Traffic!

**eLai** · January 19th, 2011 08:13 PM

Have you ever been in a traffic jam?
How long was it and what's the cause?

I was once caught in traffic for 4.5 hrs at C5 enroute from the fort to mandaluyong. The cause? Traffic enforcers! They really enforce traffic conditions!

grrrrrrrrr

**shadow** · January 19th, 2011 08:20 PM

meron bang hinde pa natratraffic dito sa Manila?

**lowslowbenz** · January 19th, 2011 09:10 PM

CAMPI posted record hitting sales last 2010 ... I think the end result is obvious ..

**green_machine** · January 19th, 2011 11:04 PM

Reasons kung bakit nagkaka-traffic sa tingin ko:

1. Simply too much vehicles on the road. Recent models have been really good, and more people are able to afford cars because of more flexible loan packages. It's also an indication of the people's growing income. On the other hand, we also have too much buses and jeeps (many of which are barely full).

2. Poor and inadequate infrastructure. We still need much more road infrastructure to accommodate more vehicles. As for our existing ones, many are in disrepair, which then hamper the smooth flow of traffic. Also, we need more rapid transit systems so that people will use those instead of their cars.

3. Drivers lack discipline. No need to elaborate on that.

4. Poor reinforcement of traffic rules and regulations.

**desert fox** · January 19th, 2011 11:13 PM

wala kasi phase out system sa atin....padagdag nag padagdag ang sasakyan, pero nababawasan lang kapag naaksidente ang sasakyan....

o di kaya nachopchop ng mga kawatan ang mga nacarnap....

wala ding ipinagkaiba sa populasyon natin.....palobo ng palobo....

hanggang walang phaseout system lalo na sa mga public utility vehicles,

lalong lalala ang traffic sa mga susunod na mga taon.....

pwera na lang kung gawin 100pesos per liter ang gasolina....

Sad but true...

Masdan nyo mga jeepneys sa daan, mga buses....daming karagkarag na....delikado pa sa mga tao sa disgrasya...

**istan** · January 20th, 2011 12:21 AM

Just last sunday, from Naia Rd to Agila building (Sucat Road). 2.5 hrs considering its less than 2 kms away.

Reason? May stage sa gitna ng kalye. Fiesta, 1 lane passable lng. Talk about selfishness. &*%(&*($! Gitna ng Kalye talaga ang performance nyo ha!

**lowslowbenz** · January 20th, 2011 12:26 AM

Pag natuloy ang "Phase-out System" na yan ... lahat na kotse ko phase-out na ....

**desert fox** · January 20th, 2011 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

Pag natuloy ang "Phase-out System" na yan ... lahat na kotse ko phase-out na ....

bakit bro, ilang taon na ba mga sasakyan mo?

di naman ibig sabihin na kapag nagkaroon ng phase out system, pati private cars ay sakop kaagad...

pwede itong umpisahan sa mga Public utility vehicle...

mga lumang buses o jeepney at taxi, pwede naman ibenta sa probinsya yan...

Then saka isunod naman ang mga pribadong sasakyan...

kung gustong gamitin pa din ang mga antigong sasakyan, me extra tax dapat yan...bago pumasok sa MM...o yung mismong taga MM ang mga may-ari,sa pagpaparehistro pa lang me extra tax na yan...(sorry bro...

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Bakit kailangang patagalin pa...dapat magkaroon na ng phase out system...

sigurado akong epektibo ito, pero sa pag-implementa ng batas lang magkakatalo...sigurado maraming magrereklamo, pero pansinin naman natin ang lumalala nang trapiko...lalo pang mas lalala yan sa mga susunod pang mga taon.

maski dagdagan pa ng sangkatutak na flyovers o mga C5s, ganun pa din...

color coding? walang nangyari...ganun pa din..

dapat magbawas ng sasakyan at isabatas na ang Phase out system ng sasakyan sa Metro Manila..

just my 25centimo mga kapatid..

**samcoy** · January 20th, 2011 01:39 PM

Part na ng buhay natin yan araw-araw either you have you're own car or riding public utility vehicle. Root cause talaga nyan dito sa Metro Manila is over population. Let's say magbawas nga ng sasakyan so walang trapik. Kapalit sankatutak na stranded sa kalsada nag-aantay ng masasakyan lalo na pag-rush hour. So this is really a complicated problem to solve from the roots. Pero puede natin ma-reduce problem kung may disiplina nga lahat ng driver like avoiding yung singit ng singit. Problema kasi maraming palagi singit ng singit parang sila lang nagmamadali so yung may disiplina natutukso din sumingit dahil nga sa bad habit ng iba. Yung singit ng singit kasi lalo na sa bottle necks lalong nagiging ma-trapik tuloy. If everybody will just wait for their turn like falling in line mababawasan talaga trapik in those cases. About traffic enforcers I agree, nangyayari sa amin yan. Mas ma-trapik pa kapag ino-override nila yung traffic light. Hay....

**Starex_Gold** · January 20th, 2011 01:41 PM

Taxi lang ata may Phase out system. 13 years lang dapat.

Syempre 3rd world country tayo, hindi pwede every 5 years phase out ang Taxi.. :headache: Pero yan ang tama.

**renzo_d10** · January 20th, 2011 01:45 PM

imo yung phase-out system should be implemented on PUV's only.

Probably 10 years for every unit. Then ipakilo nalang after. :rofl01:

**desert fox** · January 20th, 2011 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by samcoy

Part na ng buhay natin yan araw-araw either you have you're own car or riding public utility vehicle. Root cause talaga nyan dito sa Metro Manila is over population. Let's say magbawas nga ng sasakyan so walang trapik. Kapalit sankatutak na stranded sa kalsada nag-aantay ng masasakyan lalo na pag-rush hour. So this is really a complicated problem to solve from the roots. Pero puede natin ma-reduce problem kung may disiplina nga lahat ng driver like avoiding yung singit ng singit. Problema kasi maraming palagi singit ng singit parang sila lang nagmamadali so yung may disiplina natutukso din sumingit dahil nga sa bad habit ng iba. Yung singit ng singit kasi lalo na sa bottle necks lalong nagiging ma-trapik tuloy. If everybody will just wait for their turn like falling in line mababawasan talaga trapik in those cases. About traffic enforcers I agree, nangyayari sa amin yan. Mas ma-trapik pa kapag ino-override nila yung traffic light. Hay....

isa sa mga cause ng traffic ay ang mga buses o jeepney na nag-aagawan sa mga pasahero, kapag nagkataon na mas marami ang pasahero, di na mag-aagawan ang mga pasaway na mga PUV...within 1 minute, larga na sila....di katulad ng sistema ngayon, bago at makalampas ng traffic lights, pansinin nyo mga PUVs, ang tagal nila...kahit GO na nandun pa din....kasi, naghihintay ng pasahero...

masusing pag-aaral lang ang kailangan...para sa implementasyon ng Phase out system....

*broSG, pwede naman makipagpulong sa mga operators, kung ilang taon ba ang nararapat di ba? kung 15,20 o 25...so be it basta masunod lang...

kung di gagawin ng gobyerno natin ito sa madaling panahon, talagang magdudusa tayo ng husto sa traffic....kasi ang dami ng ginawang experiment,wala pa din lalo pa din lumala...

*broRenzo, tiba tiba junkyards nito bro....

**renzo_d10** · January 20th, 2011 02:05 PM

May napanood ako sa news, isang bus company up to 7 years lang buses nila. Limot ko nalang kasi anong kompanya yun ...

Pucha ang myamy kaya ilang years na mga bus nila ? 274859374585 ? :rofl:

**desert fox** · January 20th, 2011 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by renzo_d10

May napanood ako sa news, isang bus company up to 7 years lang buses nila. Limot ko nalang kasi anong kompanya yun ...

Pucha ang myamy kaya ilang years na mga bus nila ? 274859374585 ? :rofl:

marami na talaga karag karag na PUVs na bumibiyahe sa kalsada ng MM di ba bro?

**renzo_d10** · January 20th, 2011 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by desert fox

marami na talaga karag karag na PUVs na bumibiyahe sa kalsada ng MM di ba bro?

Yup. Those Kia Prides, Corollas, Myamy buses to name a few.

I cannot distinguish though whether a certain PUJ is old or not since pipinturahan lang naman yun and it would look new again.

Barumbado pa mostly ang old buses, especially yung hindi airconditioned ...

**uls** · January 20th, 2011 02:26 PM

ang argument naman ng mga public utility vehicles regarding sa space na kinakain nila sa kalye -- buti pa sila madami tao sa loob ng sasakyan nila, samantala ang mga private vehicle, isa dalawa lang ang tao nasa loob ng sasakyan

ang dapat daw pigilian yung pagdami ng private vehicles

**tidus1203** · January 20th, 2011 02:27 PM

Eh buti nga kung mapuno nila eh madalas di naman nila mapuno...

**desert fox** · January 20th, 2011 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by renzo_d10

Yup. Those Kia Prides, Corollas, Myamy buses to name a few.

I cannot distinguish though whether a certain PUJ is old or not since pipinturahan lang naman yun and it would look new again.

Barumbado pa mostly ang old buses, especially yung hindi airconditioned ...

hahaha...

**uls** · January 20th, 2011 02:34 PM

the root of the traffic problem is govt did not plan for the increase in number of motor vehicles decades ago

the road network of metro manila wasnt designed to handle the present number of motor vehicles

**A121** · January 20th, 2011 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by uls

the root of the traffic problem is govt did not plan for the increase in number of motor vehicles decades ago

the road network of metro manila wasnt designed to handle the present number of motor vehicles

Even the city is poorly planned. haha. It's hopeless!

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