Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[wakin]

the process that it took to completely fix my problem on fumes entering the cabin is almost a year. its not a one time solution. the blower is located at the rear right side so it has a tendency to suck air at the rear right flapper.
The following are the steps done at a time:
1. seal rear right flapper, seal rear right water drain (just under the flapper). tested for 3 mos. still problem persist.
2. seal rear left flapper, seal rear left water drain (also just under the flapper), tested for another 3 mos. still problem exist.
3. remove the rear bumper. you will see that chasis metal with lots of holes. this is not used for clips. seal every holes that you see. tested for another 3 mos. problem solved

During the different tests, naka set sa high ang blower sa likod na aircon. nag sindi ako ng katol ang placed it near sa flapper and chasis holes to check if the katol smoke would enter the cabin and true enough meron nga. it took me every 3 months before i can have my car brought to tpt dahil tinatamad ako. All of the 3 steps i mentioned nakita ko kung pano ginawa sa tpt thats why i know yung progress. they let me take a look sa loob ng bay area nila. since alam ko na kung pano nila ginawa so ako na lang gumawa nung 2nd innova ko.

hindi naman ganon kahirap isara yung mga doors, may konting effort lang. g variant yung sa ka officemante ko meron ding problem. lahat sila ginaya yung solution. actually hindi solution kundi cover up lang sa palpak na design. na involve na rin dito yung isang VP ng tmp. they are willing to loan me either a revo or an altis during the time na nagiisip sila kung pano maayos yung car ko. but then sabi ko no need for the loaner car gusto ko lang maayos kaagad.

ma swerte yung hindi nakaka encounter ng fumes comming from outside.

[Retz]

the process that it took to completely fix my problem on fumes entering the cabin is almost a year. its not a one time solution. the blower is located at the rear right side so it has a tendency to suck air at the rear right flapper.
The following are the steps done at a time:
1. seal rear right flapper, seal rear right water drain (just under the flapper). tested for 3 mos. still problem persist.
2. seal rear left flapper, seal rear left water drain (also just under the flapper), tested for another 3 mos. still problem exist.
3. remove the rear bumper. you will see that chasis metal with lots of holes. this is not used for clips. seal every holes that you see. tested for another 3 mos. problem solved

During the different tests, naka set sa high ang blower sa likod na aircon. nag sindi ako ng katol ang placed it near sa flapper and chasis holes to check if the katol smoke would enter the cabin and true enough meron nga. it took me every 3 months before i can have my car brought to tpt dahil tinatamad ako. All of the 3 steps i mentioned nakita ko kung pano ginawa sa tpt thats why i know yung progress. they let me take a look sa loob ng bay area nila. since alam ko na kung pano nila ginawa so ako na lang gumawa nung 2nd innova ko.

hindi naman ganon kahirap isara yung mga doors, may konting effort lang. g variant yung sa ka officemante ko meron ding problem. lahat sila ginaya yung solution. actually hindi solution kundi cover up lang sa palpak na design. na involve na rin dito yung isang VP ng tmp. they are willing to loan me either a revo or an altis during the time na nagiisip sila kung pano maayos yung car ko. but then sabi ko no need for the loaner car gusto ko lang maayos kaagad.

ma swerte yung hindi nakaka encounter ng fumes comming from outside.

Interesting. ung mga hindi nakapag encounter ng fumes coming from outside does it mean sealed ung holes nila doon sa metal chassis?

[Ginnova]

na-curious tuloy ako sa holes on the garnish near rear bumper so i checked it. on my unit there are 6 holes but are covered by 6 clips so lahat natatakpan. unless yung holes for the wire clips yung walang takip.

[spat]

Thanks wain

[Mile2]

na-curious tuloy ako sa holes on the garnish near rear bumper so i checked it. on my unit there are 6 holes but are covered by 6 clips so lahat natatakpan. unless yung holes for the wire clips yung walang takip.

Correct, napasilip din ako dito ngayon lang at na curious din, natatakpan yung holes ng plastic clips when you put back the plastic garnish cover.

[tuks]

I had this problem on my 2006 innova j gas. the problem is the aircon design at the back.
Dito pumapasok yung outside fumes:
1. Yung air flapper/side vents (not sure what this is called) located sa side ng rear bumper (left and right)
2. yung bakal sa likod ng bumper. you will see this pag tinangal yung bumper. you will notice puro butas yung area na yon.

Solution from TMP c/o Toyota Pasong tamo:
1. Permanently takpan yung left and right flapper.
2. Permanently takpan lahat ng butas sa bakal.

Effect:
Hinbdi kagad masara yung mga doors dahil hindi kagad makalabas yung excess air.
Yung excess air lalabas sa left and right side ng dash board.

After 5 years I sold my innova. However, I bought another 2011 innova j gas. Surprisingly, ganon parin!
This time ako na lang gumawang solution 1 & 2. I used vulcaseal

Dito sa office namin we have 3 innova j gas and 1 innova g gas. Lahat sila has the same problem on fumes entering the cabin. Im just surprise bakit hindi ito major issue sa tsikot.

Confirm ko rin po sa aking innova j diesel nabili nung November 2011 itong problem na smoke entering thru aircon vent.

Pinatignan ko po sa Toyota Davao last month at sabi nila wala naman daw sila makitang butas na maaring daanan sa harap. Di ko po naisip yung sa back aircon.

Thanks so much for confirming this issue, pa-tsek ko ito sa 5k pms ko.

[ericson21]

medyo OT lang sa pinaguusapan about sa AC natin. may tanong lang ako.

ok po kaya sa D4D ko na mag shift ng diesel? right now i am using caltex's diesel w/ techron. super ok naman sa akin, no problem sa unit ko. pero parang nababasa ko sa montero sport thread na ok na ok sa kanila ang seaoil bioexceed diesel.

ok din kaya ito sa innova natin for D4D?

[wakin]

Interesting. ung mga hindi nakapag encounter ng fumes coming from outside does it mean sealed ung holes nila doon sa metal chassis?

puzzled din po ako. i even went to the extent to remove the sidings ng 3rd row where the blower is located. gabi ko ginawa yon. ang idea is to use a pwerful flash light at ilagay sa near the blower ng aircon. habang naka ON yung flashlight tinignan ko from labas kung may makikitang ilaw. and yes meron akong nakitang ilaw from labas. that means doon pumapasok yung fumes.

[wakin]

na-curious tuloy ako sa holes on the garnish near rear bumper so i checked it. on my unit there are 6 holes but are covered by 6 clips so lahat natatakpan. unless yung holes for the wire clips yung walang takip.

hindi po dyan yung tinutukoy ko. look underneat it. sa level ng spare tire. you will see a metal chasis na may mga holes. this metal chasis is the one which protects our vehicle from collision. i hope you find it. pasensya na walang pics eh. im just rying to help the peeps here.

[wakin]

Originally posted by tuks
Confirm ko rin po sa aking innova j diesel nabili nung November 2011 itong problem na smoke entering thru aircon vent.

Pinatignan ko po sa Toyota Davao last month at sabi nila wala naman daw sila makitang butas na maaring daanan sa harap. Di ko po naisip yung sa back aircon.



ganito rin po narining ko sa dealer ko until i escalated this to tmp.

[wakin]

ganyan din 2008 innova G namin. pag naka-On ang blower sa likod pumapasok amoy galing sa labas. never bothered to complain it sa dealer. pano nyo tinakpan sir? tinanggal nyo pa yung rear bumper? if yes, anong steps pag tanggal ng rear bumper? kung magawa ko kasi tatakpan ko yung iba para maminimize lang ang pagpasok ng amoy
TIA

you have to remove the bumper to see the flapper. medyo tricky yung pagtanggal ng bumper. yung mga bolts madali lang but then yung mga clips underneath the bumper may special tools sila. nakasira ako ng isang clip. humingi na lang ako sa tpt. eventually marunong na akong magtanggal using just 2 small screw driver. pasensya na mahirap iexplain. sa mga latero magaling sila dyan

[Ginnova]

hindi po dyan yung tinutukoy ko. look underneat it. sa level ng spare tire. you will see a metal chasis na may mga holes. this metal chasis is the one which protects our vehicle from collision. i hope you find it. pasensya na walang pics eh. im just rying to help the peeps here.

yes i know those holes. they are basically in -line with the holes above ( the one for the clips.) so if the holes on top are covered by clips then there should be no open holes going to the cabin. i want to help also and would like to understand why on some units , may pumapasok na amoy and some wala. i tried to spay some air-freshener ( Dakota Odor Bomb to be exact ) on those holes below ( near spare tire ) to check and luckily i did not smell anything inside the 3rd row even with rear blower at low/high setting. not sure for lower variants if the wire above is present and no covers for the wire clips. this might be source.

can you check your unit if the holes above are all covered?

[wakin]

yes i know those holes. they are basically in -line with the holes above ( the one for the clips.) so if the holes on top are covered by clips then there should be no open holes going to the cabin. i want to help also and would like to understand why on some units , may pumapasok na amoy and some wala. i tried to spay some air-freshener ( Dakota Odor Bomb to be exact ) on those holes below ( near spare tire ) to check and luckily i did not smell anything inside the 3rd row even with rear blower at low/high setting. not sure for lower variants if the wire above is present and no covers for the wire clips. this might be source.

can you check your unit if the holes above are all covered?

hindi ko po ma check. wla po ako sa pinas right now
i remembered something, when i removed the rear right siding on the 3rd row seats, comming from the blower dinukot ko po kung may connection yung rear chasis sa blower (parang elbow), as far as i remember parang tuloy tuloy. naisip ko ata noon na dapat may nakaharang doon sa may elbow. one thiing to check din is the rear right signal light. pag hindi maganda ang lapat may chance din na pumasok dito.

[spat]

you have to remove the bumper to see the flapper. medyo tricky yung pagtanggal ng bumper. yung mga bolts madali lang but then yung mga clips underneath the bumper may special tools sila. nakasira ako ng isang clip. humingi na lang ako sa tpt. eventually marunong na akong magtanggal using just 2 small screw driver. pasensya na mahirap iexplain. sa mga latero magaling sila dyan

sige sir. dalhin ko nalang sa mga paint shop pag may oras. sa kanila ko nalang papatanggal (baka may masira ako e). hehehe

[CVT]

sige sir. dalhin ko nalang sa mga paint shop pag may oras. sa kanila ko nalang papatanggal (baka may masira ako e). hehehe

^^^ Best thing to do if you do not have the skill...
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[darkmatter269]

hindi ko pa naman na experience yun may pumapasok na amoy galing sa labas yun innova ko..siguro dahil naka wrap ng bodykits sakin..

[CtrlAltDel]

Without removing the rear bumper or peeking underneath the vehicle, this is the only hole I saw at the rear when you open the rear door. Wala naman akong naamoy na galing sa labas through the aircon vents. Innova-G, M/T, gas, January 2012. I don't know what this hole is for. Magkakaiba ba tayo ng design sa part na ito?

[Ginnova]

that's for lowering the spare tire. it seems you do not know how to remove the spare tire. that's the 1st thing i did when i got my unit. save yourself the trouble incase you encounter a flat tire. one of my friend took hours to figure out how to remove his tires.

[OTEP]

If you learn how to lower the spare tire of the Innova, you will have no problem dealing with the Fortuner, Hilux and other Toyota products (e.g. Land Cruiser and Prado) which use a similar arrangement.

The worst possible time to learn it is by the side of the road in the middle of rainstorm.

There is some assembly required to build the hand crank you will need to lower the spare.

And the Innova jacking points are under the car, so you will use the hand crank to position the jack also. Otherwise you will crawl on all fours to reach the jacking point.

The lug wrench is part of the hand crank system.

It won't take more than ten mins to lower the spare and change the flat if you know how. It's kinda fun to do too. hehe.

[OTEP]

If you learn how to lower the spare tire of the Innova, you will have no problem dealing with the Fortuner, Hilux and other Toyota products (e.g. Land Cruiser and Prado) which use a similar arrangement.

The worst possible time to learn it is by the side of the road in the middle of rainstorm.

There is some assembly required to build the hand crank you will need to lower the spare.

And the Innova jacking points are under the car, so you will use the hand crank to position the jack also. Otherwise you will crawl on all fours to reach the jacking point.

The lug wrench is part of the hand crank system.

It won't take more than ten mins to lower the spare and change the flat if you know how. It's kinda fun to do too. hehe.