Going to Hong Kong thread [Merged]

[uls]

Excuse me but did somebody die from the rioting/vandalism spree in HK?

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my point

what's the death toll since the protests began months ago?

the HK police have been very very tolerant

if this happened in some other country madami na namatay

i mentioned the protests happening now in Iraq

ilan araw palang 100+ dead

[uls]

Well it's like this, if you see a Ferrari crashed besides the road, anong una mong isipin, d ba sayang ang Ferrari??? Hehehehe

As for the picture, well sayang talaga, ilang years din na maintain yung magandang subway system nila then sisirain lng ng mga protesters.

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my point

protestors destroy their own world class infrastructure

tayo sa Pinas we can only dream of having that kind of efficient public transport

ungrateful Hongkongers

[madball]

Parang yung iba already left when the British turned over hk to China, some yata came back, some don't. As to they should move out, they can't kasi US and UK won't accept them kasi they're not British or US citizens but a HK chinese citizen.

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Plenty of other democratic countries to choose from. If US and UK really care about the lives of those people then maybe they should let them in instead of encouraging them to fight a battle they have a very little chance of winning.

[shadow]

Parang yung iba already left when the British turned over hk to China, some yata came back, some don't. As to they should move out, they can't kasi US and UK won't accept them kasi they're not British or US citizens but a HK chinese citizen.

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Lots of them moved to british Columbia


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[vinrem]

Plenty of other democratic countries to choose from. If US and UK really care about the lives of those people then maybe they should let them in instead of encouraging them to fight a battle they have a very little chance of winning.

Sa akin lang, US don't care, what they care more is magkagulo pa ang isang country para they can sell their arms and expand their bases in Asia, look at Syria, may Syrian friend ako dito that has lost a lot bcoz of the war, maganda na daw buhay nila dati sa Syria, until US meddled with their country politics.

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[uls]

Those protesters think the US cares about them

They're delusional

To the US those protesters are just pawns

The US is hoping China would send in the military and start shooting live rounds and run over protesters with tanks

That will give the US an excuse to intervene

China has been holding back... Not doing what the US expects

Masyado pakialamero ang US

[vinrem]

Those protesters think the US cares about them

They're delusional

To the US those protesters are just pawns

The US is hoping China would send in the military and start shooting live rounds and run over protesters with tanks

That will give the US an excuse to intervene

China has been holding back... Not doing what the US expects

Masyado pakialamero ang US

Hahaha tama ka bro, akala nila China will take the bait, but yung nga lang, they're really testing China's patience.

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Hong Kong police warn protesters against 'brutal attacks' on citizens - CNA

[nelany]

Excuse me but did somebody die from the rioting/vandalism spree in HK?

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Meron, yung isang protester na nahulog sa mall. Accident.

[heavenlee]

Excuse me but did somebody die from the rioting/vandalism spree in HK?

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I don't get your question, sir. Are you asking if 1) somebody died from the "rioting/vandalism" that the protesters perpetrated? Or are you asking 2) if somebody died due to police brutality? Or are you asking 3) if somebody died in the hands of pro-Beijing vigilantes? Please clarify.

[heavenlee]

Hong Kong police warn protesters against 'brutal attacks' on citizens - CNA

The picture on the left (man in red) is that of the taxi driver who ran over protesters. Naturally, he got mobbed, beaten. What did he expect? A welcoming committee?

[heavenlee]

Well it's like this, if you see a Ferrari crashed besides the road, anong una mong isipin, d ba sayang ang Ferrari??? Hehehehe

As for the picture, well sayang talaga, ilang years din na maintain yung magandang subway system nila then sisirain lng ng mga protesters.

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Yes, sir. Human beings being what they are today, mourn the loss of property more than the loss of human lives. Human lives are not worth sh*t anymore in today's callous, materialistic world. Just saying.

[Monseratto]

I don't get your question, sir. Are you asking if 1) somebody died from the "rioting/vandalism" that the protesters perpetrated? Or are you asking 2) if somebody died due to police brutality? Or are you asking 3) if somebody died in the hands of pro-Beijing vigilantes? Please clarify.

Gee, you tell me... you're the one who claims lives that were lost are more important than property damage in the protest.

Some care more about property damage than the human lives that were lost.

CTTO --

[heavenlee]

Gee, you tell me... you're the one who claims lives that were lost are more important than property damage in the protest.

You, sir, have jumped to a conclusion. I was making a separate point for a while there, but I see your confusion.

Just because I said that people today feel more sorrow at seing a non-living thing get damaged or destroyed than seing a human being die -- or suffer or get injured or generally get hurt -- does not mean I'm saying there are people who died in the HK protests. In fact I'm not saying anyone died because as far as I know, no one, at least officially, has died over there from whichever side. Lots got hurt and seriously injured, though. A journalist lost an eye. Others lost limbs. A number still in ICU.

Yet the MTR, which can be rebuilt for sure, gets more tears. There's a disconnect.

Hope that is clearer, sir.

[vinrem]

Yes, sir. Human beings being what they are today, mourn the loss of property more than the loss of human lives. Human lives are not worth sh*t anymore in today's callous, materialistic world. Just saying.

Yeah agree with you, it's like naging materialistic na tayo.

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[vinrem]

You, sir, have jumped to a conclusion. I was making a separate point for a while there, but I see your confusion.

Just because I said that people today feel more sorrow at seing a non-living thing get damaged or destroyed than seing a human being die -- or suffer or get injured or generally get hurt -- does not mean I'm saying there are people who died in the HK protests. In fact I'm not saying anyone died because as far as I know, no one, at least officially, has died over there from whichever side. Lots got hurt and seriously injured, though. A journalist lost an eye. Others lost limbs. A number still in ICU.

Yet the MTR, which can be rebuilt for sure, gets more tears. There's a disconnect.

Hope that is clearer, sir.

Pero I think mas lucky pa rin protesters sa HK, ganun na ginawa nila like destroying public property and even private property ay wala pang namatay kasi the police are holding back, gawin nila sa US or UK na mag riot kung same treatment pa rin matatanggap nila.

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[uls]

it takes far less provocation for American policemen to shoot people specially black people

wanna talk about the value of human life?

black lives are far less precious than white lives no?

i don't hear compassionate heavenlee take that into consideration

he OBVIOUSLY is politically biased on this issue

basta ginawa ng protesters ok lang

pero pag ginawa ng China masama

[uls]

i'm sure he wouldn't have the same compassion towards HK policemen beaten up by protesters

anti-China/pro-US/anti-Du30/pro-dengvaxia political bias

[heavenlee]

it takes far less provocation for American policemen to shoot people specially black people

wanna talk about the value of human life?

black lives are far less precious than white lives no?

i don't hear compassionate heavenlee take that into consideration

he OBVIOUSLY has political biased on this issue

basta ginawa ng protesters ok lang

pero pag ginawa ng China masama

Guess I did not make myself clear so many times. Lots of forumers confused. Must be the heat, or my poor choice of words? But let me quote myself again, cut and paste, hope this works --

Is what China doing to NBA also right? Even Alibaba and Vivo have joined the fray against the NBA. China is like a cult, follow the leader, no questions asked. No morals, no ethics, no conscience, no God. And like I said, tit for tat, an eye for an eye is what's moving everyone out there embroiled in the situation. Violence begets violence. I'm not saying it's correct, though, for both sides. Lastly, on breaking the law -- both sides are doing it with almost equal magnitude. And of course one side will say the other side started it first.

Though I may have sympathy for the protesters, I don't agree with them resorting to violence. Especially violence aimed at other human beings. Hope that is clearer.

[heavenlee]

i'm sure he wouldn't have the same compassion towards HK policemen beaten up by protesters

anti-China/pro-US/anti-Du30/pro-dengvaxia political bias

I already explained in above earlier post (on compassion and violence), so I'll leave it at that.

I just notice, sir, and I have to say this out loud, but you have this "irritating" habit of labeling people. Putting them in small neat boxes with neat little labels -- Anti-du30, pro-us, "yellows", etc. etc., for whatever purpose it serves your mind. As if a human being is just all that. Well, hope sooner or later you'll find out what's wrong with what you're doing. Just saying.