Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[dr. d]

Fellow Innova owners, ask ko lang how long ba talaga before pinapalitan ang FUEL FILTER ng Innova diesel?

Sabi kasi ng casa on a per need basis lang nila pinapalitan ang fuel filter. No fixed number of kilometers.

So I'm running 30,000++ kms now, and if the fuel filter is still "clean", then Toyota casa won't change it. Tama ba ito?

Sabi naman sa Isuzu, the diesel experts, Isuzu vehicles need to change fuel filters every 10,000 kms. Yan ang Preventive maintenance schedule nila.

Sabi naman ng mekaniko, every 10,000 kms. dapat magpalit na sa dumi ng diesel sa Pilipinas.

So bakit sa Toyota ganun ang PMS on fuel filter? Maganda ba talaga quality ng fuel filter nila?

it's not really the quality of the filter, as it is the quality of the fuel.
i'm at over 110k km now. i haven't changed my fuel filter since i got mad at it and replaced it, lock, stock and barrel, 10 or 20K km ago. i'm still waiting for the warning light to warn. my previous (non-toyota) diesel, warned me about it, by dying. i was doing 39K km, and i forgot to replace it at 30K km, as per owner's manual. perhaps today's fuel is much cleaner than 15 years ago...
but i confess, i haven't perused the owner's manual for the answer on when to replace my filter.
i'm not a good example.

[garfield_08]

Fellow Innova owners, ask ko lang how long ba talaga before pinapalitan ang FUEL FILTER ng Innova diesel?

Sabi kasi ng casa on a per need basis lang nila pinapalitan ang fuel filter. No fixed number of kilometers.

So I'm running 30,000++ kms now, and if the fuel filter is still "clean", then Toyota casa won't change it. Tama ba ito?

Sabi naman sa Isuzu, the diesel experts, Isuzu vehicles need to change fuel filters every 10,000 kms. Yan ang Preventive maintenance schedule nila.

Sabi naman ng mekaniko, every 10,000 kms. dapat magpalit na sa dumi ng diesel sa Pilipinas.

So bakit sa Toyota ganun ang PMS on fuel filter? Maganda ba talaga quality ng fuel filter nila?

IIRC, every 40k kms ang palit ng fuel filter for diesel units as per owner's manual. But I change my fuel filter every 5k kms, sabay sa change oil. I use Petron's Diesel Max, filing up on the same gas station. I noticed medyo brownish na yun filter element at 5k kms, so I had the adopted the habit of changing the filter earlier. Mura lang naman yung filter, saka madali lang i-DIY yung procedure.

HTH.

[oj88]

IIRC, every 40k kms ang palit ng fuel filter for diesel units as per owner's manual. But I change my fuel filter every 5k kms, sabay sa change oil. I use Petron's Diesel Max, filing up on the same gas station. I noticed medyo brownish na yun filter element at 5k kms, so I had the adopted the habit of changing the filter earlier. Mura lang naman yung filter, saka madali lang i-DIY yung procedure.

HTH.

The brownish hue might just be discoloration from being soaked in Diesel all its life. It is after all, a porous material. Inspection and assessment every other oil change is probably more than enough of a preventive maintenance and just replace them as recommended by the manual or only when it's actually necessary.

[ParticleX]

You are wasting a still-good fuel filter changing it every 5000KM unless purely sa softdrinks litro ka lang sa kanto nagpapakarga

[miked]

Fellow Innova owners, ask ko lang how long ba talaga before pinapalitan ang FUEL FILTER ng Innova diesel?

Sabi kasi ng casa on a per need basis lang nila pinapalitan ang fuel filter. No fixed number of kilometers.

So I'm running 30,000++ kms now, and if the fuel filter is still "clean", by say, 35,000 kms., then Toyota casa won't change it. Tama ba ito?

Sabi naman sa Isuzu, the diesel experts, Isuzu vehicles need to change fuel filters every 10,000 kms. Yan ang Preventive maintenance schedule nila.

Sabi naman ng mekaniko, every 10,000 kms. dapat magpalit na sa dumi ng diesel sa Pilipinas.

So bakit sa Toyota ganun ang PMS on fuel filter? Maganda ba talaga quality ng fuel filter nila?

nuong pinalitan ko fuel filter ng innova ng ate ko at 25k kms e mukhang kaya pa hanggang 35-40k kms assuming the same fuel quality.

tsaka mas malaki din kasi filter ng innova kesa dun sa isuzu pickup ko.

ang ginagawa ko naman sa pickup ko dahil sa mas maliit ang filter e i change it at 15k or 20k kms. dito na rin kasi nagsisimula umusok.

yung 5k km interval sa fuel filter replacement is simply a waste of energy and money

[zoomzoom]

IIRC, every 40k kms ang palit ng fuel filter for diesel units as per owner's manual.

HTH.

Checked the owners manual again, but really can't find the recommended interval for fuel filter change.

FWIW, called up another toyota casa and they said that for innova diesel, recommended fuel filter change is every 40,000 kms or when fuel filter warning light comes up, whichever comes first.

[zoomzoom]

The brownish hue might just be discoloration from being soaked in Diesel all its life. It is after all, a porous material. Inspection and assessment every other oil change is probably more than enough of a preventive maintenance and just replace them as recommended by the manual or only when it's actually necessary.

I guess iba-iba nga. Like sa Isuzu every 10k. Sa mitsu, every 20k. Sa toyota naman, looks like every 40k is the reco. But yes, these are just guidelines, not written in stone. Nakakalito lang minsan dahil iba-iba sial. And like for the case of toyota, wala talaga ako makita sa owners manual, very strange.

[zoomzoom]

i'm at over 110k km now. i haven't changed my fuel filter since i got mad at it and replaced it, lock, stock and barrel, 10 or 20K km ago. i'm still waiting for the warning light to warn.

Wow, you're running 90,000++ kms already and you have not changed your fuel filter? Where do you gas up? Very clean diesel.

my previous (non-toyota) diesel, warned me about it, by dying. i was doing 39K km, and i forgot to replace it at 30K km, as per owner's manual. perhaps today's fuel is much cleaner than 15 years ago...

Eto ang takot ko. Itirik ako ng sasakyan dahil sa maruning fuel filter.

[zoomzoom]

nuong pinalitan ko fuel filter ng innova ng ate ko at 25k kms e mukhang kaya pa hanggang 35-40k kms assuming the same fuel quality.

tsaka mas malaki din kasi filter ng innova kesa dun sa isuzu pickup ko.

ang ginagawa ko naman sa pickup ko dahil sa mas maliit ang filter e i change it at 15k or 20k kms. dito na rin kasi nagsisimula umusok.

yung 5k km interval sa fuel filter replacement is simply a waste of energy and money

Never heard any cass recomment fuel filter change at 5,000 kms. 10,000 marami. 40,000, toyota pa lang. There really must be something good about their filters for them to be confident it can last up to 40,000 kms. on our kind of diesel in the Phils. Oh well, lets see how long my fuel filter can still last, eh casa na mismo nagsabi pwede pa. Kaya nga tayo nag-pa-pa-PMS sa kanila kasi they're supposed to be the experts at preventing engine malfunctions.

[mokong22]

I have an innova diesel. Napansin ko kasi sa fuel filter ng d4d diesel is mas maganda design nya compare sa iba car manufacturer. Sa d4d filter kasi yung filter acts like a sponge dadaan sa maraming filter yung diesel. while sa iba like mitsu and nissan parang tina trap lang yung impurities ng diesel. I change fuel filter on my d4d every 20k vic lang gamit ko. Lapit nako mag 80k wala pa ako na encounter na problem naman.

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[oj88]

Let me just add that the Innova Diesel will also trigger the fuel system warning light long before filter clogging can affect engine performance. This is sort of a fail-safe device to remind those who neglect to replace the fuel filter within the prescribed duration.

[homhomnova]

ask mo sir kung plug and play yung piggyback (unichip). kung plug and play, mas maganda kasi madali baklasin kung nagpapa Casa ka pa. mas safe din kasi hindi na kailangang mag splice ng wires.

yung 10 to 15 WHP increase, malaking difference na yun sa current power ng engine mo pero mas maganda kung malaki din ang improvement sa torque, mas hindi hirap mag overtake.

weigh mo na lang yung price sir, worth it ba yung P2000/HP na price niya? (assuming na P30K yung unichip tapos 15HP ang increase).

Maraming Salamat sa reply mo sir.. pero yung 10-15 increase ba ng torque ay ramdam rin ba sa hatak sa low rpm?

[oj88]

after 3 years of suspicion, i have finally decided to find out if my diesel innova's thermostat is stuck, or if it is installed at all! napaka-bagal kasi umakyat ang temp needle, unlike my other innova.
problem is... saan po nakalagay ito sa engine block? i tried google, to no avail.
a little help, po?

Did you went through with this experiment?

[innova2013]

Maraming Salamat sa reply mo sir.. pero yung 10-15 increase ba ng torque ay ramdam rin ba sa hatak sa low rpm?

tinignan ko sir dyno graph sa speedlab website for Innova VVTi.

doon sa graph (left side), hindi nga lang pinaka yung 2500rpm below reading, pero malaki na yung increase. ramdam na ramdam na yun, lalo na above 2500rpm (overtaking rev range).

sabi mo sir, naka K&N filter ka na tska throttle controller, doon sa speedlab, palit headers/exhaust manifold (Brand: Hotpipes) na . possible na less yung gain na ma-achieve mo. 2to3 hp/tq less.

pero kung magpapa full exhaust ka bago magpa unichip, possible na same o mas malaki pa yung gain doon sa results ni speedlab.

kapag nagsawa ka na, turbo mo na sir. naka unichip ka na eh. mga 6 to 7psi boost, ok na ok na yun for daily. hahaha

[dr. d]

Did you went through with this experiment?

hindi pa po!
na-tamaan ako ng katam!

[homhomnova]

tinignan ko sir dyno graph sa speedlab website for Innova VVTi.

doon sa graph (left side), hindi nga lang pinaka yung 2500rpm below reading, pero malaki na yung increase. ramdam na ramdam na yun, lalo na above 2500rpm (overtaking rev range).

sabi mo sir, naka K&N filter ka na tska throttle controller, doon sa speedlab, palit headers/exhaust manifold (Brand: Hotpipes) na . possible na less yung gain na ma-achieve mo. 2to3 hp/tq less.

pero kung magpapa full exhaust ka bago magpa unichip, possible na same o mas malaki pa yung gain doon sa results ni speedlab.

kapag nagsawa ka na, turbo mo na sir. naka unichip ka na eh. mga 6 to 7psi boost, ok na ok na yun for daily. hahaha

ok na ako sir sa unichip. Gusto ko plug n play lang para madaling ibalik sa stock.

Kung mag magpapa modify ako, plano ko ipakabit ay yung paddle shifter kaso d ko sure kung possible sa innova. Pero unahin ko muna unichip. 1 at a time lang.

Salamat sir.

[evincar]

Question: ano kaya problema ng brakelight ko, lagi napupundi ung sa left side. parang every year nagpapalit ako ng bulb eh
mura lang bulb pero hassle bilis mapundi. yung Left side lang lagi pundido, yung right brake light ko hindi pa napapalitan simula Brand new

[dr. d]

Question: ano kaya problema ng brakelight ko, lagi napupundi ung sa left side. parang every year nagpapalit ako ng bulb eh
mura lang bulb pero hassle bilis mapundi. yung Left side lang lagi pundido, yung right brake light ko hindi pa napapalitan simula Brand new

inspect very well the housing.
look for loose connection or poor contact (can generate excessive heat).
look for loose mounts. vibrations can pundir bulbs faster.

[homhomnova]

Question: ano kaya problema ng brakelight ko, lagi napupundi ung sa left side. parang every year nagpapalit ako ng bulb eh
mura lang bulb pero hassle bilis mapundi. yung Left side lang lagi pundido, yung right brake light ko hindi pa napapalitan simula Brand new

Ganyan din Innova ko. After 3 years and 8 months napundi left brakelight. Then pinalitan ko ng bulb na tig 60 pesos then after 1 month pundi ulit.

Kaya ginawa ko pinalitan ko na ng LED bulb na tig 1200 isa. Mas maganda at mas maliwanag at hindi pa umiinit yung housing. So far mag 4 months na ok pa naman.

Hassle talaga kung mayat maya palit ng bulb.

[kisbai]

helo po sa lahat. newbie question from a newbie innova owner. :-) . I am using Shell V Power Nitro Diesel for our new Innova E A/T. Pwede rn po ba yung Fuel Save Diesel ang gamitin ko kasi Power Nitro Diesel is more expensive. Thanks for the answers.