Tucson vs RAV4

[theblob]

Can the second row of the Rav4 be reclined?

Pros of the Tucson is the more spacious second row. Pros of the Rav4 is resale value and better entertainment system.

Price difference is about 200k at most but this can easily be offset when the vehicle is resold. Personally Tucson talaga gusto ko pero I'm worried with the aftersales and overall car durability versus a Toyota.

This is a debate between what I want and what is more practical in the real world kahit mas mataas rating ng Tucson sa US.

No more CX5 since hindi reclinable yung second row seats plus it's more expensive.

[minicarph]

Rav4 has no resale value. The only remaining gasoline Toyota car that has resale value is the Vios, check fB groups. Matabang na din ang used market sa corolla. Camey nga buy 1 take 1 sa fb groups.

The only CUV with higher resale value in the market is the CRV.

So given this and the ugliness of the Current Rav4. Get The Tucson. But not the gasoline but the diesel Tucson.

diesel are the only cars that keeps HARI affloat nowadays, Accent Diesel and Starex. Filipino buyers are now smart these days probably because we are progressive.

In FB groups, the old hyundai diesels have more value than the RAv4 like the Santa fe, tucson Crdi. Even the used accent crdi have higher appraisals than the gas guzzling Rav4

[StockEngine]

wait for the possibly diesel crv...

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[Egan101]

What budget are we looking at around here? CUVs, whatever brand it is, have low resale value. It is much like a midsize car. If you intend to sell it in the future, be ready to take a hit.

Since you considered a Tucson, you might as well check its twin, the Kia Sportage. Why not a Forester or CRV or Xtrail? The Forester, even in its base trim is loaded with features, high ground clearance, and comes standard with AWD (unlike other brands in which you pay a premium to get the AWD model).

[theblob]

This will be my first car if ever kaya gusto ko talaga yung design na type ko. Was supposed to wait for the CHR kaso magkakaroon na ng excise tax and the interior seems cramped. Hindi ko type design ng CRV, Sportage, Forester and Xtrail.

I plan to get the gas variant. Nacompute ko average savings ng diesel parang halos parehas lang? Parang hindi na rin practical mag Hyundai kung presyo ng diesel variant yung paguusapan.

Tumibay na ba ang mga Hyundai? Notorious kasi masyado quality nila. Hindi daw bagay sa Philippines mga car nila.

[Egan101]

^^^Exterior looks is just part of a vehicle's design so you need to dig deeper into other things that make up the whole package. It's best to keep your options open and test drive your choices.

[minicarph]

This will be my first car if ever kaya gusto ko talaga yung design na type ko. Was supposed to wait for the CHR kaso magkakaroon na ng excise tax and the interior seems cramped. Hindi ko type design ng CRV, Sportage, Forester and Xtrail.

I plan to get the gas variant. Nacompute ko average savings ng diesel parang halos parehas lang? Parang hindi na rin practical mag Hyundai kung presyo ng diesel variant yung paguusapan.

Tumibay na ba ang mga Hyundai? Notorious kasi masyado quality nila. Hindi daw bagay sa Philippines mga car nila.

Payo ko lang if you will buy gasoline cuvs, ecosport na lang. Gasoline is now at P45 per liter. And the dollar is going up. The possibiluty of breaching thr P50 / liter price is looming.

Rav4 is bot really a popular car in the philippines, para ka na din bumili ng ng camry or mz6 dyan. More than half kagad ang valhe ng bagsak nyan the minute yoh buy it from Toyota.

[Egan101]

Subaru is offering 200k discount on XV models. Maybe you can give it a look. The XV offers a good package compared to other small crossovers (Ecosport, HRV, CX3, Juke).

[theblob]

I used to like the XV before but realized it's too low and too small. And if I'm not mistaken, wala ding resale value ang Subaru dito sa atin.

Ecosport was an option but again, even smaller than the XV. Too cramped inside specially sa likod. Most of the time ako lang gagamit pero pag weekends malamang family na.

Kung lahat ng compact SUV wala naman palang resale value then I'll just take this out of the equation. Kala ko kasi basta Toyota maganda ang value regardless of model. This is the only reason I was considering the RAV4 dahil hindi ko naman talaga gusto yung design niya.

As for gas/diesel expense, maybe I will re-think about the diesel variant of the Tucson. Mas mataas ba ang mileage pag diesel? May nabasa ako dati parang mas mataas ang gastos sa maintenance ng diesel compared sa gas? Nasa 7KM/lit ako ngayon sa 2008 Altis ko.

Being "young" and this being my first real car, I don't want to drive something I was forced to buy out of sheer practicality. Kasi kung practicality lang rin, shempre Fortuner or Montero Sport nalang na halos kapresyo lang ng Tucson Diesel but I dislike them since masyado na malaki. Or the BRV kung mas murang price bracket.

Who knows, maybe I'll win the lotto and I'll get to buy my dream car, the Lexus NX200.... or the Porsche Macan.

[Egan101]

^^^ The Subaru XV is smaller than the standard CUVs but it offers a higher ground clearance compared to the RAV4 and CRV. The XV has a ground clearance similar to the Forester and CX5, more than 8 inches. The CRV and RAV only offer a tad over 6 inches of ground clearance.

Do you want something like the Lexus NX200T or Macan for a lot less money but still packs some serious performance? Something even more practical with a big cargo space and can seat 5 people comfortably. The Forester XT comes with a potent 2.0L turbo engine which is within the power/torque output of the NX200t and Macan 2.0L Turbo.

Since you are still "young", why consider a CUV? Why not opt for a TOTL compact? Like the Civic Turbo or Focus Turbo or Mazda3. They can still seat 5 and has a decent trunk to carry some stuff plus some driving fun. If I'm still young and I have some money to spend for a car, I'd get a Subaru WRX - serious performance, lots of driving fun, loaded with lots of features, seating for 5, and usable trunk

[jut703]

I used to like the XV before but realized it's too low and too small. And if I'm not mistaken, wala ding resale value ang Subaru dito sa atin.

Ecosport was an option but again, even smaller than the XV. Too cramped inside specially sa likod. Most of the time ako lang gagamit pero pag weekends malamang family na.

Kung lahat ng compact SUV wala naman palang resale value then I'll just take this out of the equation. Kala ko kasi basta Toyota maganda ang value regardless of model. This is the only reason I was considering the RAV4 dahil hindi ko naman talaga gusto yung design niya.

As for gas/diesel expense, maybe I will re-think about the diesel variant of the Tucson. Mas mataas ba ang mileage pag diesel? May nabasa ako dati parang mas mataas ang gastos sa maintenance ng diesel compared sa gas? Nasa 7KM/lit ako ngayon sa 2008 Altis ko.

Being "young" and this being my first real car, I don't want to drive something I was forced to buy out of sheer practicality. Kasi kung practicality lang rin, shempre Fortuner or Montero Sport nalang na halos kapresyo lang ng Tucson Diesel but I dislike them since masyado na malaki. Or the BRV kung mas murang price bracket.

Who knows, maybe I'll win the lotto and I'll get to buy my dream car, the Lexus NX200.... or the Porsche Macan.

Yes, all crossovers have poor resale value compared to PPVs - very little demand in the used car market compared to a decade ago.

I'm not a fan of the XV because the Forester is a better and bigger car for almost the same price. If you can afford it, go for the XT, but if not, even the base model is pretty feature-packed already.

What do you really want in a car anyway, and what's your budget?

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[minicarph]

I used to like the XV before but realized it's too low and too small. And if I'm not mistaken, wala ding resale value ang Subaru dito sa atin.

Ecosport was an option but again, even smaller than the XV. Too cramped inside specially sa likod. Most of the time ako lang gagamit pero pag weekends malamang family na.

Kung lahat ng compact SUV wala naman palang resale value then I'll just take this out of the equation. Kala ko kasi basta Toyota maganda ang value regardless of model. This is the only reason I was considering the RAV4 dahil hindi ko naman talaga gusto yung design niya.

As for gas/diesel expense, maybe I will re-think about the diesel variant of the Tucson. Mas mataas ba ang mileage pag diesel? May nabasa ako dati parang mas mataas ang gastos sa maintenance ng diesel compared sa gas? Nasa 7KM/lit ako ngayon sa 2008 Altis ko.

Being "young" and this being my first real car, I don't want to drive something I was forced to buy out of sheer practicality. Kasi kung practicality lang rin, shempre Fortuner or Montero Sport nalang na halos kapresyo lang ng Tucson Diesel but I dislike them since masyado na malaki. Or the BRV kung mas murang price bracket.

Who knows, maybe I'll win the lotto and I'll get to buy my dream car, the Lexus NX200.... or the Porsche Macan.

Oo nga pala brv. Yan pwede malakas demand sa used market in the future.
I think it's time to wisen up, current crvs, cx5s, rav4s, foresters, xvs, tucsons and sportages are in the average of 1.3M but that's PPV territory pricing also.

So how would one choose get a 1.3M CUV and 3 years later it's priced 500k or lower or get a diesel PPV at 1.3M and get acresale value of 700-900k in 3 years.

Add to that, ang depreciation ng suspension system ng PPV is not much as compared to a CUV coz mas robust and rigid ang PPVs compared to cuvs.

Win-win lahat not to mention the diesel vs. gasoline issue pa. And i think mas may angas naman ang PPV sa kalsada kaysa cuv na mas maliit.

So given all that, a cuv buyer nowadays will buy a cuv for individiuality disregarding all those advantages and ready to accept the disadvantage in the spirit of yun naiiba car mo.

[theblob]

Nope, not into sports/fast cars.

I almost had a "Christopher Lao" incident with my Altis which is why I am deadset on a CUV. Natry ko na din Montero Sport and Fortuner, too big for me, hassle masyado. Handling is not good din.

BRV, CRV and Forester are too family-oriented in terms of looks. Siguro kung P800k lang yung Ecosport papatulan ko na.

[Egan101]

Nope, not into sports/fast cars.

I almost had a "Christopher Lao" incident with my Altis which is why I am deadset on a CUV. Natry ko na din Montero Sport and Fortuner, too big for me, hassle masyado. Handling is not good din.

BRV, CRV and Forester are too family-oriented in terms of looks. Siguro kung P800k lang yung Ecosport papatulan ko na.

CUVs are really meant to be family vehicles. In the US, CUVs have now been starting to cut into the sales of the usual family car, the midsize sedans. They offer a practical approach for small families who need more comfort from a compact, a more rugged exterior over a midsize, and a useful cargo area for luggage.

I guess you better stick with compacts if you don't like a family-oriented vehicle. Or how about an HRV? It's not that small compared to an Ecosport or Juke though it does not offer much in ground clearance compared to CUVs.

[theblob]

Design-wise OK sana HRV kaso yun nga lang sobrang liit tsaka mababa.

[Egan101]

Design-wise OK sana HRV kaso yun nga lang sobrang liit tsaka mababa.

The HRV is based off the Jazz platform but powered by the Civic's 1.8L engine. The HRV offers better interior space compared to the Ecosport (based off the Fiesta), CX3 (based off the Mazda2), and the Juke. However, it is priced about the same as the Subaru XV which is a bit bigger and has a higher ground clearance plus a more powerful engine and a capable AWD system.

You can wait for the Toyota CHR but based off global pricing, it is more expensive than the competition so you'd be better off with a standard CUV. Or maybe wait also for the upcoming Mitsubishi Eclipse crossover.

[minicarph]

Ch-r is overhyped car that looks good bur has no use in philippine setting unless you value form over function. For me, it's comparable to the anticipation of the upcoming t86 in 2012 pero right now less and less are seen on the roads. Why? Wala naman respect factor eh, maganda lang. Sa side collision lang sa sobrsng baba ng T86 yari ulo mo lalo na kung naka-arb front bumper pa yun PPV or even a jeepney.

That goes the same with Ch-r, ambaba ng ground clearance. Try to search a photo in google with a Ch-r and Juke side by side. Not much difference in height. The Juke btw is like 3 inch higher that a Vios.

So pass ako dyan.


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[theblob]

Sure na ba yung excise tax sa May? If yes then I wont wait beyond that.

[jaggerx3]

Personally i'd get the Tucson lalo if diesel. Hyundai's are not the main problem but rather the dealers. Just connect sa mga fb groups you're good to go.
A friend of mine who works in T brand told me na talong talo sila sa CRV at lalo sa Tucson dahil sa diesel variants na meron eto.

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[Egan101]

Sure na ba yung excise tax sa May? If yes then I wont wait beyond that.

Take out the resale value factor and ask yourself what would be your key requirements for the vehicle you want. If you're not buying a Vios or City or Jazz or Innova, then forget about resale value. Civics and Corollas can't compete in resale value compared to the City or Vios. An Innova will have a resale value like the taller PPVs or even better.

Just choose what tickles your fancy and enjoy driving it.