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    #1921
    Quote Originally Posted by markygy View Post
    Tanong mo sa seller if the more expensive type has a aluminum layer. Yun mga generic type like the acoustipad you mentioned does not have aluminum layer. Mas malinis at mas heat resistant ang mga butyl rubber type deadeing material that has a aluminum layer.

    With regards on using the filters on your amp or HU. You neither use one of them since your speakers comes with passive filters already. Just turn off the HPF on the HU and set the the filters of the amp to off or all pass. If the amplifier does not come with the option of setting the filters to off or all pass, leave the settings to HPF.
    I'm not too sure about it being more heat resistant. After all, it's not as if you're reflecting the actual rays of the sun when it's inside the door pane and I believe the peeps at DIYMA looks for it more like a marketing gimmick more than anything else.

    However, it does look more clean and if aesthetics is the basis of the purchase I think it warrants the added cost.

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    #1922
    Also, acoustipad is an asphalt-based deadener. Know it's pros- and cons-.

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    #1923
    [QUOTE=jhnkvn;2725469]I'm not too sure about it being more heat resistant. After all, it's not as if you're reflecting the actual rays of the sun when it's inside the door pane and I believe the peeps at DIYMA looks for it more like a marketing gimmick more than anything else.

    Yes, to be honest I too feel the same way.

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    #1924
    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    There's nothing wrong with a speaker being underpowered. What's dangerous is when you do the opposite -- overpowering (aka turning the volume knob as if you're trying for 180dB) as it leads to mechanical failures (ex. burnt coils, etc.)

    What's dangerous is an uninformed person having a low-wattage amplifier. More often than not, he's turning the volume all the way up and then damaging the poor speaker in the process.
    my bad, ito nga ibig ko sabihin.
    mahina na amp ng HU tapos high volume level.

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    #1925
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    my bad, ito nga ibig ko sabihin.
    mahina na amp ng HU tapos high volume level.
    Idol, balita ko magpapalit ka ng HU ah? Congrats in advance hehe. Kakapalit ko din ng HU after 1 million years. Malaki nga difference if Highlevel input vs RCA out. Bypassing the internal amp of the HU, made the background black-er. Plus mas malinis yung LF ngayon. Sulit ang upgrade! Here are some pics para pangkulam.

    Palit wiring from HU to Processor kasi RCA out na.


    Finished product.


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    #1926
    Thanks po sa mga replies re: Sound Deadening materials.


    Ask ko lang din po kung ano recommended 4 channel amp na nasa 10k to 15k range for my Focal PS165F separates and pioneer rear coaxials? My HU is Pioneer 2850BT, Sound Magus C160 AMP and fully deadened doors.

    So far eto mga nakita ko:

    JL JX360/4

    Rockford Fosgate P600X4 (will get this from Amazon)

    Digital Design C4( A friend of mine is offering his at 8k)

    Precision Power P900.4 (will get this from Amazon)

    Digital Design C5B (Sa website ng DDaudio MK2 sa Frisco yung dealer nila which is near our place kaso di ko na ma contact phone number nila)


    Also saw a video on youtube about sa Network Mode feature ng Pioneer 2850BT wherein yung 4 channel amp is dedicated na sa Front Tweeters and Front Woofer. Di nila na feature kung paano i wire yung speakers, di ko na ba gagamitin yung passive Xovers ng Seps ko? Derecho ko na wire yung Tweets and woofer sa 4 channels ng amp ko?

    Naka -3 na kasi sa Xover yung tweeters ko pero parang mas nasasapawa niya yung 6 inch woofers. If naka network mode pwede ko hinaan and/or taasan yung volume ng woofers.
    Last edited by jmpet626; May 24th, 2016 at 07:10 PM.

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    #1927
    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Thanks po sa mga replies re: Sound Deadening materials.


    Ask ko lang din po kung ano recommended 4 channel amp na nasa 10k to 15k range for my Focal PS165F separates and pioneer rear coaxials? My HU is Pioneer 2850BT, Sound Magus C160 AMP and fully deadened doors.

    So far eto mga nakita ko:

    JL JX360/4

    Rockford Fosgate P600X4 (will get this from Amazon)

    Digital Design C4( A friend of mine is offering his at 8k)

    Precision Power P900.4 (will get this from Amazon)

    Digital Design C5B (Sa website ng DDaudio MK2 sa Frisco yung dealer nila which is near our place kaso di ko na ma contact phone number nila)


    Also saw a video on youtube about sa Network Mode feature ng Pioneer 2850BT wherein yung 4 channel amp is dedicated na sa Front Tweeters and Front Woofer. Di nila na feature kung paano i wire yung speakers, di ko na ba gagamitin yung passive Xovers ng Seps ko? Derecho ko na wire yung Tweets and woofer sa 4 channels ng amp ko?

    Naka -3 na kasi sa Xover yung tweeters ko pero parang mas nasasapawa niya yung 6 inch woofers. If naka network mode pwede ko hinaan and/or taasan yung volume ng woofers.
    It is still advisable if you can purchase your audio gears from a shop that can do the install as well. This is for after sales support. Anyway, for your budget, you might want to consider the Audio System MX-line 4.75 to be paired with your focal seps. It costs less than 15k the last I saw it online.

    If I where on your shoes, susubukan ko muna yun nabanggit mo na NETWORK mode sa HU with the amplifier that you have. If your wondering how you will wire the speakers to your amplifier. Eto po ang gagawin nila. Assuming that the Front RCA of the HU was used for the signal for your seps and the rear RCA of the HU was for the coaxial. Since naka kabit na ang amplifier all you have to do is remove the passive cross over that came with your seps. The wire for the tweeters will go to channels 1&2 of the amp and the wire for the midbass will go the channels 3&4 on the amp. Bale tatangalin mo na yun coaxial speakers mo since the 4 channel amp will be dedicated for the tweeters and mid-bass. With a ACTIVE configuration, you can now control the level of the tweeters using the HU. Do not forget to set the HU to network mode and setting the levels of the amp's filters to all pass or off before doing your wiring

    Wiring your speakers active needs good understanding po. Making all the right wiring is one thing while tuning the speakers active is another. Better to have a shop do it for you if this is your first attempt on wiring your speakers active.
    Good Luck!

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    #1928
    Quote Originally Posted by markygy View Post
    It is still advisable if you can purchase your audio gears from a shop that can do the install as well. This is for after sales support. Anyway, for your budget, you might want to consider the Audio System MX-line 4.75 to be paired with your focal seps. It costs less than 15k the last I saw it online.

    If I where on your shoes, susubukan ko muna yun nabanggit mo na NETWORK mode sa HU with the amplifier that you have. If your wondering how you will wire the speakers to your amplifier. Eto po ang gagawin nila. Assuming that the Front RCA of the HU was used for the signal for your seps and the rear RCA of the HU was for the coaxial. Since naka kabit na ang amplifier all you have to do is remove the passive cross over that came with your seps. The wire for the tweeters will go to channels 1&2 of the amp and the wire for the midbass will go the channels 3&4 on the amp. Bale tatangalin mo na yun coaxial speakers mo since the 4 channel amp will be dedicated for the tweeters and mid-bass. With a ACTIVE configuration, you can now control the level of the tweeters using the HU. Do not forget to set the HU to network mode and setting the levels of the amp's filters to all pass or off before doing your wiring

    Wiring your speakers active needs good understanding po. Making all the right wiring is one thing while tuning the speakers active is another. Better to have a shop do it for you if this is your first attempt on wiring your speakers active.
    Good Luck!

    Thank you for the advise sir. Ipapa wire ko na lang kay Jet Car audio since sakanila ko nakuha yung

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    #1929
    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Thanks po sa mga replies re: Sound Deadening materials.


    Ask ko lang din po kung ano recommended 4 channel amp na nasa 10k to 15k range for my Focal PS165F separates and pioneer rear coaxials? My HU is Pioneer 2850BT, Sound Magus C160 AMP and fully deadened doors.

    So far eto mga nakita ko:

    JL JX360/4

    Rockford Fosgate P600X4 (will get this from Amazon)

    Digital Design C4( A friend of mine is offering his at 8k)

    Precision Power P900.4 (will get this from Amazon)

    Digital Design C5B (Sa website ng DDaudio MK2 sa Frisco yung dealer nila which is near our place kaso di ko na ma contact phone number nila)


    Also saw a video on youtube about sa Network Mode feature ng Pioneer 2850BT wherein yung 4 channel amp is dedicated na sa Front Tweeters and Front Woofer. Di nila na feature kung paano i wire yung speakers, di ko na ba gagamitin yung passive Xovers ng Seps ko? Derecho ko na wire yung Tweets and woofer sa 4 channels ng amp ko?

    Naka -3 na kasi sa Xover yung tweeters ko pero parang mas nasasapawa niya yung 6 inch woofers. If naka network mode pwede ko hinaan and/or taasan yung volume ng woofers.
    From your choices, I'll go with Rockford. Pero if you can extend a bit more, maganda yung recommendation ni Sir Mark, yung Audio System. Or if you'd like a true and tested pairing, Audison ;) Sakto na ang SR4 dyan. That is what I am running on my 165FX.

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    #1930
    Good pm mga sirs, hingi lang po ako ng tulong at advise regarding sa 8750bt at 5850bt
    Ano po difference ng dalawang unit in terms of features po?
    Ano po prefer niyo second hand na 8750 otr brandnew na 5850bt?

    Maraming salamat po

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