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    #741
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    BYD also have OTA updates.
    Unfortunately, what I saw in socmed was that their BYD won't start/run because it needs an update to be completed.
    But cannot complete the update because the data signal was crappy due to it was parked in the basement.

    Im assuming Tesla might also encounter this issue.
    Pretty sure the engineers have foreseen this and will default to the previous working firmware when signal is not good to DL and install the update. Much like your fone and Windows will hold the update till it gets a good connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Pretty sure the engineers have foreseen this and will default to the previous working firmware when signal is not good to DL and install the update. Much like your fone and Windows will hold the update till it gets a good connection.
    Yupp, that should have been what should happen.
    But it happened and it went viral, signaling another negative sentiment to own an EV.

    This would rarely happen if the QA people are Japanese.
    They will anticipate this kind of situation and will demand a release schedule extension or will hold the release with their own power until the major flaw won't be solved.

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    #743
    Japanese Documentary... the Japanese are sweating.


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    #744
    If Nikkei is saying that then things must really be dire for the Japanese manufacturers.


    Sometimes EVs can be a bit too high-tech



    Brothel Visits Exposed In Volkswagen Location Data Leak

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    #745
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    If Nikkei is saying that then things must really be dire for the Japanese manufacturers.


    Sometimes EVs can be a bit too high-tech



    Brothel Visits Exposed In Volkswagen Location Data Leak
    Pretty much a risk with internet connected vehicles. I won't be surprised if contemporary ICE vehicles from VW are also affected.

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    #746
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    If Nikkei is saying that then things must really be dire for the Japanese manufacturers.


    Sometimes EVs can be a bit too high-tech



    Brothel Visits Exposed In Volkswagen Location Data Leak
    if that type of profession is legal in that part of the world,
    "... i understand the situation, but what seems to be the problem?"

    but i would be very interested in the person who leaked the info, ... and fire him! i mean, that type of info are personal information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if that type of profession is legal in that part of the world,
    "... i understand the situation, but what seems to be the problem?"

    but i would be very interested in the person who leaked the info, ... and fire him! i mean, that type of info are personal information!
    The problem is that VW is storing the info (that imo they shouldn't be collecting in the first place) in an unsecured manner that the exact paths to files containing sensitive info can be easily be obtained/guessed at and then freely downloaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLZ View Post
    The problem is that VW is storing the info (that imo they shouldn't be collecting in the first place) in an unsecured manner that the exact paths to files containing sensitive info can be easily be obtained/guessed at and then freely downloaded.
    what they need is a good lawsuit... so's they tighten their security systems.

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    Neta electric car goes from 401 km to 40 km range in 1.5 years | Car News China

    the car’s battery had failed and the battery pack needed to be replaced. However, the battery pack is not in stock so the dealership has no way to replace it.
    The dealership is unable to give Ms He an accurate repair time, only saying that it would not be possible until sometime in the New Year; it’s not clear whether they mean after Chinese New Year (January 29) or not.

    The dealership has contacted the manufacturer many times, but the battery pack is out of stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    A bad time for a warranty claim(if still covered) given that the manufacturer is on the rocks financially

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLZ View Post
    A bad time for a warranty claim(if still covered) given that the manufacturer is on the rocks financially
    I think very few EV companies are actually making money.

    Sad part with the article is that she's in China, driving a Chinese car with Chinese made parts... and they still don't have replacement parts available.

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    #752
    When inventory are at its highest due to poor global demand, they still can't scare up a replacement battery pack?

    Foreshadowing what many local owners will likely experience once their pretty EVs starts to show their age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    When inventory are at its highest due to poor global demand, they still can't scare up a replacement battery pack?

    Foreshadowing what many local owners will likely experience once their pretty EVs starts to show their age.
    I think its not so much EVs in this case but rather startup brands not having the financial stability to weather a downturn in a crowded market.

    If its like the other car companies that are currently facing financial trouble or have gone under in china chances are their suppliers aren't willing to supply more parts until they could settle their debts.

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    NIKKEI Film: The sound of engines vanishing in Thailand
    Nikkei Asia

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    People Replace Their Gas-Powered Cars Every 12 Years, While Electric Cars Are Renewed Every 3 Years, According To A Study | Farmingdale Observer
    People replace their gas-powered cars every 12 years, while electric cars are renewed every 3 years, according to a study.

    This frequent renewal is explained in particular by their higher purchase cost, which attracts customers with greater purchasing power who are prepared to change models regularly. Finally, it’s worth pointing out that the electric vehicle market is in the throes of change. Every year, new, more efficient and innovative models arrive on the market, encouraging motorists to take the plunge.

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    Here is the updated list of EV classifications in PH according to the DOE | TopGear PH

    Under DOE Department Circular (DC) No. DC2025-09-0015, which amends DC No. 2023-05-0012, there are now six classifications of electric vehicles here in the Philippines.
    1) Battery EVs or BEVs
    2) Hybrid EVs or HEVs
    3) Light EVs or LEVs
    4) Plug-in Hybrid EVs or PHEVs
    5) Range-Extended EVs or REEVs
    6) Fuel Cell EVs or FCEVs

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    SUV na nag-viral dahil sa paggamit ng green plate, iniimbestigahan | Frontline Pilipinas
    News5Everywhere



    PNP-HPG confiscates EV license plates from 2 diesel-powered vehicles | Inquirer

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    #759
    Mukhang nilalangaw na. 200k off pa din sa Yaris Cross, Corolla Cross, Zenix. 300k off sa Rav4. Mas madami pa ako nakikita na new SL6 sa CC lately....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Mukhang nilalangaw na. 200k off pa din sa Yaris Cross, Corolla Cross, Zenix. 300k off sa Rav4. Mas madami pa ako nakikita na new SL6 sa CC lately....

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    Yung Entry level Corolla Cross is an easy sell for agents

    Yaris Cross is ok
    Zenix and TOTL Corolla Cross is still expensive (even with the discounts)

    Our agent told us that they're expecting the discounted prices until end of the year. May issue daw with supplies/importation ang BYD PH kaya Toyota PH decided to offer a discount.

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