Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[RomeoAlpha]

^^^ normally recommended gn oil manufacturers ang mineral for a very new engine.

imho, i have read na dapat ang FS papasok lang around about above 5k to 15kms, depende sa manufacturer.

pero on a cost perspective and maintenance, mas maiging sa 5k (2nd) PMS ka nag FS>

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^^^ normally recommended gn oil manufacturers ang mineral for a very new engine.

imho, i have read na dapat ang FS papasok lang around about above 5k to 15kms, depende sa manufacturer.

pero on a cost perspective and maintenance, mas maiging sa 5k (2nd) PMS ka nag FS>

[vvti2.0]

Use synthetic until you have the 10k mileage, the reason behind is para mas maganda yung lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder mo.

Yung metallic parts during break-in, wala ng katotohanan yun. Mas maikli lang intervals mo kapag bago pa engine kasi mas mabilis uminit ang oil mo therefore degrading its lubricating and cleaning chemicals.

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Use synthetic until you have the 10k mileage, the reason behind is para mas maganda yung lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder mo.

Yung metallic parts during break-in, wala ng katotohanan yun. Mas maikli lang intervals mo kapag bago pa engine kasi mas mabilis uminit ang oil mo therefore degrading its lubricating and cleaning chemicals.

[CVT]

Kung bihira mo gamitin, get the vvti, you can advantage of the lower price. Para yung sa amin, nakuha namin for 270k + 30k, model 2008 E manual vvti. Plan ko na sana ibenta at same price then dagdag ako around 150k to get a d4d, pero ang fuel consumption ko every month is around PhP 2.5k lang nung PhP 55 per liter ang unleaded. So di practical to spend the 150k difference para sa matitipid ko sa fuel consumption. Baka obsolete na innova di ko pa nabawi 150k.

Bro.,- not really rebutting you, but here is the ROI computation for the P55K difference in the price (brand new) of the VVTi vs. the D4D.....(I am really impressed by the pricing of the Innova, gasoline vs. diesel as the difference in SRP is only that much; Hyundai for example,- difference in SRP from Diesel TCi to Diesel VGT is already at P350K- WTF! Technology my A55....)

Assuming VVTi - 8Km/L (average) and price of gasoline is P40/L

And D4D - 10Km/L(average) and price of diesel fuel is P30/L

At 27,500Km, the VVTi owner would have spent P137,500 in gasoline expenses. While the D4D owner would have spent P82,500 in diesel fuel expenses... Difference is already P55,000 in fuel expenses.

Now, hold that thought for a while.....

So assuming the same level of expenses for maintenance, and no issue with the owner, whether he drives the gasoline or the diesel variant,- then it would be to the advantage of the D4D owner, in terms of expenses, starting at 27,500Km.....

BTW,- PROUD owner of the VVTi AT variant here....



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

26.0K:poop:

[vvti2.0]

I am not talking about brand new difference here paps, I am talking about 2nd hand difference.

SA 2nd hand market, ang price difference ng D4D and VVTi same year and model is 150k at least.

And namention ko rin paps yung fuel expenses ko in a month which is only 2.5k nung PhP 55.00 pa unleaded, and di ko namention na di aabot sa 400 km ang tinatakbo ng innova lang namin in a month. So di ko naiisip kung paano ko babawiin yung 150k sa klase ng mileage namin hehehe...

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I am not talking about brand new difference here paps, I am talking about 2nd hand difference.

SA 2nd hand market, ang price difference ng D4D and VVTi same year and model is 150k at least.

And namention ko rin paps yung fuel expenses ko in a month which is only 2.5k nung PhP 55.00 pa unleaded, and di ko namention na di aabot sa 400 km ang tinatakbo ng innova lang namin in a month. So di ko naiisip kung paano ko babawiin yung 150k sa klase ng mileage namin hehehe...

[dr. d]

Di naman nililinis yung, baka maputol pa yung tip.

linilinis po yang spark plug tip, kung gustong linisin ng mekaniko. nguni at ang ibang mekaniko ay ayaw nang linisin at pinaplitan na lang.. pareho lang naman ang binabayad sa kanila, e.

[dr. d]

Use synthetic until you have the 10k mileage, the reason behind is para mas maganda yung lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder mo.

Yung metallic parts during break-in, wala ng katotohanan yun. Mas maikli lang intervals mo kapag bago pa engine kasi mas mabilis uminit ang oil mo therefore degrading its lubricating and cleaning chemicals.

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Use synthetic until you have the 10k mileage, the reason behind is para mas maganda yung lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder mo.

Yung metallic parts during break-in, wala ng katotohanan yun. Mas maikli lang intervals mo kapag bago pa engine kasi mas mabilis uminit ang oil mo therefore degrading its lubricating and cleaning chemicals.

bakit naman daw mas maganda ang lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder, kapag synthetic oil ang ginamit?
mas mabilis uminit ang oil during break-in? how come?

[CVT]

I am not talking about brand new difference here paps, I am talking about 2nd hand difference.

SA 2nd hand market, ang price difference ng D4D and VVTi same year and model is 150k at least.

And namention ko rin paps yung fuel expenses ko in a month which is only 2.5k nung PhP 55.00 pa unleaded, and di ko namention na di aabot sa 400 km ang tinatakbo ng innova lang namin in a month. So di ko naiisip kung paano ko babawiin yung 150k sa klase ng mileage namin hehehe...

Precisely the reason for my preamble bro, and my qualification for "brand new vehicle".... I should not have quoted your entry.....

I am surprised for the P150K difference in prices, if the price difference for brand new is only P55K.... Medyo taga talaga... Hawa ang pre-owned market....

Tama ka riyan bro.,- Precisely the reason why I am not keen on purchasing the higher variants,- because the same with you, payback would be a lifetime....


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

26.0K:poop:

[1natzt]

Fuel gauge dun sa dashboard paps?

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Fuel gauge dun sa dashboard paps?

yung submerged sa fuel tank po.

[1natzt]

How about yung fuel filter sa engine bay paps?

napalitan ko na din po yan at 80tkms.

[vvti2.0]

linilinis po yang spark plug tip, kung gustong linisin ng mekaniko. nguni at ang ibang mekaniko ay ayaw nang linisin at pinaplitan na lang.. pareho lang naman ang binabayad sa kanila, e.

Yung tip ng iridium sparkplug yun paps, hindi yung regular na plugs, baka buga ng contact cleaner pwede na. Pero kung yung susundutin, baka maputol.

[vvti2.0]

bakit naman daw mas maganda ang lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder, kapag synthetic oil ang ginamit?
mas mabilis uminit ang oil during break-in? how come?

Mas maganda daw paps lapat and wear kapab regular oil. Yunh sa temperature as they say dahil masyado pa maliit yung gaps so mas mataas ang pressure.

[vvti2.0]

napalitan ko na din po yan at 80tkms.

May epekto na paps sa performance, mahal pa naman ang fuel filter.

[vix]

Use synthetic until you have the 10k mileage, the reason behind is para mas maganda yung lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder mo.

Yung metallic parts during break-in, wala ng katotohanan yun. Mas maikli lang intervals mo kapag bago pa engine kasi mas mabilis uminit ang oil mo therefore degrading its lubricating and cleaning chemicals.

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Use synthetic until you have the 10k mileage, the reason behind is para mas maganda yung lapat and wear ng piston and cylinder mo.

Yung metallic parts during break-in, wala ng katotohanan yun. Mas maikli lang intervals mo kapag bago pa engine kasi mas mabilis uminit ang oil mo therefore degrading its lubricating and cleaning chemicals.

walang metallic particles sa oil during break-in?

ang alam ko lang nabago yung style ng pag break-in, or kahit hindi na sundin yung recommended driving style during that break-in, kasi na break -in din naman na sa planta, pero metallic particles meron pa din ma-trace sa oil analysis. kahit nga tapos na sa break-in period meron pa din tracks of metal particles, even upto 20k although minimal quantity ppm.

[1natzt]

May epekto na paps sa performance, mahal pa naman ang fuel filter.

Effect lang po sa fuel consumption, bumalik sa 11km/l average, dati nasa 8. and sa idle, mga 700rpm na, dati mababa, more less 500. Medyo mahal yung fuel pump, 16k sa casa.

tia

[shibby75]

Hindi nililinis ang iridium,nababali yan. Hindi din nag re-GAP ng iridium.

[NarsMlvn]

naguguluhan ako. hehehe

kinabahan tuloy ako sa move ko na nag pasynthetic ako kagad sa first pms.

hmm bakit kaya di ako pinigilan ng service crew agent na kausap.ko sa first pms ko.na di pa advisable ang synthetic sa brandnew? and alam ko nakasynthetic na yung car ko kahit nung bagong labas pa lang. (di ko talaga sure kung synthetic na kasi parang may nagbanggit sakin na nakasynthetic na yun nung nag introduce ng ng mga crew nila bago ko ilabas)

sabi naman ng crew ko sa 5km pms ko papalit din daw naman let ng oil filter at dagdag 1liter synthetic oil.

kung pangit pa talaga ipa synthetic sa ngayon.. ipa change oil ko na kaya ulit sa 5km using mineral? hmm

totally lost..

#firsttimeowningavehicle
#noobowner

hehe thanks sa mga advise.

[b_9904]

naguguluhan ako. hehehe

kinabahan tuloy ako sa move ko na nag pasynthetic ako kagad sa first pms.

hmm bakit kaya di ako pinigilan ng service crew agent na kausap.ko sa first pms ko.na di pa advisable ang synthetic sa brandnew? and alam ko nakasynthetic na yung car ko kahit nung bagong labas pa lang. (di ko talaga sure kung synthetic na kasi parang may nagbanggit sakin na nakasynthetic na yun nung nag introduce ng ng mga crew nila bago ko ilabas)

sabi naman ng crew ko sa 5km pms ko papalit din daw naman let ng oil filter at dagdag 1liter synthetic oil.

kung pangit pa talaga ipa synthetic sa ngayon.. ipa change oil ko na kaya ulit sa 5km using mineral? hmm

totally lost..

#firsttimeowningavehicle
#noobowner

hehe thanks sa mga advise.

Boss, lubes are lubes. Wag ka mag alala.

Unless may DEFINITE PROOF sila na mas mabilis ka mag init using synth eh wag ka maniwala ng basta basta.

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naguguluhan ako. hehehe

kinabahan tuloy ako sa move ko na nag pasynthetic ako kagad sa first pms.

hmm bakit kaya di ako pinigilan ng service crew agent na kausap.ko sa first pms ko.na di pa advisable ang synthetic sa brandnew? and alam ko nakasynthetic na yung car ko kahit nung bagong labas pa lang. (di ko talaga sure kung synthetic na kasi parang may nagbanggit sakin na nakasynthetic na yun nung nag introduce ng ng mga crew nila bago ko ilabas)

sabi naman ng crew ko sa 5km pms ko papalit din daw naman let ng oil filter at dagdag 1liter synthetic oil.

kung pangit pa talaga ipa synthetic sa ngayon.. ipa change oil ko na kaya ulit sa 5km using mineral? hmm

totally lost..

#firsttimeowningavehicle
#noobowner

hehe thanks sa mga advise.

Boss, lubes are lubes. Wag ka mag alala.

Unless may DEFINITE PROOF sila na mas mabilis ka mag init using synth eh wag ka maniwala ng basta basta.

[vix]

naguguluhan ako. hehehe

kinabahan tuloy ako sa move ko na nag pasynthetic ako kagad sa first pms.

hmm bakit kaya di ako pinigilan ng service crew agent na kausap.ko sa first pms ko.na di pa advisable ang synthetic sa brandnew? and alam ko nakasynthetic na yung car ko kahit nung bagong labas pa lang. (di ko talaga sure kung synthetic na kasi parang may nagbanggit sakin na nakasynthetic na yun nung nag introduce ng ng mga crew nila bago ko ilabas)

sabi naman ng crew ko sa 5km pms ko papalit din daw naman let ng oil filter at dagdag 1liter synthetic oil.

kung pangit pa talaga ipa synthetic sa ngayon.. ipa change oil ko na kaya ulit sa 5km using mineral? hmm

totally lost..

#firsttimeowningavehicle
#noobowner

hehe thanks sa mga advise.

my opinion sir mas ok ang synthetic kesa sa mineral oil, kaya lang practically mas economical ang mineral, kasi costwise palitan din yung oil agad dahil break-in period pa at para ma-flush yung metallic particles na present sa oil, unless kayang i-filter ng ng maliit na oem oil filter yan.

andyan na sir yan, just enjoy your new ride... mas tahimik din yung engine noise sa synthetic oil compare sa mineral.

[NarsMlvn]

hmm sana mafilter ng oil.filter yung metal particles. hayst.

mga boss any idea sa car foil? advisable b mag pa car foil? and magkano aabutin sa toyota innova? thanks.

[stedwet]

Sir, anong pagkakaiba sa synthetic at fully synthetic oil?

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Sir, anong pagkakaiba sa synthetic at fully synthetic oil?