E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[CVT]

I'm still fueling up Shell Unleaded which is currently still ethanol-free at our place. ;)

How did you know, bro?...

Anyway, I am still filling up our City with Shell Unleaded.

And lo and behold, the Km/L performance, based on the OEM gauge, is back to 10.4Km/L, just like it used to be when we were using pure gasoline.

So, it looks like our petrol supply for now, just like the buzz, is pure gasoline.

11.8K:burn:

[crazy_boy]

I doubt it. It probably means just that specific gas station.

went to Total Edsa-Boni kanina, wala nadin yung sticker nila before na "this fuel contains 10% ethanol..."

[tidus1203]

Even the Shell here in Maria Clara cor Araneta and the one in Retiro is now pure gasoline, wala silang E10 blend... They covered the stickers that says "this gasoline is blended with ethanol, suitable for direct injection engines" or something like that...

[drunkpunk]

sana marami na mga gasoline stations mag offer ng pure unleaded. dito samin sa san pedro/binan, laguna may 10% ethanol pa rin eh.

[OldSchoolHack]

Balik sa pure gasoline. Buti hindi sila minumultahan (P1million). Good news ito, lalo na sa owners ng lumang oto (tulad ko!).

Enjoy na natin habang ganyan yan.

[crazy_boy]

pati caltex diesel, hindi na yata biodiesel.

nagpa-karga ako kanina, wala na yung sticker sa pump ng diesel

[e-bundok]

even the total gasoline stations up north (vizcaya, cagayan and nearby provinces) have taken off the e10 additive in their product line. i asked one of the attendants and he told me "hindi na daw sila maglalabas ng e10 blended gasoline". but i think most totals there never really offered e-10 blended gasolines. atleast this is good news and i won't have to swap my old-but-reliable carbed car anytime soon. hehe

[jansky]

hmm.. anong nangyari at nawala ulit sa ibang station ang E-10? makapagpakarga nga ulit ng pure gas zoom zoom na naman

[drunkpunk]

ang mahirap nyan kung sticker lang pala ng E10 ang tinanggal pero ang mismong ethanol mix sa gasolina ay meron pa rin pala. :mad: :mad:

[dod]

just filled up with shell unleaded (non e10) at blumentritt, san juan branch... hope there will be more stations with non e10 fuel for my ee100 corolla =)

[speed unlimited]

Dito sa Retiro Sea Oil super unleaded nila wala na rin ethanol . Maigi doon sa mga carburator type na makina.

[ghosthunter]

I wonder if the current movement of selling non-E10 gasoline is based on the lack of ethanol supply or the oil companies trying to lower the cost of gasoline?

[OldSchoolHack]

Must be the shortage. Petroleum companies like to spike prices.

[shmuck316]

Karamihan kaya sa mga gasoline stations pure gasoline na ulit?

Nagimprove kasi yung fuel economy nung car namin from 7.5 hm/L to 9 km/L. I attributed it to the cold weather (cold air better performance) since start of the year. But I'll check next time I gas up kung 100% pure gas nga yung station sa may amin. Baka naman dahil dun kaya gumanda fuel consumption.

[ghosthunter]

Karamihan kaya sa mga gasoline stations pure gasoline na ulit?

Nagimprove kasi yung fuel economy nung car namin from 7.5 hm/L to 9 km/L. I attributed it to the cold weather (cold air better performance) since start of the year. But I'll check next time I gas up kung 100% pure gas nga yung station sa may amin. Baka naman dahil dun kaya gumanda fuel consumption.

Fuel has more effect on your fuel mileage than air temperature.

[CVT]

After two "tank-fulls".... (midway na ang third), the mileage on our City (with a Km/L gauge) is holding at its previous pure gasoline performance......This is on Shell's Unleaded gasoline.....

12.1K:drunk:

[ghosthunter]

Given that the link with lower fuel mileage with E10 gasoline is obvious, is it worth it for motorist to be forced to use E10 gasoline (when supplies are normalized)?

E10 gasoline is supposed to help us save foreign dollar reserves and help "clean air" movement. But the fact is, we are still importing ethanol, we are forced to burn 10% more fuel to go the same distance and we are forced to spend 10% more on fuel during an average driving year.

[scharnhorst]

so they remove the sticker?

hmmm. puro E10 pa yung mga malapit sa amin...

[EE100shiro]

Total Gas station in cavite Wala nang Ethanol

[duskylim]

Dear Sirs:

Sad but true, the Philippines used to be a large producer of sugar and ethanol.

Unfortunately we have been surpassed in efficiency, price and quality by the Brazilians and their indigenous ethanol fuel program - both from the production side and the technical side.

Most of the ethanol used to create local E10 fuel is IMPORTED from abroad - from places like - you guessed it - BRAZIL.

For those truly interested in the background to this and its root causes - please investigate the role played by the premier Agro-Industrial Scientific Research Organization in Brazil - EMBRAPA!

Sincerely,

Dusky Lim