang muna hihi

[emoji1787] Hermit life is bliss, OB. My comfort zone is very limited.[emoji14]

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[2lits17]

I also live and work abroad currently for 8 yrs na, but long term wise i still want to go back to pinas, i know it will be hard to adjust again when i'm back to pinas but for the sake of my children, i dont like the attitude of the kids here kahit yun mga pinoy friends ko na here na may kids na dito na nag aral and all, they are very independent and no values. one time sinisigawan pa ng bata yun magulang niya tapos yun magulang sunod lang sa bata kumpleto pa sa gadgets, kasi yun friends may ipad at iphone dapat siya meron din. mataas din suicide rate at depression ng mga kids, failed grade lang depress na, feeling failure at mag suicide na. sarap isama sa pinas sa slums para marealize nila gano sila kaswerte compared sa mga bata sa slums.

usually my friends who migrated abroad always tell me the reason is because PI is very dirty, traffic always, daming bad elements, snatchers, pickpockets, massacre, ang gulo ng pinas daming patayan daming natural disasters, because that is what the media is feeding everyone puro bad news.

but come to think of it. Sa USA, walang snatcher pero daming psycho na anytime pwede mamaril. Sa europe dami din pickpockets at kawatan kahit saan, lalo na pag foreign looking ka. So kahit saan country may risk talaga, some here are correct, we need to go and live on a foreign land to realize what we are missing in our home country. but of course meron din ibang tao na naka pag work lang abroad they treat PI like a trash, minsan pag nakakarinig ako ng ganun na kwentuhan from strangers sarap barahin.

[erdiedizon]

I also live and work abroad currently for 8 yrs na, but long term wise i still want to go back to pinas, i know it will be hard to adjust again when i'm back to pinas but for the sake of my children, i dont like the attitude of the kids here kahit yun mga pinoy friends ko na here na may kids na dito na nag aral and all, they are very independent and no values. one time sinisigawan pa ng bata yun magulang niya tapos yun magulang sunod lang sa bata kumpleto pa sa gadgets, kasi yun friends may ipad at iphone dapat siya meron din. mataas din suicide rate at depression ng mga kids, failed grade lang depress na, feeling failure at mag suicide na. sarap isama sa pinas sa slums para marealize nila gano sila kaswerte compared sa mga bata sa slums.

usually my friends who migrated abroad always tell me the reason is because PI is very dirty, traffic always, daming bad elements, snatchers, pickpockets, massacre, ang gulo ng pinas daming patayan daming natural disasters, because that is what the media is feeding everyone puro bad news.

but come to think of it. Sa USA, walang snatcher pero daming psycho na anytime pwede mamaril. Sa europe dami din pickpockets at kawatan kahit saan, lalo na pag foreign looking ka. So kahit saan country may risk talaga, some here are correct, we need to go and live on a foreign land to realize what we are missing in our home country. but of course meron din ibang tao na naka pag work lang abroad they treat PI like a trash, minsan pag nakakarinig ako ng ganun na kwentuhan from strangers sarap barahin.

100% agree with u, and we are in the same situation actually. Wife and I have 2 kids both girls, its our 13 years na in abroad. In fact im already excited to go back home for good, sarap ng buhay sa pinas eh.


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[Vodka]

dapat mag set up ng island dito sa PH na walang jeeps and tricycles. bawal 2-stroke. bawal diesel. shoot to kill ang mga kamote riders/drivers, at mga nagkakalat ng basura