Tucson vs RAV4

[Egan101]

Subaru is offering 200k discount on XV models. Maybe you can give it a look. The XV offers a good package compared to other small crossovers (Ecosport, HRV, CX3, Juke).

[theblob]

I used to like the XV before but realized it's too low and too small. And if I'm not mistaken, wala ding resale value ang Subaru dito sa atin.

Ecosport was an option but again, even smaller than the XV. Too cramped inside specially sa likod. Most of the time ako lang gagamit pero pag weekends malamang family na.

Kung lahat ng compact SUV wala naman palang resale value then I'll just take this out of the equation. Kala ko kasi basta Toyota maganda ang value regardless of model. This is the only reason I was considering the RAV4 dahil hindi ko naman talaga gusto yung design niya.

As for gas/diesel expense, maybe I will re-think about the diesel variant of the Tucson. Mas mataas ba ang mileage pag diesel? May nabasa ako dati parang mas mataas ang gastos sa maintenance ng diesel compared sa gas? Nasa 7KM/lit ako ngayon sa 2008 Altis ko.

Being "young" and this being my first real car, I don't want to drive something I was forced to buy out of sheer practicality. Kasi kung practicality lang rin, shempre Fortuner or Montero Sport nalang na halos kapresyo lang ng Tucson Diesel but I dislike them since masyado na malaki. Or the BRV kung mas murang price bracket.

Who knows, maybe I'll win the lotto and I'll get to buy my dream car, the Lexus NX200.... or the Porsche Macan.

[Egan101]

^^^ The Subaru XV is smaller than the standard CUVs but it offers a higher ground clearance compared to the RAV4 and CRV. The XV has a ground clearance similar to the Forester and CX5, more than 8 inches. The CRV and RAV only offer a tad over 6 inches of ground clearance.

Do you want something like the Lexus NX200T or Macan for a lot less money but still packs some serious performance? Something even more practical with a big cargo space and can seat 5 people comfortably. The Forester XT comes with a potent 2.0L turbo engine which is within the power/torque output of the NX200t and Macan 2.0L Turbo.

Since you are still "young", why consider a CUV? Why not opt for a TOTL compact? Like the Civic Turbo or Focus Turbo or Mazda3. They can still seat 5 and has a decent trunk to carry some stuff plus some driving fun. If I'm still young and I have some money to spend for a car, I'd get a Subaru WRX - serious performance, lots of driving fun, loaded with lots of features, seating for 5, and usable trunk

[crosswind]

I will take the rav4.
Basing from my experience it is more spacious than the Tucson, legroom and headroom.
Resale value is better than the petrol tucson. 2014 model still sells as high as 800k-990k

[jut703]

I will take the rav4.
Basing from my experience it is more spacious than the Tucson, legroom and headroom.
Resale value is better than the petrol tucson. 2014 model still sells as high as 800k-990k

Posted 800-900k, but I doubt it sells quickly. For slow-moving cars, usually a tawad of 100k or more is common.

I bet a diesel Tucson will sell quicker because it's usually cheaper and is a diesel.

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[minicarph]

put yourself in 2nd hand buyer shoes, if he has like half-a-million to 3 quarter a million budget, I'm sure he'll look first in the reliable brands then the fuel economy. Diesel will always be fuel - efficient whether it's brand new or used. usually a difference of like 1-2km/liter drop . but a gasoline, so many factors that it will drop the FC rating from brand new to used.

I have seen many Kia sedans sold in the 2nd hand market that has 4km/liter. grabe kawawa used buyer. that can happen too sa mga CUVs.

For me, if one is to buy brand new these days: he should limit his choices on the ff: if he cares for resale value (btw, resale value also includes demand of the unit. meron dyan trailblazer medyo mataas resale value at 900k, the thing is may demand ba?)


- Wigo / Mirage HB / Eon HBs
- Vios / City / Mirage Sedan / Accent Diesel
- Ecosport / BRV
- Innova / Adventure Diesel
- Fort / Montero / MUX / Everest
- Hilux / Ranger / Dmax
- Pajero / Land Cruiser
- Hi-Ace Commuter / Nissan Urvan
- L300FB
- and some specials like FJ Cruiser / T86

if I"m gonna buy today, I'd choose any one of the above by category kung ano hanap ko .

The L300FB/ Hi-Ace Commuter / Nissan Urvan/ Adventure / Pickups - those definitely will be bought by enterprising used buyers for business / workhourse use
Pajero / LC / FJ Cruiser / T86 - well if we are to profile these buyers - budget conscious spoiled Rich kids brats / high level networking peeps, and some execs looking for a Sunday / show-off vehicle

all others depende na lang sa preference ng used buyer - gas or diesel. suv or sedan. so that's why I believe Ecosport and BRV will be high demand for those who dont like diesels but like suv form factor na matipid. anything bigger body than that sigurado gas guzzler lalo na kung luma na.

[minicarph]

oh btw, I forgot Avanza. it should be in the row of Ecosport and BRV

[theblob]

No stock Rav4. Cant even see a sample unit.

[kagalingan]

Wala na pumapansin sa rav4

Pinakamatino yung 1st gen mid 1990s pa.

[Egan101]

Wala na pumapansin sa rav4

Pinakamatino yung 1st gen mid 1990s pa.

Di pansinin RAV4 kasi sa presyo nya you get much better packages with a Forester, CX5, or CRV. Even the Korean twins (Sportage & Tucson) offer a bit more. Yung TOTL RAV4 is priced at 2M+ which is 200k+ more than the more capable Forester XT or CX5 AWD. I think the base trim RAV4 is a good bargain like the Xtrail FWD and CX5 Maxx but the stocks are so limited.

[Walter]

No one's buying ... so dealer's are not stocking ...

[jut703]

I used to like the XV before but realized it's too low and too small. And if I'm not mistaken, wala ding resale value ang Subaru dito sa atin.

Ecosport was an option but again, even smaller than the XV. Too cramped inside specially sa likod. Most of the time ako lang gagamit pero pag weekends malamang family na.

Kung lahat ng compact SUV wala naman palang resale value then I'll just take this out of the equation. Kala ko kasi basta Toyota maganda ang value regardless of model. This is the only reason I was considering the RAV4 dahil hindi ko naman talaga gusto yung design niya.

As for gas/diesel expense, maybe I will re-think about the diesel variant of the Tucson. Mas mataas ba ang mileage pag diesel? May nabasa ako dati parang mas mataas ang gastos sa maintenance ng diesel compared sa gas? Nasa 7KM/lit ako ngayon sa 2008 Altis ko.

Being "young" and this being my first real car, I don't want to drive something I was forced to buy out of sheer practicality. Kasi kung practicality lang rin, shempre Fortuner or Montero Sport nalang na halos kapresyo lang ng Tucson Diesel but I dislike them since masyado na malaki. Or the BRV kung mas murang price bracket.

Who knows, maybe I'll win the lotto and I'll get to buy my dream car, the Lexus NX200.... or the Porsche Macan.

Yes, all crossovers have poor resale value compared to PPVs - very little demand in the used car market compared to a decade ago.

I'm not a fan of the XV because the Forester is a better and bigger car for almost the same price. If you can afford it, go for the XT, but if not, even the base model is pretty feature-packed already.

What do you really want in a car anyway, and what's your budget?

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[minicarph]

I used to like the XV before but realized it's too low and too small. And if I'm not mistaken, wala ding resale value ang Subaru dito sa atin.

Ecosport was an option but again, even smaller than the XV. Too cramped inside specially sa likod. Most of the time ako lang gagamit pero pag weekends malamang family na.

Kung lahat ng compact SUV wala naman palang resale value then I'll just take this out of the equation. Kala ko kasi basta Toyota maganda ang value regardless of model. This is the only reason I was considering the RAV4 dahil hindi ko naman talaga gusto yung design niya.

As for gas/diesel expense, maybe I will re-think about the diesel variant of the Tucson. Mas mataas ba ang mileage pag diesel? May nabasa ako dati parang mas mataas ang gastos sa maintenance ng diesel compared sa gas? Nasa 7KM/lit ako ngayon sa 2008 Altis ko.

Being "young" and this being my first real car, I don't want to drive something I was forced to buy out of sheer practicality. Kasi kung practicality lang rin, shempre Fortuner or Montero Sport nalang na halos kapresyo lang ng Tucson Diesel but I dislike them since masyado na malaki. Or the BRV kung mas murang price bracket.

Who knows, maybe I'll win the lotto and I'll get to buy my dream car, the Lexus NX200.... or the Porsche Macan.

Oo nga pala brv. Yan pwede malakas demand sa used market in the future.
I think it's time to wisen up, current crvs, cx5s, rav4s, foresters, xvs, tucsons and sportages are in the average of 1.3M but that's PPV territory pricing also.

So how would one choose get a 1.3M CUV and 3 years later it's priced 500k or lower or get a diesel PPV at 1.3M and get acresale value of 700-900k in 3 years.

Add to that, ang depreciation ng suspension system ng PPV is not much as compared to a CUV coz mas robust and rigid ang PPVs compared to cuvs.

Win-win lahat not to mention the diesel vs. gasoline issue pa. And i think mas may angas naman ang PPV sa kalsada kaysa cuv na mas maliit.

So given all that, a cuv buyer nowadays will buy a cuv for individiuality disregarding all those advantages and ready to accept the disadvantage in the spirit of yun naiiba car mo.

[theblob]

Nope, not into sports/fast cars.

I almost had a "Christopher Lao" incident with my Altis which is why I am deadset on a CUV. Natry ko na din Montero Sport and Fortuner, too big for me, hassle masyado. Handling is not good din.

BRV, CRV and Forester are too family-oriented in terms of looks. Siguro kung P800k lang yung Ecosport papatulan ko na.

[Egan101]

Nope, not into sports/fast cars.

I almost had a "Christopher Lao" incident with my Altis which is why I am deadset on a CUV. Natry ko na din Montero Sport and Fortuner, too big for me, hassle masyado. Handling is not good din.

BRV, CRV and Forester are too family-oriented in terms of looks. Siguro kung P800k lang yung Ecosport papatulan ko na.

CUVs are really meant to be family vehicles. In the US, CUVs have now been starting to cut into the sales of the usual family car, the midsize sedans. They offer a practical approach for small families who need more comfort from a compact, a more rugged exterior over a midsize, and a useful cargo area for luggage.

I guess you better stick with compacts if you don't like a family-oriented vehicle. Or how about an HRV? It's not that small compared to an Ecosport or Juke though it does not offer much in ground clearance compared to CUVs.

[theblob]

Design-wise OK sana HRV kaso yun nga lang sobrang liit tsaka mababa.

[Egan101]

Design-wise OK sana HRV kaso yun nga lang sobrang liit tsaka mababa.

The HRV is based off the Jazz platform but powered by the Civic's 1.8L engine. The HRV offers better interior space compared to the Ecosport (based off the Fiesta), CX3 (based off the Mazda2), and the Juke. However, it is priced about the same as the Subaru XV which is a bit bigger and has a higher ground clearance plus a more powerful engine and a capable AWD system.

You can wait for the Toyota CHR but based off global pricing, it is more expensive than the competition so you'd be better off with a standard CUV. Or maybe wait also for the upcoming Mitsubishi Eclipse crossover.

[rovic815]

Subaru is offering 200k discount on XV models. Maybe you can give it a look. The XV offers a good package compared to other small crossovers (Ecosport, HRV, CX3, Juke).

from any dealer ba 'to? link?

[Egan101]

from any dealer ba 'to? link?

Just go to a Subaru dealer and ask if the promo is still ongoing.