Job Prospects in the Time of Corona Virus?

[_Cathy_]

When our titles got promoted, nawalan na ng dating yung title. So now I want the title of the next band level - so I'm more for the exclusivity than the title.

So salary > exclusivity > title for me hehe.

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True, kaya I also want the AVP role kasi konti lang AVPs samin at bihira ang "take 1", mostly bagsak on the first try

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[_Cathy_]

Curious, ano structure ng managerial positions sa banko? A friend once told me lahat daw VP - AVP, VP, SVP, EVP, etc etc. Asking because I think hindi siya exactly the same as FMCG or other industries.

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Local bank:

Staff (level 1 to 5)
Junior AM (level 1 to 3)
AM
M (level 1 to 2)
SM
AVP
SAVP
VP
FVP
SVP
EVP
SEVP

and so on

if i may,

decent salary + security = the better scenario.

title? it won't buy a single pandesal from french baker...
but that's just me.

so, my question to the post-er is,
which office offers the security part?

dr, wala naman ako prospect na ibang company. Fear ko nga wala ako makukuha na job kasi I am almost 40 na.

Sa current ko kasi I am a manager but I am for promotion na to AVP, but because our department got dissolved, that's gone na. But my current VP used his network din and informed management that I was lined up for AVP, pero HR constraint na since I will be in a new role (if I accept) 1 yr minimum pa before I get it

[Sarsi]

Our company recently upgraded our titles so malapit na kami sa banking nomenclature. Kaso walang salary increase. Sabi ko kahit rank and file ang title ko basta sweldo ko mataas, kaso baliktad eh. [emoji28]

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Nung panahon namin, ang sabi namin kay LBL, ayaw namin ng plake, gusto namin pangkape [emoji16]

[misseksaherada]

Ok talaga ang mag-stay..
Pero.. pero...
Kung 100% decided na sya mag-resign next year for US.. And 100% na may guarantee yung package.. 11 years.. Naku instant milyonaryo.. Dami pera nun hehehe.. [emoji16]
Kaysa mag-stay tapos hindi sustainable pala yung new pakikisama sa bagong colleagues, role na hindi trip, nakakainip na paghihintay for promotion.. Tapos mapapa-resign dahil dun.. Sayang..
Talo kapag mag-resign lang VS. redundancy package..
Kung mag-stay sya... minimun 2 years staying powers and 2 years amount of patience yun..

[_Cathy_]

Whenever I hit a crossroad, I use Waze.

Stay, dont worry you will get your redundancy package the moment they think your no longer needed.
At your age, start planning your retirement and bucket list, you must have a job to do these.

If I lose this chance to get redundancy, malabo na kasi our company does not want to redundate talaga, malaki kasi cost nyan and management also wants me to stay

Pag nagre reflect nga ko, napaisip ko sinabi ng friend ko na we only have X number of productivity/working years (40 from 20 yrs old to 60 yrs old) I am almost halfway na (16 yrs) wala pa rin ako naipupundar na kahit ano

In general nga, nothing is great in my life EXCEPT for my job, nawala pa

Eto yung glaring eh. If not for this, I'd say stay din.

So ang mangyayari kelangan mo din magresign next year either sa same company or new, tama ba? Eh di ganun din. You will still eventually be looking for a new job amidst the pandemic, wala ka pang package.

If "sure" yung package, dun ako. Again, if sure. Taking your time off, working on your self while waiting to fly to the US sounds like a good idea. Feeling ko kapag nakapagreflect ka, feel better about yourself, that will be good for you. You might even meet someone new. We're more attractive when we're happier diba. In the meantime pwede ka magbusiness sa shopee. Malay mo diba.

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Yes, kasi magre resign naman talaga ako. Sa current boss ko kasi, okay sa kanya mag long leave ulit ako so I don't lose my green card pero sa lilipatan ko na ibang department, wala ng papayag nyan, kasi exceptional arrangement lang naman kami ng VP ko. Also, another HR technicality, hindi pwede long leave pag bago sa position. I plan to resign kasi mid next year, tapos stay ako sa US for a few months tapos balik ulit

cat

kung pupunta ka ng US, wag ka na bumalik.

note the chat replay....

Not interested to watch baby in chief and his sycophants. I only saw 1 person wearing a mask

Why shouldn't I go back to Manila? Chat replay na puro Trump 2020

[_Cathy_]

Lapit na deadline di na ata abot ito.. Nag check na po ba kayo Ms. Cathy ng job opening sa ibang companies? Depende po sa demand nung position na target nyo.. Baka naman po In-Demand kahit may COVID-19.. Grab nyo na ang package tutal ayaw nyo naman dun sa position na inaalok sa inyo.. Maghanap na lang ng bago kung madali lang naman mag-apply.. Mahirap mag-work kapag hindi swak yung role tapos hindi mo din trip magiging katrabaho mo..

I have until tomorrow. Literally masakit ulo ko ngayon

Here you are queen.

In the US you are?

Stay.

Ayoko talaga manirahan sa US but I don't wanna lose my green card kaya I have to go back talaga Mas gusto ko pa rin talaga mag work dito

Even my Kuya said, sa ugali ko, iiyak daw ako sa US kasi hindi ako sanay sa pressure at pagod (true) Sa current job ko, 1 week in a month lang ako pagod.

Cathy after a few months...

"I should've taken the money" :D

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Ang ayokong sabihin either "I should have taken the money" OR "I should have accepted the role"

Ok talaga ang mag-stay..
Pero.. pero...
Kung 100% decided na sya mag-resign next year for US.. And 100% na may guarantee yung package.. 11 years.. Naku instant milyonaryo.. Dami pera nun hehehe.. [emoji16]
Kaysa mag-stay tapos hindi sustainable pala yung new pakikisama sa bagong colleagues, role na hindi trip, nakakainip na paghihintay for promotion.. Tapos mapapa-resign dahil dun.. Sayang..
Talo kapag mag-resign lang VS. redundancy package..
Kung mag-stay sya... minimun 2 years staying powers and 2 years amount of patience yun..

Yan din naisip ko kasi magre resign naman na talaga ako. Long overdue na, dapat nung 2019 pa ko nag resign pero love ko kasi yung boss and role ko, kaya nga bumalik pa ko ng Pilipinas kasi I love my job talaga (among other factors such as family and crush heehee)

BUT china virus changed everything, baka naman hindi rin ako makabalik ng US kung sasarhan nila yung bansa sa flights. Also, I don't wanna be jobless for long, yan na nga lang isa sa mga bagay that I can be proud of (I have a career)

Flattered din ako na my Kuya and Crush thinks I have a nice job, mga idols ko sila Kuya ko dahilan bakit nakapasok ako sa dream company ko

[_Cathy_]

Mom ko tinatanong ko, as usual whatever my decision is daw. Mahirap din wala si Daddy at brother ko

Swerte din mga housewife, walang iniisip na career. I never thought I would say this pero kahit naging asawa ko si crush, I would have stayed in this job until retirement kung hindi kami na outsource. It's perfect I still don't understand bakit kailangan mawala. My heart is so broken

Bihira na lang yung masaya talaga sa trabajo nila

Sa buhay ko talaga, happiness is fleeting

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[dr. d]

Local bank:

Staff (level 1 to 5)
Junior AM (level 1 to 3)
AM
M (level 1 to 2)
SM
AVP
SAVP
VP
FVP
SVP
EVP
SEVP

and so on




dr, wala naman ako prospect na ibang company. Fear ko nga wala ako makukuha na job kasi I am almost 40 na.

Sa current ko kasi I am a manager but I am for promotion na to AVP, but because our department got dissolved, that's gone na. But my current VP used his network din and informed management that I was lined up for AVP, pero HR constraint na since I will be in a new role (if I accept) 1 yr minimum pa before I get it

i am not into private business processes.
so here is my understanding.

your current employers want to offer you a good position, but they are not sure if they can bring it to fruition ?

in lieu of waiting for the promised position, your other choice is retirement, then perhaps look for another position elsewhere, should the opportunity arise ?

[_Cathy_]

i am not into private business processes.
so here is my understanding.

your current employers want to offer you a good position, but they are not sure if they can bring it to fruition ?

in lieu of waiting for the promised position, your other choice is retirement, then perhaps look for another position elsewhere, should the opportunity arise ?

No doctor

Other staff have been offered redundancy na but my employers want to keep me in the company so they offered me several roles (which I have rejected) on a lateral transfer so I can stay in the organization. I was lined up for promotion to AVP this year but since our department was dissolved, everyone due for promotion are disqualified na. If I transfer to another department, I have to start all over, BUT, my current VP talked to Manila leadership that I am lined up na, pero HR technicality means I have to wait one more year. I think that is too long to wait, and I plan to resign din naman mid 2021.

Na exhaust na all positions and the last one I was given until June 30 to decide if I want it or not. Otherwise, I THINK HR will offer me a redundancy package na, since they don't allow floating anymore.

Redundancy is 1.5 months of salary per year of service TAX free PLUS retiremet

Resignation - retirement only

[dr. d]

No doctor

Other staff have been offered redundancy na but my employers want to keep me in the company so they offered me several roles (which I have rejected) on a lateral transfer so I can stay in the organization. I was lined up for promotion to AVP this year but since our department was dissolved, everyone due for promotion are disqualified na. If I transfer to another department, I have to start all over, BUT, my current VP talked to Manila leadership that I am lined up na, pero HR technicality means I have to wait one more year. I think that is too long to wait, and I plan to resign din naman mid 2021.

Na exhaust na all positions and the last one I was given until June 30 to decide if I want it or not. Otherwise, I THINK HR will offer me a redundancy package na, since they don't allow floating anymore.

Redundancy is 1.5 months of salary per year of service TAX free PLUS retiremet

Resignation - retirement only

so they are offering you a position, but which you may occupy only next year?
what happens to you during the waiting period?
will you still be drawing salary? if so, that'd be great.
will you be offered redundancy package by the company, but come middle of 2021 you will start working again in the company? that sounds good also. retire... pension... and at the end of a year, may lump sum na, may pension pa, and back to work ulit! and considering covid, if i were me, that one year vacation during the kasagsagan ng covid would be fine with me.

now,
if i were the company, and i were pushing the heavens to get you a position in my company,
and you would be resigning pala from the company in the near future...
i-the-company would feel bad.

[_Cathy_]

so they are offering you a position, but which you may occupy only next year?

They want me in the new role (projects department) as soon as I make my decision, so I could transfer by July 1. But I will transfer laterally/same title which is manager, next year pa ko pwede mag AVP

what happens to you during the waiting period?

N/A

will you still be drawing salary? if so, that'd be great.

Yes 100% full salary kami, bait nga company namin work from home until July 30 na full salary, only 5% are allowed to come in at work IF they want

will you be offered redundancy package by the company, but come middle of 2021 you will start working again in the company? that sounds good also. retire... pension... and at the end of a year, may lump sum na, may pension pa, and back to work ulit! and considering covid, if i were me, that one year vacation during the kasagsagan ng covid would be fine with me.

Yes. If I accept the role offered to me by the projects department, I will lose the redundancy package, less than 1% chance for me to get that again, kasi malabo madissolve ang projects department. I will still resign mid of 2021 so I only get retirement

If I accept the redundancy, then I plan to be pahinga until December 2020 and apply for jobs. Ideally I want to work Jan 2021 then resign again after 6 mos and go to the US then come back after a few months, then look for a new job again

now,
if i were the company, and i were pushing the heavens to get you a position in my company,
and you would be resigning pala from the company in the near future...
i-the-company would feel bad.

Yes doctor, sabi nga ni crush pinapaasa ko lang management with what I am doing. And I do appreciate that they are moving heaven and earth for me, kaya hirap din ako to leave this company because of the management and the staff. Vocal naman sila na gusto nila ako, may staff pa nga nagsabi na palipat na siya department pag wala na ko, ayaw nila sa India (LOL) I have to admit that I do spoil them sometimes kasi ako na gumagawa or nagre resolve ng discrepancies sa reports nila, lenient ako sa deadline at masipag din ako magbigay ng feedback sa managers IF I like the quality of their work. Kaya I warned them pag alis ko, hindi na pwede ang dating gawain. Even my counterparts abroad same feedback din na wag daw ako umalis. Naiiyak talaga ako when I think about it. And of course my bosses, galing na mismo sa bibig nila yun they want to lose me in the organization. [U]This is a company where I feel good about myself because I get appreciation and respect

*I need to transfer all OT posts later

[dr. d]

so why do you want to leave the company?
i seem to have gotten lost on that one.

US?
yes, that about answers it.
and because of that,
i have no answers for you.
that calls for really long vision.

[shadow]

Nakakasira ng mata yun colored reply mo cathy. Ang sakit sa mata


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[sean-archer]

so why do you want to leave the company?
i seem to have gotten lost on that one.

US?
yes, that about answers it.
and because of that,
i have no answers for you.
that calls for really long vision.

Relax ka lang doc, na eentertain mo nanaman ako. Hehe

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[dr. d]

Relax ka lang doc, na eentertain mo nanaman ako. Hehe

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she has a real problem.
some folks i know, just close their eyes and proceed with the latter choice.
lakas-loob na lang at bahala na si diana prince.

[ray_noel]

she has a real problem.
some folks i know, just close their eyes and proceed with the latter choice.
lakas-loob na lang at bahala na si diana prince.

Naghihintay lang ng signs siguro... like pag si crush nag i love you redundancy na ako ka-agad and will do work out for the rest of the year to gain back my youthful confidence... [emoji4][emoji3577]


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[_Cathy_]

so why do you want to leave the company?
i seem to have gotten lost on that one.

US?
yes, that about answers it.
and because of that,
i have no answers for you.
that calls for really long vision.

Because it's my particular role and boss that I love in the company. My boss gives me a lot of "perks" that other bosses in our company don't give to their staff. My boss is based in headquarters kasi so he cans sort of over rule some of the procedures in Manila.

When I transfer to a new department, hindi na pwede yung work from home or come in anytime I want because I need to submit a time sheet na. Currently I am exempted from this. Also, my boss lets me do whatever I want, I practically have full autonomy in my job talaga, kaya I like na puro VPs din ka interact ko, whatever needs his approval, he does not question me. This is a dream set up talaga and all my colleagues tell me I am so lucky talaga.

So if I am going to adjust to a new boss, mahihirapan lang din man ako, might as well do it in a new company with higher pay.

Re US, if my department did not get dissolved, may usapan na talaga kami ng boss ko na every year I need to take a long vacation so I don't lose my green card, again, hindi ko magagawa yan sa ibang boss

she has a real problem.
some folks i know, just close their eyes and proceed with the latter choice.
lakas-loob na lang at bahala na si diana prince.

What is the latter choice? Go to the US? My Kuya got mad at me nga telling me I don't really have a problem and I am lucky to work in a good company, pero para sakin problem to lose my boss, I have a problem with change and I like my comfort zone

Naghihintay lang ng signs siguro... like pag si crush nag i love you redundancy na ako ka-agad and will do work out for the rest of the year to gain back my youthful confidence... [emoji4][emoji3577]

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Medyo nadi disappoint ako kay crush when he says he can't call me.

Minsan nga tanungin ko ng derecho if he's going out with another woman, kasi alam ko wala siya GF, e malay ko ba kung may iba siyang napupusuan? Siguro yun ang kausap or kasama niya araw araw, kung manggaling na sa kanya derecho, then we are done na.

Pero yeah, yung time off ko, balak ko talaga ma improve sarili ko, kasi mahirap maghanap ng work ng pangit :P Baka sakali magsisi si crush sa pinakawalan niya haha!

[_Cathy_]

Maraming magagalit sakin

[glenn_duke]

Maraming magagalit sakin

So you quit?

[_Cathy_]

So you quit?

Yeah. I'll reject the position na. I won't be able get a long leave kasi to go to the US. Pero I will ask if I can reapply after a year or two

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