Job Prospects in the Time of Corona Virus?

[_Cathy_]

Cathy sabi ng cousin mo mag online seller ka nalang

Lagot talaga ko when he finds out that I did not stay in the company. Ang future ko daw online seller sa facebook LOL! Those people earn a lot of money kaya! But I think it should be a sideline, iba pa rin yung prestige ng corporate.

[dr. d]

They will pay you lump sum early retirement and then you can come back pa after? Highly doubtful. Its like they paid you millions to go on vacation. No company does that

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some of my college classmates did something like that.
they were advised by the company to retire, with full honors.
then they were re-hired by the same company under another job label, but doing exactly what they were doing before retirement.
may suweldo na, may lump sum/pension pa.

sometimes, i think i went to the wrong profession...

[EQAddict]

Must have been very demoralizing then for the people who stayed behind while seeing their peers get paid handsomely to leave and come back.

That is an idiotic and wasteful practice. Imagine being the owner of a company and finding out:

1. Your HR offers a generous lump sum early retirement package to employees as part of a cost savings plan for the future.

2. Several people avail of it and you pay them their millions. The plan is you also get to lower your headcount and opex or replace older and more expensive people with younger and more affordable ones.


3. One year later you rehire these early retired employees and with the same salary or better.



Whats the logic there? Early retirement packages are mechanisms to help the company save money in the long term and care for the employees affected.

In the example you gave, the company just threw away money and paid for free and expensive vacations. They also didnt lower their costs, nor get fresh blood.

There is also the morale factor to consider. Those that stayed behind will feel short changed and resentful. I should know. It happened once or twice in my company until the big bosses got wind of it and told HR to never repeat it.


It happens i get it. But its unfair, wasteful and downright incompetent on the part of HR.


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[_Cathy_]

Fck my life

I just had a 2 hour call with the director of projects. It was supposed to be a 30 min call for me to explain why I am rejecting the role. I think she knew that I was going to reject the role so when I said that I am not a technical person, she said her team is diverse so I can choose to do other roles.

I told her I want the AVP role and I don't think I can get it in her team since there is an HR constraint na minimum tenure - she said she will give me a big ticket project and will ask for the help of the director in headquarters to endorse me so I can get it 2021 OMG!!

Then I told her I need to go to the US for 3 to 4 mos and she said she will hire a temporary person as backfill daw while I am away

I was also very flattered because she said she needs my expertise in the team at may branding na daw ako sa company (thank God that our counterparts always drop my name when it comes to my specialization)

She also told me that my VP boss now will be disappointed if she is not able to hire me because my VP called her to make sure that I am retained in the company

OMG!!! So many reasons to stay! SET NA KO to get my package but now Director is making it hard for me! She is asking me to please stay and help her implement her projects muna. Tuturuan din ako sa agile methodology which will make me more marketable daw. I will also learn SAP 4 HANA, kasi now SAP R3 pa samin LOL

I don't know what is the right decision anymore

[ray_noel]

Fck my life

I just had a 2 hour call with the director of projects. It was supposed to be a 30 min call for me to explain why I am rejecting the role. I think she knew that I was going to reject the role so when I said that I am not a technical person, she said her team is diverse so I can choose to do other roles.

I told her I want the AVP role and I don't think I can get it in her team since there is an HR constraint na minimum tenure - she said she will give me a big ticket project and will ask for the help of the director in headquarters to endorse me so I can get it 2021 OMG!!

Then I told her I need to go to the US for 3 to 4 mos and she said she will hire a temporary person as backfill daw while I am away

I was also very flattered because she said she needs my expertise in the team at may branding na daw ako sa company (thank God that our counterparts always drop my name when it comes to my specialization)

She also told me that my VP boss now will be disappointed if she is not able to hire me because my VP called her to make sure that I am retained in the company

OMG!!! So many reasons to stay! SET NA KO to get my package but now Director is making it hard for me! She is asking me to please stay and help her implement her projects muna. Tuturuan din ako sa agile methodology which will make me more marketable daw. I will also learn SAP 4 HANA, kasi now SAP R3 pa samin LOL

I don't know what is the right decision anymore

Oi SAP professional kana? Hehehe... been there... Yeah SAP HANA is what most of the industry is availing now... go for it na... SAP originate from Germany, they might send you there for trAining... [emoji108]


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[Gumusut_Amige]

Fck my life

She also told me that my VP boss now will be disappointed if she is not able to hire me because my VP called her to make sure that I am retained in the company

told you about this... kaya mo bang i-disappoint ang VP boss mo?

[dr. d]

Fck my life

I just had a 2 hour call with the director of projects. It was supposed to be a 30 min call for me to explain why I am rejecting the role. I think she knew that I was going to reject the role so when I said that I am not a technical person, she said her team is diverse so I can choose to do other roles.

I told her I want the AVP role and I don't think I can get it in her team since there is an HR constraint na minimum tenure - she said she will give me a big ticket project and will ask for the help of the director in headquarters to endorse me so I can get it 2021 OMG!!

Then I told her I need to go to the US for 3 to 4 mos and she said she will hire a temporary person as backfill daw while I am away

I was also very flattered because she said she needs my expertise in the team at may branding na daw ako sa company (thank God that our counterparts always drop my name when it comes to my specialization)

She also told me that my VP boss now will be disappointed if she is not able to hire me because my VP called her to make sure that I am retained in the company

OMG!!! So many reasons to stay! SET NA KO to get my package but now Director is making it hard for me! She is asking me to please stay and help her implement her projects muna. Tuturuan din ako sa agile methodology which will make me more marketable daw. I will also learn SAP 4 HANA, kasi now SAP R3 pa samin LOL

I don't know what is the right decision anymore

it would seem,
they're bending the brick wall just for you.
they're giving you everything you ask for.

take it, go to the US, and come back, as scheduled.
you can always resign later, if you are still professionally unhappy.

[_Cathy_]

Oi SAP professional kana? Hehehe... been there... Yeah SAP HANA is what most of the industry is availing now... go for it na... SAP originate from Germany, they might send you there for trAining... [emoji108]


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That is why I considered na i forego lump sum para maka transfer dito. I want to learn SAP Hana kasi saka tuturuan pa ko ng agile system

told you about this... kaya mo bang i-disappoint ang VP boss mo?

I don't want to disappoint him pero may pagkukulang din siya.

[Egan101]

During these thriving times, you just feel good that you still have a job. Unless of course, you just live like a bum sustaining on the wealth of your parents. Hehehe


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[shadow]

Indecisiveness will cost you, everything and everyone has breaking point.


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[_Cathy_]

it would seem,
they're bending the brick wall just for you.
they're giving you everything you ask for.

take it, go to the US, and come back, as scheduled.
you can always resign later, if you are still professionally unhappy.

Yes they did the same last year when I went to the US. Ang habang discussion nun, just as so they can keep my headcount while I am away (that has cost kasi) All my friends are saying that nga, na they give me everything and I am so thankful.

dr, I love my job kaya I am always happy to help and I love an audience I guess people see through that. Minsan kahit hindi ko work, ginagawa ko. Just today:

Indecisiveness will cost you, everything and everyone has breaking point.


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SUPER patient nung AVP sa Manila who coordinates with HR, yung June 30 deadline ko umabot na ng July 15 hahaha! I feel so bad nga kasi siya ang naiipit pero she is still very kind to me. Hiyang hiya na ko sa kanya so I am making my decision now.

[marky2115]

^Exactly. Take the new role now or you'll just disappoint everyone who moved mountains just to retain you. You have to move on, step away from your comfort zone.

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[_Cathy_]

^Exactly. Take the new role now or you'll just disappoint everyone who moved mountains just to retain you. You have to move on, step away from your comfort zone.

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Hiyang hiya ako sa kanila I hope they would understand my decision

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[_Cathy_]

I really hate my life. I'm such a failure in everything. I had to lose the one thing going great in my life.

Wala na ko plano sa buhay. I'll just let myself rot here. Wala na ko ka gana gana.

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[travajante]

I really hate my life. I'm such a failure in everything. I had to lose the one thing going great in my life.

Wala na ko plano sa buhay. I'll just let myself rot here. Wala na ko ka gana gana.

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You do realize majority out there would gladly trade places w/ you, don't you? Count em blessings....they're way weightier than misery.[emoji120]

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[_Cathy_]

You do realize majority out there would gladly trade places w/ you, don't you? Count em blessings....they're way weightier than misery.[emoji120]

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If you knew my life story, no. I really don't know what I did to deserve this miserable life.

[dr. d]

If you knew my life story, no. I really don't know what I did to deserve this miserable life.

what's miserable about it?
from what i understand, it's "miserable" only because it is not going in the direction you want.
is it possible, it's going in the direction that you will actually benefit from? in ways you probably have not yet fathomed?
is it possible, you are mistaking "confused" or "overwhelmed" for "miserable" ?

you're just outside of your comfort zone, that's why.

travs is right.
the blessings are knocking on your door in droves, and have even paved the walkway to it from the street.
when will you open the door?

[_Cathy_]

I have not slept since yesterday. I've been agonizing on my decision. I want to take the lumpsum but I know the right or wise thing to do is to take the job offer of the director.

All my friends except for 3 are telling me to stay at my job because of the pandemic. But I've wanted this lumpsum for so long, director made the choice hard for me.

I'm just sad na I always get into terrible situations. Like why did I have to lose the job I love so much.

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[travajante]

I have not slept since yesterday. I've been agonizing on my decision. I want to take the lumpsum but I know the right or wise thing to do is to take the job offer of the director.

All my friends except for 3 are telling me to stay at my job because of the pandemic. But I've wanted this lumpsum for so long, director made the choice hard for me.

I'm just sad na I always get into terrible situations. Like why did I have to lose the job I love so much.

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At a time when jobs are cut, many wondering where their next meal will come & where from...Here you are, wanted & begged...yet, still weighing on a non-dilemma. Times are tough, it's gonna be so for a long while. Discern. Pray. Stay.

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[_Cathy_]

Thanks tsikoteers

My Mom told me to get the lumpsum and just stay home for 1 yr until the china virus is over. I was about to send the email declining the role, when the director sent me an email na I will STILL be an individual contributor (meaning I work on my own, because I don't like having "team mates") So my LAST condition is if I can work from home until it is safe to go outside. If she says yes, stay ako

Sayang talaga the lumpsum + retirement, that's equivalent to 2 yrs and 6 mos of my net salary! But I am DYING to have the AVP title!!!