Moving Abroad - Why or Why Not?

**jut703** · March 31st, 2018 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by dreamur

Seriously jut, if you have the chance, go for it. You are still young and there is room to make mistake and there is enough time to recover. With your skills and credential, you can easily get a good paying job if you decide to come back.

I regret the day I decided not to pursue my papers for fear of getting out of my comfort zone. So many what-ifs left in my mind that I am still inclined to migrate after I retire.

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I don't really have the chance bro. Makikipagsapalaran lang ako kung lilipat ako. I'll be giving up my cushy job in a multinational for absolutely nothing. If I get lucky, maybe I can get a job as a car salesman or whatever entry-level position that probably still doesn't make as much as I make now.

Again, it'll only be a safe gamble if I get an international assignment and then eventually apply for a local posting. But by that time, my fiance will already have rooted her medical practice here. Super hirap nang lumipat for a doctor if you've started somewhere else. So the timing is really not in sync.

I'll be giving up too much if I go. There has to be something so enticing that I will drop everything and leave. Ano nga ba yun?

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**dreamur** · March 31st, 2018 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

I don't really have the chance bro. Makikipagsapalaran lang ako kung lilipat ako. I'll be giving up my cushy job in a multinational for absolutely nothing. If I get lucky, maybe I can get a job as a car salesman or whatever entry-level position that probably still doesn't make as much as I make now.

Again, it'll only be a safe gamble if I get an international assignment and then eventually apply for a local posting. But by that time, my fiance will already have rooted her medical practice here. Super hirap nang lumipat for a doctor if you've started somewhere else. So the timing is really not in sync.

I'll be giving up too much if I go. There has to be something so enticing that I will drop everything and leave. Ano nga ba yun?

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Politics would be one. 🤣🤣🤣

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**jut703** · March 31st, 2018 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by dreamur

Politics would be one. 🤣🤣🤣

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At least dito nakakaboto ako bro. [emoji16]

But seriously - looking at it pragmatically, kahit naman sino maging presidente, pareho lang trajectory ng career ko. Just be water, go with the flow.

Kaya I'm seriously wondering - ano nga ba talaga meron sa first world country na wala dito?

Every time I go abroad, I get amazed by the efficient transpo, clean spaces, first world kaartehan like parks and museums. But those places aren't home. I'm not one of them. My family isn't there. My friends aren't there.

For sure, the Philippines will not be first-world in my lifetime. But at least here, I'm home.

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**AllenR** · March 31st, 2018 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

here, I'm home.

This sums it up pretty well

**travajante** · March 31st, 2018 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

At least dito nakakaboto ako bro. [emoji16]

But seriously - looking at it pragmatically, kahit naman sino maging presidente, pareho lang trajectory ng career ko. Just be water, go with the flow.

Kaya I'm seriously wondering - ano nga ba talaga meron sa first world country na wala dito?

Every time I go abroad, I get amazed by the efficient transpo, clean spaces, first world kaartehan like parks and museums. But those places aren't home. I'm not one of them. My family isn't there. My friends aren't there.

For sure, the Philippines will not be first-world in my lifetime. But at least here, I'm home.

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Be where you can be of better service for others, good sir. Real happiness is really where you can give or share more. Home needs good people staying.
Big pic....everything is temporary anyway.[emoji4]

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**CVT** · March 31st, 2018 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

At least dito nakakaboto ako bro. [emoji16]
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And hoping beyond hope that my vote's weight is directly proportional to my contribution in nation building.

Anyway, we had the same opportunity when our eldest was only a year old. Company transfer, so ready jobs in SiValley.

We wanted our parents to enjoy their grandchildren and the same thing the other way. Both deserve it.

We are because of our choices.

**EQAddict** · March 31st, 2018 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by CVT

And hoping beyond hope that my vote's weight is directly proportional to my contribution in nation building.

Bro if this were the case then top 40 billionaires/ tax payers/big biz owners/philanthropists would call all the shots. Which ironically they are close to doing anyway.

You and i would be voices in the wilderness. And millions more wouldnt be heard at all.

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**CVT** · March 31st, 2018 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by EQAddict

Bro if this were the case then top 40 billionaires/ tax payers/big biz owners/philanthropists would call all the shots. Which ironically they are close to doing anyway.

You and i would be voices in the wilderness. And millions more wouldnt be heard at all.

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You're correct in that perspective bro.

It just pains me that my vote is just equal to a tambay sa kanto, who can sell his/her family's future for a few hundred pesos.... Sorry, OT na....

Btt: Many families did it arguably for the future of their kids...

**Wh1stl3r** · March 31st, 2018 10:09 PM

I always have mixed feelings whenever someone I know moves out of the country. On the one hand I'm glad they're off to a mostly better place to live their lives. Good for them.

On the other hand it feels sad to lose good people. And I keep on wondering if our country will ever get better if our good people keep on leaving.

**jojopad** · March 31st, 2018 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by CVT

You're correct in that perspective bro.

It just pains me that my vote is just equal to a tambay sa kanto, who can sell his/her family's future for a few hundred pesos.... Sorry, OT na....

Btt: Many families did it arguably for the future of their kids...

Same sentiments I have. We tend to see the present comfort but not so much for the long term. I regret that I didn't mustered the courage a decade ago to challenge my comfort zone and pursued something that I know will be better for my kids' future. At the time that the risk was less I should have taken the chance. Somehow the economic boom 5 years ago convinced me that perhaps this country is going to recover. That perhaps is just a temporary thing.

For now middle income earners here in PH are enjoying a comfortable lifestyle but that's a transient thing when it comes to third world countries like the Philippines. There's no assurance that such comfortable life will remain the same. There are too many risks (natural and man-made) that can put this country into jeopardy. Let that sink for a while whenever we think for our children's future. For the cash rich Pinoys, the risk is quite minimal since they can easily move to another country. For hard working middle income earners and poor families, it's always going to be a struggle.

I can see friends enjoying a comfortable life at Australia. Sure they'll feel some longing to go back home, but that's something that can be easily remedied. Home is where you choose to be with those people that really matters. It's not bounded by land or nationality. It's not a destiny we blindly believe into but a choice we make.