Moving Abroad - Why or Why Not?

[Ry_Tower]

Well it’s official, my wife and I are heading to London. Got our Visas last Friday and the deadline to be in the UK is June 6! So little time to prep for the move [emoji28]

Already booked our AirBnB for 3 weeks which we’ll use to search for a long term lease flat.

Now I need to book the plane tickets. Any suggestions based on your experiences from Manila to UK? [emoji1374]


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Congratulations and the best of luck in your new challenge in life.

[dreamur]

Well it’s official, my wife and I are heading to London. Got our Visas last Friday and the deadline to be in the UK is June 6! So little time to prep for the move [emoji28]

Already booked our AirBnB for 3 weeks which we’ll use to search for a long term lease flat.

Now I need to book the plane tickets. Any suggestions based on your experiences from Manila to UK? [emoji1374]


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Try PAL. I think they are having a promo now. Congrats bro and good luck!

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[chronicle]

Congrats. Less than 1 month prep.
How long was your application?

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[SpinCycle]

Congrats. Less than 1 month prep.
How long was your application?

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Thanks

We had it expedited so it took around 2 weeks. This for a Tier 2 Visa.


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[chronicle]

Thanks

We had it expedited so it took around 2 weeks. This for a Tier 2 Visa.


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Wow. That is fast. Good luck to you and your wife.


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[shadow]

Habol pa sa Royal wedding.


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[StockEngine]

Congrats!

FOCUS

[flakez]

Tagal na rin namin pinag-iisipan ni misis to. was planning for New Zealand before pero nagbago sila ng rule so yung course ni misis bumaba yung points and hindi siya umabot sa points na kelangan. And hindi rin kami sure rin kung gusto namin talaga. We are both doing well here, may bahay at kotse na rin and few investments. And problem namin pag nag migrate kami sa New Zealand hindi kami sure kung makukuha namin yung trabaho namin ngayon dito don. Maganda na rin salary namin dito so hindi rin basta basta pwede mamasukan as a blue collar kasi baka halos ganon lang din kitain namin mas mataas pa cost of living don. We are both IT professionals here.

For me and my wife ang main reason lang talaga namin is kung mas makakakuha ng mataas na rate and of course with respect sa cost of living don. Kumbaga dapat mas mabibili namin yung mga bagay na hindi namin kaya dito don.

Ang sinasabi naman ng mother ko is isipin ko na lang daw yung anak ko. Mas maganda raw pag don lumaki. Hindi ko masabi ako ba hindi mo napalaki ng maayos dito. hehe. As long as kaya mo pag-aralin anak mo dito, na sa kanya naman yan kung magtitino siya. And syempre makakatulong din kung sa magandang school. Kung nagawa nga natin maiangat buhay natin dito sa Pinas, what stops them from doing the same.

Hindi ko pa alam ang health insurance sa New Zealand kung libre ba o hindi. Pero kung employee ka naman madalas may HMO na. So hindi mo na rin gaano iisipin yun. Or you can get on your own kung businessman ka. Wag lang talaga tamaan ng malaking gastos.

Mas less risk ang pag migrate kung wala kang trabaho dito or blue collar worker ka. Madami ako relatives na walang trabaho dito na nag migrate ng Canada. Madali mga nakahanap ng trabaho don and nakabili na rin ng mga sasakyan at bahay. Kung dito pa rin sa pinas sigurado nga nga sila. hehe

Tumira din ako sa UK ng almost 1 year last year, ok naman ang cost of living basta hindi ka pala gala. Ang mahal talaga yung bahay. Pero mura kotse. hehe

[SpinCycle]

Tagal na rin namin pinag-iisipan ni misis to. was planning for New Zealand before pero nagbago sila ng rule so yung course ni misis bumaba yung points and hindi siya umabot sa points na kelangan. And hindi rin kami sure rin kung gusto namin talaga. We are both doing well here, may bahay at kotse na rin and few investments. And problem namin pag nag migrate kami sa New Zealand hindi kami sure kung makukuha namin yung trabaho namin ngayon dito don. Maganda na rin salary namin dito so hindi rin basta basta pwede mamasukan as a blue collar kasi baka halos ganon lang din kitain namin mas mataas pa cost of living don. We are both IT professionals here.

For me and my wife ang main reason lang talaga namin is kung mas makakakuha ng mataas na rate and of course with respect sa cost of living don. Kumbaga dapat mas mabibili namin yung mga bagay na hindi namin kaya dito don.

Ang sinasabi naman ng mother ko is isipin ko na lang daw yung anak ko. Mas maganda raw pag don lumaki. Hindi ko masabi ako ba hindi mo napalaki ng maayos dito. hehe. As long as kaya mo pag-aralin anak mo dito, na sa kanya naman yan kung magtitino siya. And syempre makakatulong din kung sa magandang school. Kung nagawa nga natin maiangat buhay natin dito sa Pinas, what stops them from doing the same.

Hindi ko pa alam ang health insurance sa New Zealand kung libre ba o hindi. Pero kung employee ka naman madalas may HMO na. So hindi mo na rin gaano iisipin yun. Or you can get on your own kung businessman ka. Wag lang talaga tamaan ng malaking gastos.

Mas less risk ang pag migrate kung wala kang trabaho dito or blue collar worker ka. Madami ako relatives na walang trabaho dito na nag migrate ng Canada. Madali mga nakahanap ng trabaho don and nakabili na rin ng mga sasakyan at bahay. Kung dito pa rin sa pinas sigurado nga nga sila. hehe

Tumira din ako sa UK ng almost 1 year last year, ok naman ang cost of living basta hindi ka pala gala. Ang mahal talaga yung bahay. Pero mura kotse. hehe

Have to agree with the price of houses and renting in the UK. Lalo na sa London. When I think how much we’re paying for rent here, we could easily amortize that into getting a condo in Greenbelt Residences.


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[_Qwerty_]

free health insurance sa NZ same with OZ..

[_Cathy_]

free health insurance sa NZ same with OZ..

This is one major factor why a lot of people prefer to move abroad. Canada maganda din ata health care

[Risha]

I've been ruminating on this idea for a few months now - my fiance and I can move to Australia, she can have her medical specialization there and I can work in our company's Australia office (or worst case I can find other jobs there). Then eventually have a family there and live a first-world life.

We've parked the idea and decided to just proceed with our lives here in the Philippines - I stay at my corporate job while my fiance finishes residency, then when she has stable income as a consultant, we can perhaps dabble into business.

But then I thought, what if I'm dreaming too small?

I had dinner with my college friends last night and one of my best buds is moving to the Netherlands on a permanent international assignment (local hire) for an FMCG multinational. He's planning to bring his girlfriend there too and propose, then live their married life there and eventually have kids. Another friend is waiting for his expat assignment in Singapore before settling down and popping the question.

The biggest benefit I see with living abroad is that our kids will have much more opportunities growing up. A first-world passport and first-world education will bring them places. And while the first few years of immigration are definitely gonna be hard, once you get established, you live a fairly easy first world life. Plus, doctors earn mega big bucks in Australia.

One drawback is the distance from family, but if you have a comfortable income, you can fly back to the Philippines several times a year anyway. A bigger concern is the risk - it's expensive to move, take the medical certification exam, find a job, and so on.

Anyway, for those who've tried living abroad, or have considered doing so - hope you can share your insights so I can have a better idea of everything that needs to be considered. Thanks!




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Been in US for 18 years now. Me and my husband visits PI every year and now that he is almost retiring we are thinking to move to PI for good. Life abroad is very difficult. You have to work hard to get what you need and wants. Wala pang katulong, i mean mahal. Lahat ikaw gagawa kahit na parehas kayong may work. Tapos yung rent/housing sobrang mahal din kahit na malaki ang sweldo mo. Kung meron kang pinag aralan sa pinas at may kaya na kayo or pwede kang mag negosyo or kung maganda trabaho mo. I’ll stay in PI

[shelu]

I've been ruminating on this idea for a few months now - my fiance and I can move to Australia, she can have her medical specialization there and I can work in our company's Australia office (or worst case I can find other jobs there). Then eventually have a family there and live a first-world life.

We've parked the idea and decided to just proceed with our lives here in the Philippines - I stay at my corporate job while my fiance finishes residency, then when she has stable income as a consultant, we can perhaps dabble into business.

But then I thought, what if I'm dreaming too small?

I had dinner with my college friends last night and one of my best buds is moving to the Netherlands on a permanent international assignment (local hire) for an FMCG multinational. He's planning to bring his girlfriend there too and propose, then live their married life there and eventually have kids. Another friend is waiting for his expat assignment in Singapore before settling down and popping the question.

The biggest benefit I see with living abroad is that our kids will have much more opportunities growing up. A first-world passport and first-world education will bring them places. And while the first few years of immigration are definitely gonna be hard, once you get established, you live a fairly easy first world life. Plus, doctors earn mega big bucks in Australia.

One drawback is the distance from family, but if you have a comfortable income, you can fly back to the Philippines several times a year anyway. A bigger concern is the risk - it's expensive to move, take the medical certification exam, find a job, and so on.

Anyway, for those who've tried living abroad, or have considered doing so - hope you can share your insights so I can have a better idea of everything that needs to be considered. Thanks!




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one word of caution, don't expect life is easy abroad. we tried living in london with the whole family (4 kids). me and my wife are working in hospital there. salary is good but earn pounds, spend pounds. environment is better, cool and clean. BUT college education for the kids is expensive. while we're there, life is really difficult, we were alone. laban, luto, gawaing bahay, inyo lahat. then, iba ang level nga trabaho doon, supervisor ka dito, simula ka sa pinaka mababa doon. and yes, though some people may not agree, racism is true. after 4 years there, we went home and life is even greater. mas masarap ang buhay dito. basta, di ko kaya ma explain kasi magka iba tayo ng priorities sa buhay. iba pa rin ang buhay sa pinas. marami pa ang kasabayan namin noon na gusto ng bumalik pero lubog sa utang sa abroad. just my 2 cents.. follow your hearts desire.

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[MR_BIG18]

one word of caution, don't expect life is easy abroad. we tried living in london with the whole family (4 kids). me and my wife are working in hospital there. salary is good but earn pounds, spend pounds. environment is better, cool and clean. BUT college education for the kids is expensive. while we're there, life is really difficult, we were alone. laban, luto, gawaing bahay, inyo lahat. then, iba ang level nga trabaho doon, supervisor ka dito, simula ka sa pinaka mababa doon. and yes, though some people may not agree, racism is true. after 4 years there, we went home and life is even greater. mas masarap ang buhay dito. basta, di ko kaya ma explain kasi magka iba tayo ng priorities sa buhay. iba pa rin ang buhay sa pinas. marami pa ang kasabayan namin noon na gusto ng bumalik pero lubog sa utang sa abroad. just my 2 cents.. follow your hearts desire.

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Laba, luto, linis din kami dito...wala din kaming maid..the difference is stress...mas madaling i manage dito..

[Yatta]

Laba, luto, linis din kami dito...wala din kaming maid..the difference is stress...mas madaling i manage dito..

My wife and I studied in Japan, so between us we spent a total of 10 years there. Mahirap, we have to do our own groceries/marketing, cooking, dishes, laundry and house cleaning. Not to mention the language barrier. Then when our son was born we both had to take care of him (walang yaya) and I still had to finish my dissertation. Luckily graduate na si misis noon and he was born 8 months before I was due to graduate anyway. Pero still it was hard.

[jut703]

Laba, luto, linis din kami dito...wala din kaming maid..the difference is stress...mas madaling i manage dito..

Pansin ko nga na common complaint yun about living abroad - na mag-isa ka to do your house chores.

Same tayo, wala rin kaming maid so doing house chores isn't new to me anymore.

I think the loneliness and starting at the bottom of the food chain are the bigger drawbacks of moving abroad.

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[minicarph]

Pansin ko nga na common complaint yun about living abroad - na mag-isa ka to do your house chores.

Same tayo, wala rin kaming maid so doing house chores isn't new to me anymore.

I think the loneliness and starting at the bottom of the food chain are the bigger drawbacks of moving abroad.

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when i was in Europe last may, despite my hectic schedule. I felt so lonely in the hotel pag 9pm na. It was Kassel Germany, I mean the place is so progressive, very nice scenes, landmarks. world class unesco heritage.

pero at the end of they day I felt so lonely. I felt that I did not belong to that place even though it so beautiful and magestic and the local Germans even had a car show in their town.


so dun ko na-realize na Europe, America they are for input for you, to change something in you so that when you go back to the Philippines, you're kinda refreshed, re-ergenized. but to imagine to live there for good, is like killing yourself as early as when you migrated.

ma-feel mo yan eh yan loneliness there is pain but not physical somewhat inner pain somewhat in the spiritual realm na why are you here, you cannot stay here its not compatible with your soul.

[SpinCycle]

one word of caution, don't expect life is easy abroad. we tried living in london with the whole family (4 kids). me and my wife are working in hospital there. salary is good but earn pounds, spend pounds. environment is better, cool and clean. BUT college education for the kids is expensive. while we're there, life is really difficult, we were alone. laban, luto, gawaing bahay, inyo lahat. then, iba ang level nga trabaho doon, supervisor ka dito, simula ka sa pinaka mababa doon. and yes, though some people may not agree, racism is true. after 4 years there, we went home and life is even greater. mas masarap ang buhay dito. basta, di ko kaya ma explain kasi magka iba tayo ng priorities sa buhay. iba pa rin ang buhay sa pinas. marami pa ang kasabayan namin noon na gusto ng bumalik pero lubog sa utang sa abroad. just my 2 cents.. follow your hearts desire.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. My wife and I just moved to London, and I do agree that kami ang gumagawa lahat ng chores: laba, grocery, luto, linis. Nagtry kami maghire ng cleaner pero hindi ako natuwa sa level ng linis. Iba pa rin ang linis ng Pilipino. Mahal na bayad, hindi ka pa matutuwa sa trabaho nila.

So now, my wife and I share the household chores. When I was in PH, never ako naglinis ng banyo but I've learned to do it over here.

And yes, racism still exists in some form or another. Some shops or restaurants don't prioritize you or provide you with less than stellar service than they would to a native Brit. Unfortunately, mababa talaga tingin ng ibang tao dito sa Pinoy.

This is why I strive harder in my job than the locals which actually impresses my bosses as my output is much higher than my colleagues. In a way, I hope this helps elevate us Pinoys in their eyes.

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[benchph1]

If i may just add, we pinoys must leave our onion skin attitude in PH and adopt an open mind when living/working abroad especially in 1st world countries.

No offense but people who say life is hard in other countries just cannot accept the fact that they are back to zero in the corporate ladder , they do household chores by themselves, they experienced racism, among many reasons..Situation will always be like this and always will be. Your fault is you did not research enough. Or, you can’t let go of your “onion skin attitude”

Now for those who loved their new life abroad, have adopted an open mind , looked past the difficulties and is always looking at the bigger picture.

For me, i am planning to migrate to NZ with my family, i am aware that i may take up blue collar jobs just to get by, i am aware that me & my wife will do everything ourselves, i am aware that anytime a local may call me a “brown monkey” to my face.

I just look at the bigger picture and remember why we decided to go here. That is to have a better future for our family.


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[shelu]

If i may just add, we pinoys must leave our onion skin attitude in PH and adopt an open mind when living/working abroad especially in 1st world countries.

No offense but people who say life is hard in other countries just cannot accept the fact that they are back to zero in the corporate ladder , they do household chores by themselves, they experienced racism, among many reasons..Situation will always be like this and always will be. Your fault is you did not research enough. Or, you can’t let go of your “onion skin attitude”

Now for those who loved their new life abroad, have adopted an open mind , looked past the difficulties and is always looking at the bigger picture.

For me, i am planning to migrate to NZ with my family, i am aware that i may take up blue collar jobs just to get by, i am aware that me & my wife will do everything ourselves, i am aware that anytime a local may call me a “brown monkey” to my face.

I just look at the bigger picture and remember why we decided to go here. That is to have a better future for our family.


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to be honest, me and my wife came from a poor family and onion skin attitude that you talked about means nothing to us. di kami balat sibuyas kaya bumalik kami dito sa atin. as I said, we have different priorities. we found out the hard way that being close to our families is more important than financial security. and sometimes, we can have both.

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