Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

**p_borj** · January 7th, 2010 02:59 PM

bad trip ako kapag may mabagal na A/T car sa harap ko tapos paahon ang daan tapos naka-M/T ka.

no offense meant ha pero napapansin ko sa mga mababagal magmaneho (sa city not on highway) : Most of them drive A/T. Nagtitipid yata sa gas. Open road pero ang speed nasa less than 50kph.

**p_borj** · January 7th, 2010 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by jick.cejoco

the u.s. military and all u.s. federal government vehicles are automatic transmission equipped for a reason. first, everybody who has a driver's license can operate them with ease compared to more skills to drive a m/t vehicle. the car rental companies only use a/t cars for the same reason and that they don't have to constantly replace the clutch. as long as the fluid and the level is correct, a/t cars last longer than the m/t cars

remember, kahit A/T may clutch. kapag nakababad sa "D" ang gear mo sa A/T while in traffic, you know hehe. kung M/T naman, kung clutch driver ka, you know na rin hehe.

**oj88** · January 7th, 2010 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by p_borj

remember, kahit A/T may clutch. kapag nakababad sa "D" ang gear mo sa A/T while in traffic, you know hehe. kung M/T naman, kung clutch driver ka, you know na rin hehe.

Not true. Yung torque converter ang functional equivalent ng clutch sa M/T. Yung mga clutch packs sa A/T ay para lang sa linkage ng mga different gears (ie. 1st gear, 2nd gear, 3rd gear, etc.). Kapag nakahinto tapos nasa "D", yung clutch ng 1st gear naka-engage (walang slippage). Yung torque converter ang nagpo-provide ng slippage para hindi mamatayan ng makina.

**jick.cejoco** · January 7th, 2010 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

Not true. Yung torque converter ang functional equivalent ng clutch sa M/T. Yung mga clutch packs sa A/T ay para lang sa linkage ng mga different gears (ie. 1st gear, 2nd gear, 3rd gear, etc.). Kapag nakahinto tapos nasa "D", yung clutch ng 1st gear naka-engage (walang slippage). Yung torque converter ang nagpo-provide ng slippage para hindi mamatayan ng makina.

oj88,
yes tell them. this is another area a lot of people have the wrong myth. they can go to www.howstuffworks.com on this and hopefully they will get educated and understand.
jick

**s_quilicot** · January 7th, 2010 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by p_borj

bad trip ako kapag may mabagal na A/T car sa harap ko tapos paahon ang daan tapos naka-M/T ka.

no offense meant ha pero napapansin ko sa mga mababagal magmaneho (sa city not on highway) : Most of them drive A/T. Nagtitipid yata sa gas. Open road pero ang speed nasa less than 50kph.

IMO walang kinalaman ang pagiging A/T ng mga ito. It depends on the driver.

5 years and almost 100.000 kms na tinakbo ng trooper 4jx1 ko but until now wala paring tranny issues.

Not even my friends advie (M/T) can beat mine at stand still.

**fourtheboys96** · January 7th, 2010 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by p_borj

bad trip ako kapag may mabagal na A/T car sa harap ko tapos paahon ang daan tapos naka-M/T ka.

no offense meant ha pero napapansin ko sa mga mababagal magmaneho (sa city not on highway) : Most of them drive A/T. Nagtitipid yata sa gas. Open road pero ang speed nasa less than 50kph.

nasa driver yun wala sa transmission

**kimospeed** · January 7th, 2010 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by p_borj

bad trip ako kapag may mabagal na A/T car sa harap ko tapos paahon ang daan tapos naka-M/T ka.

no offense meant ha pero napapansin ko sa mga mababagal magmaneho (sa city not on highway) : Most of them drive A/T. Nagtitipid yata sa gas. Open road pero ang speed nasa less than 50kph.

Pansin ko rin, you will know that its an A/T kapag nag full stop sya tapos umilaw ung tail light for a couple of second tapos mawawala tapos aabante na...

**alwayz_yummy** · January 7th, 2010 05:07 PM

kalokohan...doing 50kph will never consume less than car cruising at 80-120kph with engine speed running only at 1500-2000rpm..

xty ko runs 100kph at 1800rpm...pero most of the time napapapisil ng madiin sa throttle di ko namamalayan 180-200kph na, lalo na kung napapasunod sa mabilis...si wifey lang nagpapaalala sa akin...hay (downside of having the gauge cluster in the middle)

**jick.cejoco** · January 7th, 2010 05:12 PM

in europe, 2010 model cars with automatic transmissions, the engine stalls or stops running when you step on the brakes and the car comes to a complete stop to save on fuel, then automatically restarts once you release the brake pedal and step on the accelerator. this is not possible with cars equipped with M/T. some hybrid cars are the same, it has to be equipped with A/T and/or operate on the electric motor or in some torque demanding situations, the engine and the electric motor propel the car
jick

**oj88** · January 7th, 2010 06:35 PM

Yup, it's more of driver attitude that dictates how fast or slow he/she drives, not the transmission type. Meron tao na walang pakialam na kahit masama ang kalsada, harurot pa rin. Yung iba, I can understand na maingat mag-maneho or iniingatan yung sasakyan nila kaya mabagal, lalo na kung city driving... bilang lang ang matinong kalsada. I don't think dahil nagtitipid ng gas.

And I also agree that A/Ts, due to its design, has a more sluggish response during acceleration compared to a M/T car. The reason being that fluid coupling is initially used inside the torque converter up to a certain speed before the lock-up clutch is engaged. In contrast, during acceleration, M/Ts only uses a fraction of a second of clutch slippage before it can be fully engaged. Hence, the seemingly more peppy, burn-out-inducing response when driving an M/T.

At any rate, graduate na ako sa M/T... it's a "been there, done that" sort of deal. Now, it's my turn to take it easy and I definitely enjoy the more laid-back ride on an A/T. I should've done this a long time ago. Pansin ko din pati mga passengers, hindi uga ng uga mga ulo nila pag A/T dahil suave ang acceleration at engine braking. Pwede mag timpla ng juice habang tumatakbo.

Though, banned ang pagkain sa loob ng sasakyan ko... ma-asawa o anak. :D Hiwalay kung hiwalay! j/k lol