Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[ans_lim168]

Learned to drive using M/T , got the chance to own an A/T during the mid 90's. For me M/T is still the best be it city driving (traffic stop and go or highway driving) nothing still beats old school. That's just me.

[mtbjr]

Hi mga sirs, I'm about to enroll today or tomorrow in Smart Driving School; mas mababa kasi ang rate niya kaysa A1 & Socialite - 7.5K for a 15 hour driving lesson. Tulad ng suggestions niyo dito, I'll be learning M/T kahit na A/T ang kukunin ko this NOV 2010.

They have branches near our house in Marikina and near my workplace in Makati. Saan ba mas magandang mag-aral mag-drive? Sa ma-traffic na Makati/Manila area o sa maluwag na Marikina area?

[aejhayl17]

Hi mga sirs, I'm about to enroll today or tomorrow in Smart Driving School; mas mababa kasi ang rate niya kaysa A1 & Socialite - 7.5K for a 15 hour driving lesson. Tulad ng suggestions niyo dito, I'll be learning M/T kahit na A/T ang kukunin ko this NOV 2010.

They have branches near our house in Marikina and near my workplace in Makati. Saan ba mas magandang mag-aral mag-drive? Sa ma-traffic na Makati/Manila area o sa maluwag na Marikina area?

sa heavy traffic, yung tipong with buses and jeepneys. bumper to bumper contacts.

seriously!

[[archie]]

Hi mga sirs, I'm about to enroll today or tomorrow in Smart Driving School; mas mababa kasi ang rate niya kaysa A1 & Socialite - 7.5K for a 15 hour driving lesson. Tulad ng suggestions niyo dito, I'll be learning M/T kahit na A/T ang kukunin ko this NOV 2010.

They have branches near our house in Marikina and near my workplace in Makati. Saan ba mas magandang mag-aral mag-drive? Sa ma-traffic na Makati/Manila area o sa maluwag na Marikina area?

para sakin:

sa wide area para sa timpla training
moderate traffic para sa stop go
heavy traffic kung sanay na magtimpla
nlex o slex para sa highway driving.

[mtbjr]

Sana nga maranasan ko yan kasi yung Makati branch ng Smart Driving ay nasa kanto lang ng Buendia & Evangelista - malapit sa mga highway (EDSA & Osmena).

[shuyin5]

dati gusto ko M/T kasi lagi ako na aassign sa province..

ngayon nasa manila na me A/T na talaga..hehe

[shadow3616931]

how about this tsikoteers, hindi palaging lamang ang A/T sa traffic.

sa gitgitan/singitan sa traffic, mas lamang ang M/T since total control mo yung andar mo. naalala ko yung isang crv na gustong sumingit sa lane ko (I just know it's an A/T because dikitan din kami). hirap siya sa yung aandar ng mabilis or biglaan for a very short distance tapos yung preno din kaagad. sorry siya, nag-counterflow siya tapos sisingit sa akin.

Baka mahina paa nung naka CRV kasi ako ke manual o matic di ako masingitan ng mga pesteng taxi

[shantos]

Re: Battle of the used Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T


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car batteries are usually for there for starting the engine.

once the engine is running, the alternator takes over.

would a bad synchros causing me to lose 2nd cause the alternator to stop recharging the battery?

[niky]

Re: Battle of the used Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T


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would a bad synchros causing me to lose 2nd cause the alternator to stop recharging the battery?

Nope. Totally separate issue.

[Pearl Green]

maganda ang M/T sa city driving at sa long drive, sa A/T maganda e2 sa akyatan pero hindi na tipid sa gas consumption. M/T kapag hindi ka masyado pupunta sa mga matataas or incline roads.

[shadow3616931]

maganda ang M/T sa city driving at sa long drive, sa A/T maganda e2 sa akyatan pero hindi na tipid sa gas consumption. M/T kapag hindi ka masyado pupunta sa mga matataas or incline roads.

Parang baliktad, nakakabitin nga sa akyatan A/T kelangan ka mag shift sa 2 or O/D off pag super tarik L even downhill para mag engine brake edi para ka narin nag manual. City driving mas maganda naman A/T lalo na pag traffic

[oj88]

Parang baliktad, nakakabitin nga sa akyatan A/T kelangan ka mag shift sa 2 or O/D off pag super tarik L even downhill para mag engine brake edi para ka narin nag manual. City driving mas maganda naman A/T lalo na pag traffic

That mostly applies to older A/Ts. Newer ones are more intelligent and will automatically down-shift or up-shift depending on road grade, speed, engine load, RPM, throttle position and brake pedal position.

For rare situations wherein you need to lock or limit the A/T's intervention, a set of fixed gear positions (ie. L1, 1, 2 or L2), limited gearing (ie. D3) and/or sequential manual gearing are usually available to give the driver a bit more flexibility. But in most typical driving situations, you'll be fine with D.

[shadow3616931]

That mostly applies to older A/Ts. Newer ones are more intelligent and will automatically down-shift or up-shift depending on road grade, speed, engine load, RPM, throttle position and brake pedal position.

For rare situations wherein you need to lock or limit the A/T's intervention, a set of fixed gear positions (ie. L1, 1, 2 or L2), limited gearing (ie. D3) and/or sequential manual gearing are usually available to give the driver a bit more flexibility. But in most typical driving situations, you'll be fine with D.

My A/T car is 09 Fortuner 2.7 vvti I don't think this is old, my previous a/t cars were Xtrail 200X, City idsi 7 speed CVT, neither these.

IMO, M/T is better during uphill you can proactively select to the correct gear right on time before the speed drops due to inclination, not like in A/T it's a reactive shifting, it will shift if it senses difficulty, there is already a drop in speed before it down shifts so bitin. That's why I use 2 during uphill like kennon, its shifting is quicker than D

[ans_lim168]

If I'm going to drive through flooded streets water level around half the wheel base, I would definitely not be wanting to drive my a/t car, any floods m/t is the only thing for me.

[p_borj]

If I'm going to drive through flooded streets water level around half the wheel base, I would definitely not be wanting to drive my a/t car, any floods m/t is the only thing for me.

yup, palit lang ng gear oil kung malalim talaga ang baha pero at least kaya pang paandarin at of course, any gear oil will do.

sa matic, masyadong sensitive pagdating sa ATF, maaari pang malitson kapag nalusong hehe.

anyway, bihira lang naman yung ganitong pagkakataon siguro.

[oj88]

If I'm going to drive through flooded streets water level around half the wheel base, I would definitely not be wanting to drive my a/t car, any floods m/t is the only thing for me.

But technically, you stand a better chance of driving out of a flood in an A/T than on an M/T. A/T assemblies are practically sealed. The only time water could get in is through the breather tube or dip-stick. However, these are usually situated high up and above the A/T assembly. All friction parts in an A/T are effectively sealed from the outside.

On the other hand, once water breaches the clutch housing of the M/T assembly (which is one of the lowest parts of the car), you're likely to be immobilized.

[lazyfoot]

But technically, you stand a better chance of driving out of a flood in an A/T than on an M/T. A/T assemblies are practically sealed. The only time water could get in is through the breather tube or dip-stick. However, these are usually situated high up and above the A/T assembly. All friction parts in an A/T are effectively sealed from the outside.

On the other hand, once water breaches the clutch housing of the M/T assembly (which is one of the lowest parts of the car), you're likely to be immobilized.

I agree! Have driven both A/t and M/T in flooded street, AT is better.

[oj88]

Blip!

Double post.

[ans_lim168]

But technically, you stand a better chance of driving out of a flood in an A/T than on an M/T. A/T assemblies are practically sealed. The only time water could get in is through the breather tube or dip-stick. However, these are usually situated high up and above the A/T assembly. All friction parts in an A/T are effectively sealed from the outside.

On the other hand, once water breaches the clutch housing of the M/T assembly (which is one of the lowest parts of the car), you're likely to be immobilized.

Just yesterday when it rained heavily, the flood outside our street is about 4 and a half inch deep, my City type Z m/t was able to wade through the flooded street, our Civic Vti 2000 although may be able to pass our streets but I would not gamble on my car's a/t.

I was able to negotiate the flooded street in 5 to 10 minutes at 1st gear around 10kms per hour, versus my vti the gear would have to shift to 2nd when I hit at least 20 kms/hr, otherwise the car would stay in 1st gear around 1.5k at the tacometer, that would not be an ideal position to be in the flood.

[niky]

But technically, you stand a better chance of driving out of a flood in an A/T than on an M/T. A/T assemblies are practically sealed. The only time water could get in is through the breather tube or dip-stick. However, these are usually situated high up and above the A/T assembly. All friction parts in an A/T are effectively sealed from the outside.

On the other hand, once water breaches the clutch housing of the M/T assembly (which is one of the lowest parts of the car), you're likely to be immobilized.

During Ondoy, I spent several hours driving through floods for relief missions in my manual transmission Crosswind... in water so deep that my electrical system conked out at times.

Manual trannies are not vulnerable to floods. Most modern automatics, on the other hand, are electronically controlled... and unless they're specifically sealed, those control modules can short... and from experience... they cost a heck of a lot.