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    #101
    When the lease on the GM EV1 was over, GM took them to the desert and crushed the post-lease EV1's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    When the lease on the GM EV1 was over, GM took them to the desert and crushed the post-lease EV1's.


    The used cabs was to be brought back to japan to be taken apart and studied.





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    #104
    the prius is still under consideration according to a toyota official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GasJunkie View Post
    The used cabs was to be brought back to japan to be taken apart and studied.





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    Hindi ba palusot na lang yung 'study' part dun to have a reason to tear apart the vehicles (like GM did)? hehehe.
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    #106
    Doubt that toyota willing to lose that much money on such a one sided lease agreement.



    toyota also demanded that the car be almost run to the ground as in minimal maintenance and 24/7 operation.



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    #107
    here are the price comparisons based from the stealerships errr dealerships in my neck of the woods. and to be fair, both cars have the same options and same transmissions (automatic)

    brand new civic hybrid: $27,000+ tax licenses, and fees
    brand new civic ex: $24,000+ tax, licenses, and fees
    price difference: $3,000

    based from an average annual mileage of 12,000 miles,

    civic hybrid: 51 mpg (city and highway)--->12,000 x $2.70 (regular unleaded gas) = $635.28 is the estimated annual fuel cost

    civic ex: 37 mpg (combined city and highway)---->12,000 x $2.70 = $875.66

    the annual fuel savings is:
    875.66 - 635.28 = $240.38

    lenght of time to break even: $3,000/$240.38 = 12.48 or almost 12 and one half years.

    the tax credit given by the federal government when you file your income tax return is not factored in the equation since the credit applies to US income taxes only.

    12 1/2 years. :lol:

    imho, the extra money you pay for buying a hybrid is not justified since the chances of you keeping your car for the next 12 1/2 years are slim. people change cars every three or five years. some change cars every two years (and im not talking about people who lease their cars). unless you are a hippie who still drives a rugged out vw station wagon from the 70's......
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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    here are the price comparisons based from the stealerships errr dealerships in my neck of the woods. and to be fair, both cars have the same options and same transmissions (automatic)

    brand new civic hybrid: $27,000+ tax licenses, and fees
    brand new civic ex: $24,000+ tax, licenses, and fees
    price difference: $3,000

    based from an average annual mileage of 12,000 miles,

    civic hybrid: 51 mpg (city and highway)--->12,000 x $2.70 (regular unleaded gas) = $635.28 is the estimated annual fuel cost

    civic ex: 37 mpg (combined city and highway)---->12,000 x $2.70 = $875.66

    the annual fuel savings is:
    875.66 - 635.28 = $240.38

    lenght of time to break even: $3,000/$240.38 = 12.48 or almost 12 and one half years.

    the tax credit given by the federal government when you file your income tax return is not factored in the equation since the credit applies to US income taxes only.

    12 1/2 years. :lol:

    imho, the extra money you pay for buying a hybrid is not justified since the chances of you keeping your car for the next 12 1/2 years are slim. people change cars every three or five years. some change cars every two years (and im not talking about people who lease their cars). unless you are a hippie who still drives a rugged out vw station wagon from the 70's......
    You could not have explained it better!!! and add to that, battery will probably drain in about 6 to 8 years, thus will cost you how much to replace? and in some states here, it will also cost you just to dispose your old battery.

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    people change cars every three or five years. some change cars every two years (and im not talking about people who lease their cars). unless you are a hippie who still drives a rugged out vw station wagon from the 70's......
    Probably those not paying for a house. I have yet to see the same trend for people in our neighborhood or with co-workers. Our 95 Contour has been paid off since 1999 and the money saved over new car payments are money in the bank. I'd say more people hang on to their cars after paying them off.

    Most people here have cars 5 years old or more. There are new cars. But, they're mostly additions rather than trade-ins. So far, I've seen only one neighbor trade in his car. He traded in his 1999 Cougar for a nice black 2006 V8 Charger. Same for my cousins in Reno which is as glitzy as anywhere. Two of their households clear at least $100k/year. Yet, they still stick to their 2000 Maxima SE's (the 3 sisters are avid Maxima fans) and SUV's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    here are the price comparisons based from the stealerships errr dealerships in my neck of the woods. and to be fair, both cars have the same options and same transmissions (automatic)

    brand new civic hybrid: $27,000+ tax licenses, and fees
    brand new civic ex: $24,000+ tax, licenses, and fees
    price difference: $3,000

    based from an average annual mileage of 12,000 miles,

    civic hybrid: 51 mpg (city and highway)--->12,000 x $2.70 (regular unleaded gas) = $635.28 is the estimated annual fuel cost

    civic ex: 37 mpg (combined city and highway)---->12,000 x $2.70 = $875.66

    the annual fuel savings is:
    875.66 - 635.28 = $240.38

    lenght of time to break even: $3,000/$240.38 = 12.48 or almost 12 and one half years.

    the tax credit given by the federal government when you file your income tax return is not factored in the equation since the credit applies to US income taxes only.

    12 1/2 years. :lol:

    imho, the extra money you pay for buying a hybrid is not justified since the chances of you keeping your car for the next 12 1/2 years are slim. people change cars every three or five years. some change cars every two years (and im not talking about people who lease their cars). unless you are a hippie who still drives a rugged out vw station wagon from the 70's......






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    People who care more in trying to save the environment could care less about the extra 3 grand.





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