2012 Fuso Canter FE vs. Isuzu NKR (4HG1-T)

**ronw123w124** · March 25th, 2014 11:14 PM

Kung ako hanap ka na lang ng 2nd hand na local orig LHD na Canter tapos ikaw na ang mag recon.

**userfriendly** · March 26th, 2014 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

How much is it now? Yung kakilala nagpaquote ng recon na 4 wheels na Isuzu NKR w/ Aluminum closed van from Sobida, nagulat ako sa presyo, its now 750k, sobra naman yata yun for a surplus truck!

Mahal nga. I googled ISUZU price list and it shows that a 4W NKR cab chassis is 1,018,000 while the 2.7 ton version is 1,120,000 plus the aluminum van. With brand new, your almost sure to get a good unit. With recon, we dont know what parts they used and replaced. If your lucky the recon will be almost as good as a new unit. If not you might be buying a headache.

Personally, I'll go for the new unit. Had enough problems with second hand trucks. If you can't come up with enough money for a cash purchase, one can always finance. I think interest rates are around 7% a year.

**basti08** · March 26th, 2014 10:46 AM

Mag 1 yr na FE71 namin. So far wala naman problem. It also replaced our old surplus Canter which has served us well.

Problem kasi sa marketing ng Isuzu 4W NKR (4300kg gross wt) is only 2.8L. Yung 4HG1-T (4.6L), gross wt is 4500kg, pasok na sa truck ban. Wala na silang NKR na 3.6L. Kaya napilitan kami sa 3.9L na FE71.

Sa ibang province nga 4000kgs gross wt pasok na sa local ordinance b*ll sh!t nila eh (ex. Sta. Maria, Bulacan 4000kgs gross weight pasok na sa truck ban, need ng sticker para di hulihin)... 4500kgs pasok sa national truck ban lalo sa local ordinances.

**number001** · March 26th, 2014 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

How much is it now?

From Mitsubishi Philippines website:

Canter FE71 C/C 3.9L Dsl MT (4 Wheeler) 1,150,000
Canter FE83 C/C 3.9L Dsl MT (6 Wheeler) 1,285,000

**number001** · March 26th, 2014 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by basti08

Mag 1 yr na FE71 namin. So far wala naman problem. It also replaced our old surplus Canter which has served us well.

Problem kasi sa marketing ng Isuzu 4W NKR (4300kg gross wt) is only 2.8L. Yung 4HG1-T (4.6L), gross wt is 4500kg, pasok na sa truck ban. Wala na silang NKR na 3.6L. Kaya napilitan kami sa 3.9L na FE71.

Sa ibang province nga 4000kgs gross wt pasok na sa local ordinance b*ll sh!t nila eh (ex. Sta. Maria, Bulacan 4000kgs gross weight pasok na sa truck ban, need ng sticker para di hulihin)... 4500kgs pasok sa national truck ban lalo sa local ordinances.

Thanks for the tip basti! Our company was about to buy the NKR bec. the NHR is underpowered for our cargo requirements (heavy cargo only - not light and bulky stuff). I find our country's regulations a bit odd. NKR and NHR are dimensionally similar (except for the 4.6Li in the NKR) yet NKR is now considered part of the truck ban just bec. it has a more capable payload? An NPR ( a six wheeler) is understandably part of the truck ban. But an NKR?! sheesh

What if its NKR with the FB type body ? Is it still part of the truck ban ?

**number001** · March 26th, 2014 11:07 AM

We also looked at buying Sobida until I read about this....

http://tsikot.com/forums/philippine-...46/index4.html

I also know somebody who bought an Isuzu N series with FB body two years who is now using a local brand new Isuzu NKR with FB body.

**basti08** · March 26th, 2014 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by number001

From Mitsubishi Philippines website:

Canter FE71 C/C 3.9L Dsl MT (4 Wheeler) 1,150,000
Canter FE83 C/C 3.9L Dsl MT (6 Wheeler) 1,285,000

Kaya yan ng 1.085M yung 4 Wheels ;)

Originally Posted by number001

Thanks for the tip basti! Our company was about to buy the NKR bec. the NHR is underpowered for our cargo requirements (heavy cargo only - not light and bulky stuff). I find our country's regulations a bit odd. NKR and NHR are dimensionally similar (except for the 4.6Li in the NKR) yet NKR is now considered part of the truck ban just bec. it has a more capable payload? An NPR ( a six wheeler) is understandably part of the truck ban. But an NKR?! sheesh

What if its NKR with the FB type body ? Is it still part of the truck ban ?

I dunno with the FB body type. Pero yung amin is aluminum van kasi. Isuzu used to offer a 3.6L 4W na 4300GVW (Turbo, i think) before kaso tinanggal nila. Sabi nga ng SA: Kaya kami natatalo ni Subida kasi mas flexible engine options nila, tapos nagagawa pa nilang 'UV' ang registration kasi 6Wheels bilhin mo sa kanila kaya coding lang problema.

Pinaka magandang compromise na yung FE71 kasi 3.9L Turbo, 4W, 4300GVW lang. At least within the city 4500GVW lang talaga ang pasok sa truck ban. Sa mga small municipalities/provinces lang naman may mga katarantaduhan na >4000kgs GVW ang truck ban.

**number001** · March 26th, 2014 11:26 AM

basti, talaga ba gawang Japan ang Canter ?

Any markings to indicate if it did originate from Japan ?

Tell tale signs will be the tires.

**ronw123w124** · March 26th, 2014 11:36 AM

The reason I asked for the prices of brand new units dahil ang average age ng mga 4 wheeler trucks dito sa amin is around 20 years already although in good running condition pa naman (Canter and Isuzu NKR) but then kahit anong sabihin mo 20 years old is still 20 years old and some has already logged as high as 600,000km on the clock, was thinking of gradually replacing our fleet with the Canter FE71 kasi ang mahal na rin nung surplus, eh kung China truck din lang naman I'll just stick with our old trucks.