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    #1681
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i'm sure he wouldn't have the same compassion towards HK policemen beaten up by protesters

    anti-China/pro-US/anti-Du30/pro-dengvaxia political bias
    Pro dalian train which was made in china

    Chang kai shek is right..you cant trust communist china

    Hong kong is a failed autonomy

    This all happened for a reason..FREEDOM

    TAIWAN has always been free from communist china

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    #1682
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Who does? Answer: No one. So mankind is doomed?
    Not really. It's just the way it is in politics and international affairs. Those who are in power usually don't care about morals and values when their interests are at stake.
    “The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”

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    #1684
    Quote Originally Posted by madball View Post
    Not really. It's just the way it is in politics and international affairs. Those who are in power usually don't care about morals and values when their interests are at stake.
    “The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
    Go to an even bigger bully to help you defend yourself from the person bullying you -- it's the way of the world. US is still bigger than China. So everyone gravitates to them. Does not mean they have moral highground, but you know China's scares Sh*t of them, for now.

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    #1685
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    If China can terrorize big corporations like that, imagine how China terrorizes the individual? "Scary" is an understatement.
    Big company yes, but individual lalo na yung citizens nila I don't think so, I've been living in China for quite some time now and wala naman akong nakikitang they've been terrorizing their citizens, but well it depends also if that individual criticize the government then you can expect a knock on your door, but I think they need to do that, they are governing 1B+ people, so they really need to govern with an iron hand, like what my late friend from Taiwan said, democracy is not for everyone, think about it, if China is democratic country now, sobrang gulo siguro dito, mas magulo pa nga diyan sa pinas eh, we can't walk alone in the middle of the night without being mugged or held up, dito I can walk alone without fear that someone will rob you.

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    #1686

    didn't click the link

    probably another politically biased article from Western media... that Apple is afraid of China

    to balance things out here's why Apple removed the app

    Last edited by uls; October 10th, 2019 at 12:46 PM.

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    #1687
    I'd like to see the cockroaches smash their Iphones and vandalise Apple stores... Using the same reason they used in vandalising the MTR stations...

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    #1688
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Go to an even bigger bully to help you defend yourself from the person bullying you -- it's the way of the world. US is still bigger than China. So everyone gravitates to them. Does not mean they have moral highground, but you know China's scares Sh*t of them, for now.
    In the arms race, US is 20 years ahead of China sa technology, but yun nga lang, US now is afraid of China bcoz China now has the money and resources to build its weapons, remember that China is good at copying kahit ano hahahaha.

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    #1689
    HK policemen are real people too

    they're somebody's son, father, husband

    an app the endangers their lives needs to be removed

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    In the arms race, US is 20 years ahead of China sa technology, but yun nga lang, US now is afraid of China bcoz China now has the money and resources to build its weapons, remember that China is good at copying kahit ano hahahaha.

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    which is why the US is trying to weaken China

    the trade war is more than a trade war

    tariffs, blacklisting China companies

    US goal is to cripple China's economy

    US goal is to prevent China's rise

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    #1691
    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    In the arms race, US is 20 years ahead of China sa technology, but yun nga lang, US now is afraid of China bcoz China now has the money and resources to build its weapons, remember that China is good at copying kahit ano hahahaha.

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    How come a nation with clear advantage be afraid of the one which is perceived weaker?

    US is cocked & loaded..daring china to pull the trigger with freedom of navigation exercises in south china sea as bait

    Do you believe china has the balls?

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    ayan na naman tayo

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    #1693
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    How come a nation with clear advantage be afraid of the one which is perceived weaker?

    US is cocked & loaded..daring china to pull the trigger with freedom of navigation exercises in south china sea as bait

    Do you believe china has the balls?

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    China I think is not afraid of US, but they're not ready yet kaya kahit anong provocation gawin ng US, di sila kakagat kasi alam nila they will loose, kaya they're being patient for the mean time.

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    #1694
    now let's see if HK protesters will smash and burn Apple stores

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    #1695
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    which is why the US is trying to weaken China

    the trade war is more than a trade war

    tariffs, blacklisting China companies

    US goal is to cripple China's economy

    US goal is to prevent China's rise
    Since h.s , china has been known to be sleeping giant...

    Ngayon gising na gising na.... their assets are all over the world... kaya ingat na ingat sila sa action kasi u.s and its allies are watching every moves they make... one mistake move, may reason and chance ang kalaban na patulogin ang giant pero it will come with a price...


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    #1696
    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    Big company yes, but individual lalo na yung citizens nila I don't think so, I've been living in China for quite some time now and wala naman akong nakikitang they've been terrorizing their citizens, but well it depends also if that individual criticize the government then you can expect a knock on your door, but I think they need to do that, they are governing 1B+ people, so they really need to govern with an iron hand, like what my late friend from Taiwan said, democracy is not for everyone, think about it, if China is democratic country now, sobrang gulo siguro dito, mas magulo pa nga diyan sa pinas eh, we can't walk alone in the middle of the night without being mugged or held up, dito I can walk alone without fear that someone will rob you.

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    Yes, I don't disagree wtih you sir. There should ba a balance in everything to achieve harmony. Too much of anything is bad. Too much freedom, and too much restrictions are both not good for the soul.

    But you can't have power concentrated to one side only. This leads to abuse. Both sides, the governed and those governing should have power -- not necessarily equal power -- to counter each other to balance things out when necessary. That is the way to harmony.

    As I see it, the Chinese government of today have too much power, and even clinging on to that power like leeches, for the longest time that they can cling on to it. Like forever.

    As you pointed out, individuals can't even speak out against the Chinese government if the government happen to do something wrong, without consequences coming back to them. Those who find the courage to do so gets jailed, or worse. That's what I meant by "terrorize the individual" -- those individuals who dare to stand up against tyranny were snuffed out -- and that kind of terrorizing is never good in my book.

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    #1697
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    didn't click the link

    probably another politically biased article from Western media... that Apple is afraid of China

    to balance things out here's why Apple removed the app

    AH, the mysteries of life. I find it funny and ironic, sir, that you didn't click the link because of your pre-conceived biases and labels, and yet you inadvertently ended up posting a portion of it through your quoted piece. For your information and elightenment, that same quote you posted was actually in the article I linked if you were open enough to read it. Heh heh.

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    #1698
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    I'd like to see the cockroaches smash their Iphones and vandalise Apple stores... Using the same reason they used in vandalising the MTR stations...
    And starbucks, don't forget starbucks.

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    #1699
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    which is why the US is trying to weaken China

    the trade war is more than a trade war

    tariffs, blacklisting China companies

    US goal is to cripple China's economy

    US goal is to prevent China's rise
    And there it is again.

    Of course it goes without saying that the US looks after itself first and foremost, just as China looks after itself first and foremost. The difference is who do you side with? Which bully do you support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    In the arms race, US is 20 years ahead of China sa technology, but yun nga lang, US now is afraid of China bcoz China now has the money and resources to build its weapons, remember that China is good at copying kahit ano hahahaha.

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    That's why BIG is bad. Big corporations, BIG governments, they're all the same. US grew so big, it became bully #1. China is bully #2 now that it's gaining in BIGness. Concentrated power, concentrated money -- all bad, because humans being humans will abuse that power, that money.

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