Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[Andrez B]

Im planning to purchase an innova but looking at the thread, i see innova has more problems encountered by the buyers...even brand new ones, 1 year old units ay may mga problema agad. d4d engines medyo alanganin pa sa history etc...etc... fc majority 7-8km/liter (medyo may kasibaan ito). head room mababa lalo sa likod, space masikip daw, etc...etc..

The only advantage i see is the speed and power compared sa other AUVs or SUVs. My aunt owns an new innova before but they sold it and replaced it with adventure, masiba daw kasi lalo sa city driving.

Can somebody help me decide on this one? I hope you can posts some key advantages where it can help me decide to go for this car. Thanks mga ka-tsikot...

[ericson21]

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ung engine lang ata gawin VNT as posted earlier in this thread.

imposible sa innova yan, kase uniqueness ng fort at hilux yun. kung VNT ang innova, sira ang market ng fort nun. mag innova G/V na lang mga buyer, same interior naman eh diba, nakatipid pa sila. kaya di magaganun ang innova. hiace/grandia ang dapat i VNT din nila, iniiwan lang ng starex gold eh haha. )

Im planning to purchase an innova but looking at the thread, i see innova has more problems encountered by the buyers...even brand new ones, 1 year old units ay may mga problema agad. d4d engines medyo alanganin pa sa history etc...etc... fc majority 7-8km/liter (medyo may kasibaan ito). head room mababa lalo sa likod, space masikip daw, etc...etc..

The only advantage i see is the speed and power compared sa other AUVs or SUVs. My aunt owns an new innova before but they sold it and replaced it with adventure, masiba daw kasi lalo sa city driving.

Can somebody help me decide on this one? I hope you can posts some key advantages where it can help me decide to go for this car. Thanks mga ka-tsikot...

yung 2005-2008 models ng D-4D yun, pero ngayon wala na. ang diesel 7-8km/L lang? hindi ah. 10km/L ang diesel pataas. 8km/L ng diesel innova ang sama na eh hehe. ganyan madalas ang adventure namen 8-9km/L.

speed, power, comfortability, interior, ang advantage ng innova compared sa ibang AUV. hindi malakas sa krudo ang innova, yung gas oo pero krudo matipid. di hamak na mas malakas sa krudo ang adventure kesa innova. we have both innova and adventure kaya i can tell you that.

[dr. d]

Im planning to purchase an innova but looking at the thread, i see innova has more problems encountered by the buyers...even brand new ones, 1 year old units ay may mga problema agad. d4d engines medyo alanganin pa sa history etc...etc... fc majority 7-8km/liter (medyo may kasibaan ito). head room mababa lalo sa likod, space masikip daw, etc...etc..

The only advantage i see is the speed and power compared sa other AUVs or SUVs. My aunt owns an new innova before but they sold it and replaced it with adventure, masiba daw kasi lalo sa city driving.

Can somebody help me decide on this one? I hope you can posts some key advantages where it can help me decide to go for this car. Thanks mga ka-tsikot...

i was so happy with my 2005, i bought another one this year. the diesel does at least 10 km/li in the city.
more problems..? dunno..headroom mababa.. masikip.. what are they, basketball players or sumo wrestlers?

[terio2028]

Not Needed ang engine flush unless medyo lumampas ka ng malayo sa Scheduled Preventive maintenance mo. try to canvass sa ibang toyota na malapit sa iyo. Dasma ang dealer ko pero on my 1st 1,000km checkup 3K din ang quote sakin. even with 10% discount mataas parin sila compared sa pinag dalhan ko for may 1K PMS. Toyota pasig's bill was only 1,840.

Ah o sige,mag canvass din ako sa iba. Thank you sir.

[jrn29]

Im planning to purchase an innova but looking at the thread, i see innova has more problems encountered by the buyers...even brand new ones, 1 year old units ay may mga problema agad. d4d engines medyo alanganin pa sa history etc...etc... fc majority 7-8km/liter (medyo may kasibaan ito). head room mababa lalo sa likod, space masikip daw, etc...etc..

The only advantage i see is the speed and power compared sa other AUVs or SUVs. My aunt owns an new innova before but they sold it and replaced it with adventure, masiba daw kasi lalo sa city driving.

Can somebody help me decide on this one? I hope you can posts some key advantages where it can help me decide to go for this car. Thanks mga ka-tsikot...

naka Adventure rin ako ,para sa akin mas malakas sa Diesel ang Advie kumpara sa innova
kumukunsumo ang Advie ko dati ng 7-9km/L , eh ang innova namin 10-13km/L parehas M/T .
average speed ko lang araw araw 60kph , 9km ang tinatakbo araw araw school to House lang .
tsaka di hamak na mas matipid talaga ang innova kasi CRD-I engine na ito kumpara sa Fuel Injection na adventure ;)

[number001]

astig, E variant lang peru parang V .

pag nag change to captain seats, pwede ba trade-in ung bench seat?

There is a shop that does this. I saw it back in 2006 with an Innova G. They also do this for the Grandia (back then Super Grandia was yet to be introduced in 2008).

No trade-ins or exchange involved since the shop will simply convert the existing bench chairs. They do this by stripping the entire thing, chopping off the metal frame, and reupholster using the same materials.

Its unlike in the V variant which is really designed as an individual seat just like the driver and passenger seats in front.

[Retz]

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ah okay. conversion pala I thought they will replaced the whole bench into readily made individual seats.

[kristine123]

anyone here naka try i repair ang idler ( bearing ) and tensioner pulley?

dapat bang palitan whole assembly or pwede lang i repair by changing the bearing? TY

[timo07]

anyone here naka try i repair ang idler ( bearing ) and tensioner pulley?

dapat bang palitan whole assembly or pwede lang i repair by changing the bearing? TY

Mukhang hindi na replaceable ang mga tensioner and idler pulley bearings. Even our old liteace before has disposable tensioner pulley.

[liv]

There is a shop that does this. I saw it back in 2006 with an Innova G. They also do this for the Grandia (back then Super Grandia was yet to be introduced in 2008).

No trade-ins or exchange involved since the shop will simply convert the existing bench chairs. They do this by stripping the entire thing, chopping off the metal frame, and reupholster using the same materials.

Its unlike in the V variant which is really designed as an individual seat just like the driver and passenger seats in front.

Seatmate can convert bench seats to captain seats... the owner, Rommel San Pedro is a family friend... he owns a 2005 Innova G but had it converted to captain seats.

[crazy_boy]

Seatmate can convert bench seats to captain seats... the owner, Rommel San Pedro is a family friend... he owns a 2005 Innova G but had it converted to captain seats.

If I'm not mistaken, seatmate nauna mag convert ng captain seats, then doon na lumabas yung V model.

[Retz]

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nauna pa seatmate compared sa V model? what year ba lumabas ang V model?

[number001]

The idea for the captain chairs in the V did not come from seatmate. Toyota Thailand had a V variant back in 2005-06 before slowly introducing it here early Jan 2007 or very late 2006. Other Asian countries have better options like the captain chairs option can be had without the leather upholstery.

Any conversion (in the shops) is inferior (in terms of appearance and function) to the captains found on the V variant unless the conversion is based on seats like the ones used by the driver and passenger seats in front.

As for the conversion in the shops, since the bench is 60/40 split, they only need to heavily modify (cut up) the right side chair (60). They will just add an adjustable armrest for the left side chair (40).

[frowndog]

Hey guys, I'm new here.

I just wanted to ask the knowledgeable people here about a problem I've been having lately.

I have a 2006 Innova Diesel M/T and a few weeks ago, I observed that the car loses power randomly. I've observed this most frequently when I am decelerating on a 90 degree turn or when I'm stuck in traffic and there is a lot of stop and go. Bigla nalang nawawalan ng hatak ung makina and the only way I can keep the engine going is to push hard on the gas pedal. If I don't, the engine dies and I have to restart it. This is kinda scary to be doing in the middle of traffic.

I can mostly prevent this by going really slow on turns and keeping my foot on the pedal most of the time, but this is obviously not optimal. I took it to Toyota for checkup but they told me that they couldn't find the problem. They did tell me about a problem with Innovas with the gas supply or something and I was wondering if that could solve my problem. It costs 10k+ though so I'd rather not do it if it won't fix my problem.

Thanks in advance!

[terio2028]

Hey guys, I'm new here.

I just wanted to ask the knowledgeable people here about a problem I've been having lately.

I have a 2006 Innova Diesel M/T and a few weeks ago, I observed that the car loses power randomly. I've observed this most frequently when I am decelerating on a 90 degree turn or when I'm stuck in traffic and there is a lot of stop and go. Bigla nalang nawawalan ng hatak ung makina and the only way I can keep the engine going is to push hard on the gas pedal. If I don't, the engine dies and I have to restart it. This is kinda scary to be doing in the middle of traffic.

I can mostly prevent this by going really slow on turns and keeping my foot on the pedal most of the time, but this is obviously not optimal. I took it to Toyota for checkup but they told me that they couldn't find the problem. They did tell me about a problem with Innovas with the gas supply or something and I was wondering if that could solve my problem. It costs 10k+ though so I'd rather not do it if it won't fix my problem.

Thanks in advance!

Sir a friend of mine experienced same problem. 2006 model din yung sa kanya then pinalitan yung injector nung unit nya.

[andycapp]

Hey guys, I'm new here.

I just wanted to ask the knowledgeable people here about a problem I've been having lately.

I have a 2006 Innova Diesel M/T and a few weeks ago, I observed that the car loses power randomly. I've observed this most frequently when I am decelerating on a 90 degree turn or when I'm stuck in traffic and there is a lot of stop and go. Bigla nalang nawawalan ng hatak ung makina and the only way I can keep the engine going is to push hard on the gas pedal. If I don't, the engine dies and I have to restart it. This is kinda scary to be doing in the middle of traffic.

I can mostly prevent this by going really slow on turns and keeping my foot on the pedal most of the time, but this is obviously not optimal. I took it to Toyota for checkup but they told me that they couldn't find the problem. They did tell me about a problem with Innovas with the gas supply or something and I was wondering if that could solve my problem. It costs 10k+ though so I'd rather not do it if it won't fix my problem.

Thanks in advance!

I had the same problem a few years back. The problem was traced to the defective design of the suction control valve of the Innova and Fortuner D4D models 2007 and older.

Toyota replaced it with the newer design which was longer, and this solved the problem. It costs around 4k, but mine was changed for free as my Innova was under warranty then.

Check out this Fortuner thread below for more info on the suction control valve:

http://fortunerclub.net.ph/index.php?topic=4729.0

[markduguran]

naka Adventure rin ako ,para sa akin mas malakas sa Diesel ang Advie kumpara sa innova
kumukunsumo ang Advie ko dati ng 7-9km/L , eh ang innova namin 10-13km/L parehas M/T .
average speed ko lang araw araw 60kph , 9km ang tinatakbo araw araw school to House lang .
tsaka di hamak na mas matipid talaga ang innova kasi CRD-I engine na ito kumpara sa Fuel Injection na adventure ;)

Sir hindi ba conventional distribution type lang ang fuel system ng adventure(diesel:4D56)? ang naka Fuel Injection ay ang gasoline variant (4G63). paki tama nalang po kung mali ang info na binigay ko. Baligtad naman ang experience ko when it comes sa hatak and speed. I've driven My friend's advie and another friend's innova, both in manual tranny. here's my observation:

Innova G D4D: Mas mabilis mag accelerate and mas matipid. average FC is 11km/liter
Adventure GLS sport: Even if you rev it hard, hindi ganun ka bilis mag accerate and it consumes an average of 8km/liter

[millean]

sir one question lang po. we have a innova 2010 G matic diesel. Ang tanong ko lang po mga ilan tantsa nyo ang FC nito? with and without aircon po? salamat

[frowndog]

Sir a friend of mine experienced same problem. 2006 model din yung sa kanya then pinalitan yung injector nung unit nya.

Hi!

Saan pwede magpaayos nun?

I had the same problem a few years back. The problem was traced to the defective design of the suction control valve of the Innova and Fortuner D4D models 2007 and older.

Toyota replaced it with the newer design which was longer, and this solved the problem. It costs around 4k, but mine was changed for free as my Innova was under warranty then.

Check out this Fortuner thread below for more info on the suction control valve:

Suction Control Valve

Hi!

Is this is a different issue from the one with the injectors? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with the inner workings of cars.

Based on reading some threads here, there are a lot of people who talk about the injectors. This issue is about the fuel not getting distributed properly?

[jrn29]

Sir hindi ba conventional distribution type lang ang fuel system ng adventure(diesel:4D56)? ang naka Fuel Injection ay ang gasoline variant (4G63). paki tama nalang po kung mali ang info na binigay ko. Baligtad naman ang experience ko when it comes sa hatak and speed. I've driven My friend's advie and another friend's innova, both in manual tranny. here's my observation:

Innova G D4D: Mas mabilis mag accelerate and mas matipid. average FC is 11km/liter
Adventure GLS sport: Even if you rev it hard, hindi ganun ka bilis mag accerate and it consumes an average of 8km/liter

sorry sir nalito lang , tama pala kayo distributuion type nga pala , kelan lang kasi kami nag ka diesel nasanay ako puro EFI ang tawag hehe :sweat: :sweat: