Moving Abroad - Why or Why Not?

[maxpedition]

Tanungin nyo mga immigrants kung saan nila gusto ilibing. Sagot nila lagi "sa Pinas parin".

Iba pa din talaga dito satin. [emoji106]

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[SpinCycle]

It will definitely be very challenging the first few years for both you and your fiancee as you might be working an entry level job (unless you can convince your company to transfer you or find a company that will take in your PH work experience into consideration) and she'll be concentrating on her specialization.

My wife and I are currently working on our visa requirements to London as she has accepted an expat assignment (intra-office relocation). Hopefully, I can convince my current company to allow me to work remotely from London (even if I have to adjust to AU time). Otherwise, I'll have to initially look for odd jobs (barista, store clerk, fitness instructor, etc.) as well as online work (English tutoring, proof-reading, editing, testing, etc.)

I feel both excited and pensive about moving as I know it will be a very good opportunity for my wife yet we'll be leaving my friends and family and living in a very unfamiliar place.

My friends are teasing us that I'll finally be living the dream of being a "houseband". I don't find the term demeaning at all as I'll be supporting my wife's career albeit unconventionally. And I'll be searching for jobs to supplement her income so we can have a comfortable life with the occasional nice dinner, vacation and of course, my wife's luho (athleisure gear, shoes, ang bags )

[Hadlee]

Basta ang advice ko, whatever you decide on stick on it and don't look back and think of what might have been, could have been.

[dreamur]

You can visit quora.com and hear first hand experience from immigrants all over the world. Just a word of caution bro - our profession in PH does not mean a lot overseas.

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[travajante]

Common stories. Movers use kids & their future as justification. They would meet misery initially & eventually acclimate, survive, adapt. Many would imagine their moving temporary, constantly dreaming of & longing for a permanent return....someday soon....Only to realize then that this wasn't the place they remembered nor wanted anymore. Fact is... it's them who'd have changed so much & too far from who they used to be.
Mind & vision do play tricks....Truth is, the grass can be any color you want wherever.
I went where He pointed me. His wind blows my sails to this very day. Pray, discern & listen hard, jut sir. He does whisper & more.[emoji4]

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[Archerfish]

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Many would imagine their moving temporary, constantly dreaming of & longing for a permanent return....someday soon....Only to realize then that this wasn't the place they remembered nor wanted anymore.

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I went where He pointed me. His wind blows my sails to this very day. Pray, discern & listen hard, jut sir. He does whisper & more.[emoji4]

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Sounds corny... but my take is to pray for it that you may have the discernment and that you may choose wisely.

So I've heard,

"The next saddest person is the one who climbs up the ladder and reaches the top, only to realize that the ladder is leaning on the wrong side of the wall."

Be certain that they will consider you as college graduate not trade school graduate, bro. So you may need to "go to school" for 2 more years there.

Also, 6 months of local work experience is typically required, which means volunteer work. So better, if Intercompany transfer

The same thing with my brother in-law (Dubai or Singapore, I can't recall), he spent about two years working as an assistant until he was "recognized". Surely, you can make it whatever position you'll get.

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Every immigrant I know from here always mentions loneliness at some point.

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This may not be an issue for you so much compared to me as a family man. I missed my wife, my kids, and "the way" my kids went out...

Some of my colleagues would jokingly say that I can "get" another girl without any issues​ at all. Besides, who will know except me? I can't and I can't do it. So, I've been faithful to my wife for the past 24 years of our married life.

Again, this is not an issue for you.

Go for it, the transition is easier when you don't have kids yet.

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I agree, it is just you and only you who will adjust. Well, this is the same with your fiance. Since you will be with her, it should be "easier" as you have someone to talk to anytime.

Finally, I do hope you'll teach me everything about racing before you go! Honestly, I was hoping that you'll be friends with my two grown-up kids or even be an acquaintance to them. My wife and I really likes you.

Congratulations on your new journey!

[urbanmetal]

Whatever you do, don't exclude God from the equation. Seek His purpose and plan. Long story short, works for me everytime.

[dreamur]

And dont forget to complete IELTS. Surely passing will not be a problem for you.

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[shadow]

And it doesn't mean if you're successfully here it will be the same there. Not saying you can't do it.

Hinde lahat hard work and dedication minsan kailangan din ng swerte.


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[jut703]

Hi Ts, Im living abroad with my family for more than a decade now. First 11 and half years in SIngapore then some changes makes us move here in AUstralia, we 2 kids both girls. In our case once we decided to migrate the thought of grass abroad is more greener.
To he honest its really more fun in the Philippines, my heart was always saying go home, lol
Its maybe just me, but a lot of pinoys once u have a good chat with them they feel same if they have the PUHUNAN to start a good negosyu they will give it a go.
Sometimes its really difficult to decide specially on your case looks either way you will do well bro, u stay in pinas or move here in down under. Kami we prefer here in down under vs singapore, life here is more laidback and time is a little bit slow. But again of course I still love Philippines.

Why not give it a try while still no kids, its more flexible to migrate while only u and fiance. My advice is always have your plan B, in case you and fiance wont like it u always have option. [emoji5]


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Bro thanks for sharing your first-hand experience. My fiance and I were talking about it last night and it seems that we'll both be happier staying here.

Money might be better there and our future kids will have a leg up with first-world education, but it's not like we're living in poverty in the Philippines. Most likely we'll still be able to send our kids to good schools here as well.

Biggest clincher is really the close proximity to family and friends. I know that flights are cheaper now but iba pa rin yung random dinner with the barkada or weekend lunches with the family.

Money is good but happiness is more important methinks.

Be certain that they will consider you as college graduate not trade school graduate, bro. So you may need to "go to school" for 2 more years there.

Also, 6 months of local work experience is typically required, which means volunteer work. So better, if Intercompany transfer

That's the problem bro, the timing of our careers aren't in sync. For my fiance, the move has to be next year, right after she passes her med boards and before her residency so that she can have her residency training there.

For me, it will be at least 5 years before I can ask for an expat assignment and eventual local hire. My line of work is very specific to the Philippines so I'll have to move departments first and then prove my mettle there before being sent abroad.

It's a bit of a hassle because I've planned out my life here so I'll be changing so much just to move, and I have no idea whatsoever on where to start and on what the future holds for me there.

a word of caution on pinoy doctors working in australia. baka ma-frustrate ang gf mo kasi afaik pinoy doctors rarely work as doctors in au. karamihan they work as nurses or whatever field their pre-med course was (biologist, pharmacist, med tech). the info i got from our neighbor before was they keep changing the requirements for foreign educated/trained doctors so even if you work as a doctor in au now it is no guarantee you will be allowed to work as a doctor tomorrow. yan ang nangyari sa kanya, they hired him as an anaesthesiologist but now he is working as a nurse because they added requirements that involves him taking more than 1 year from work to earn. sabagay kung wala ka pa anak kaya naman kaso pag pamilyado ka na mahirapan ka.

Same with my tito. None of his training in the Philippines was counted so he had to start from scratch and never got to practice as a doctor in AU. Kaya naisip ko, magastos and sobrang effort din so it has to be worth it and we have to both really want it.

Sounds corny... but my take is to pray for it that you may have the discernment and that you may choose wisely.

So I've heard,

"The next saddest person is the one who climbs up the ladder and reaches the top, only to realize that the ladder is leaning on the wrong side of the wall."





The same thing with my brother in-law (Dubai or Singapore, I can't recall), he spent about two years working as an assistant until he was "recognized". Surely, you can make it whatever position you'll get.




This may not be an issue for you so much compared to me as a family man. I missed my wife, my kids, and "the way" my kids went out...

Some of my colleagues would jokingly say that I can "get" another girl without any issues​ at all. Besides, who will know except me? I can't and I can't do it. So, I've been faithful to my wife for the past 24 years of our married life.

Again, this is not an issue for you.

I agree, it is just you and only you who will adjust. Well, this is the same with your fiance. Since you will be with her, it should be "easier" as you have someone to talk to anytime.

Finally, I do hope you'll teach me everything about racing before you go! Honestly, I was hoping that you'll be friends with my two grown-up kids or even be an acquaintance to them. My wife and I really likes you.

Congratulations on your new journey!

Don't worry bro, we still have several rounds of racing this year. And it looks like I'm inclined to stay anyway. I'd love to hang out with your kids and wife too. [emoji106]

And it doesn't mean if you're successfully here it will be the same there. Not saying you can't do it.

Hinde lahat hard work and dedication minsan kailangan din ng swerte.


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Yan din naisip ko. I start from zero there. Wala akong competitive advantage whatsoever, I'll be just like every other Filipino na nakipagsapalaran sa ibang bansa. Most naman are successful, but "success" is usually defined as getting a stable entry/mid level job. May racial ceiling pa rin dun and you can only get so far. Of course, malaki sweldo but then again kung swertehin din naman dito sa pinas maraming negosyanteng mas malaki pa kita kaysa mga corporate managers sa ibang bansa (parang ikaw ninong [emoji16]).

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[jut703]

Thanks for the responses everyone. I realized something when I began reading your replies - I was looking forward to read about reasons to stay rather than reasons to go. I guess that means I'm inclined to stay.

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[GTcervan]

Totoo ba ito? According to a friend, madami daw ahas at gagamba na puwede dumapo sa loob ng mga bahay sa AUS tapos yung mga kangaroo daw diyan akala mo matitikas ang katawan, yung tipong maiisip mo na boksingero sila dahil ubod ng muscle ang mga braso nila. 😂

[Wh1stl3r]

^
This is a good summary:

37 Pictures That Prove Australia Is The Land Of Nope

[GTcervan]

^
This is a good summary:

37 Pictures That Prove Australia Is The Land Of Nope

Pretty scary. So if it's not criminals that have found a way inside your house somehow, then it's those freaking creepy insects or animals that will make you cower and tremble in fear. 😱

[Egan101]

Many times I was presented the opportunity to be working full time in other countries. After living in the US for a few years, my wife and I decided that there are more reasons to stay here.


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[travajante]

Have you ever pondered why each was assigned a respective birthplace?
There must be some divine plan, purpose & reason....
What if this here were to be our mission....or cleansing purgatory?
Would you defy the assignment, escape, find temporary relief elsewhere,.... & gamble on the next-life raffle?
Or would you suck it up, stay, serve the sentence full, prove worthy..... & hopefully earn happy ever after?
What if???? Which would you????[emoji4]

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[Egan101]

In some parts of Florida, there are cases of alligators getting inside homes. In some states in Western US, farmers use rifles to fend off coyotes feeding off pets and livestock. In the Northwest and Alaska, people watch out for bears.


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[benchph1]

Why? Because i have experienced to live abroad. And i feel we filipinos deserve better.

Why not? Kakamiss din family happenings. Every time may occasion, hanggang pictures ka na lang.


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[Egan101]

It all boils down to the support system being available out here. When we’re living in Chicago, my wife decided not to work and just watch over our daughter. We are not so sure about day care and when she does go to work, what she earns will just pay for day care (around 500+ dollars a week). We do have family friends there but it’s like a 30-minute drive.


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[baludoy]

^^ that's why some pinoy immigrants invite and bring over their parents for months at a time just to look after their kids.