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    #3201
    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy0408 View Post
    will do sir, nag tatake notes na din po ako ng mga tips dito on how to check 2nd hand cars

    on the side note sir, compared po for a 2014 vios j, which one will give me a less hassle for the next 3-5 years?
    the vios that I was eyeing is 30k more expensive than this altis.

    second owner na daw po si vios.
    you are comparing a 10 year old altis with a 5 year old vios...
    i do not know.
    i am not sure... where to start...
    offhand... the newer vios reasons out as the less-potentially-problematic car.
    i have ridden in both. i prefer the altis. mas masarap.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 21st, 2019 at 12:46 PM.

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    Kung ganyan ka baba mileage, ang worry ko is sinundan ba niya yung oil change just on the mileage? Or kahit papano annual ba pinapagawa. Kahit na sabi niya every year or 6 months papalit siya ng engine oil, I'd personally want to get the records from the owner (since first owned).

    Since 10 years at mababa mileage, not sure pero papalitan na lang din siguro ATF nito for some peace of mind eventhough mababa mileage and normally at 40k kms, hindi pa need palitan ATF but since 10 years and 40k kms, not sure if possible na dumimi yung ATF inside over that long period.

    Vios vs Altis? The J is a 1.3 right? So... don't expect fuel efficiency on highway or spirited driving on the Vios. Kung crawling city traffic, well, mas "matipid" idling consumption mo sa Vios but that's about it.

    Pero the question is what is the purpose of the car I guess. A Point A to B car lang ba? Or starting family use?

    Whether kung anu mas "konti bibigay" or "less hassle sa maintenance", depende talaga sa alaga nung dating mayari.

    You would normally expect the 5 year old car to have less issues (for now) than a 10 year old car pero that might not be the case here.

    Good luck in your purchase.

    Since Gas yung Altis, baka may room naman to haggle yan if talagang napusuan mo yung Altis after mo inspect. =)

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    kung totoong mababa mileage nun altis, panalo pa sa kinis yan. mag alot nalang ng extra 50k sa just in case moments

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    #3204
    Hello,

    I've been looking for a second-hand altis as a daily car and I'm torn between a 2006 altis J with 86k km and a 2002 1.8g altis with 92k km.

    With all the papers complete and both cars in good condition, what should I choose? considering maintenance and repair costs such as transmission problems in the future.

    Plano ko sana gawing primary car ito for a year or two then afterward weekend car na siya

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    #3205
    Quote Originally Posted by mark.609 View Post
    Hello,

    I've been looking for a second-hand altis as a daily car and I'm torn between a 2006 altis J with 86k km and a 2002 1.8g altis with 92k km.

    With all the papers complete and both cars in good condition, what should I choose? considering maintenance and repair costs such as transmission problems in the future.

    Plano ko sana gawing primary car ito for a year or two then afterward weekend car na siya
    Also, malaki ba difference nung manual sa automatic in terms of performance?

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    #3206
    Quote Originally Posted by mark.609 View Post
    Also, malaki ba difference nung manual sa automatic in terms of performance?
    MT versus AT is a personal choice.

    personally, even as AT is argueably more easier to operate in stop and crawl traffic, i find MT offers more fingertip control.
    i have MT innova and AT innova.
    while majority of folks here prefer the AT because of our traffic situation, i prefer to bring out the MT. the AT is my coding car.
    also, my MT gargles less fuel than my AT.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 11th, 2019 at 01:30 AM.

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    #3207
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    MT versus AT is a personal choice.

    personally, even as AT is argueably more easier to operate in stop and crawl traffic, i find MT offers more fingertip control.
    i have MT innova and AT innova.
    while majority of folks here prefer the AT because of our traffic situation, i prefer to bring out the MT. the AT is my coding car.
    also, my MT gargles less fuel than my AT.
    How about for repairs and maintenance costs especially for the transmission? I already did an estimate, the whole clutch assembly for the manual altis would play at around 8500 with labor then 3 years or longer depends sa gamit yung next na palit. Right now, marami kasi akong nakikita na 170-200k na altis puro a/t. kaya nagdadalawang isip ako kumuha ng a/t since baka due for replacement na or repair na yung transmission after a few months of ownership/use.

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    #3208
    Quote Originally Posted by mark.609 View Post
    How about for repairs and maintenance costs especially for the transmission? I already did an estimate, the whole clutch assembly for the manual altis would play at around 8500 with labor then 3 years or longer depends sa gamit yung next na palit. Right now, marami kasi akong nakikita na 170-200k na altis puro a/t. kaya nagdadalawang isip ako kumuha ng a/t since baka due for replacement na or repair na yung transmission after a few months of ownership/use.
    I had the Automatic transmission of my wife's 9th gen 2001 Altis 1.8G (135,000 kms) overhauled by an A/T specialist in Banawe. Replaced all the seals plus the labor, it cost me P23,000.

    As long as the transmission is well maintained, and with good driving habits (not shifting to P or any opposite gear while in motion), the transmission will probably last another 100,000 kms.

    My 10th gen 1.6V naman, according to Toyota, the WS (World Standard) type ATF does not need replacing under normal driving conditions. But I had the ATF replaced by the dealership last year for peace of mind, as my car already reached 100,000 kms

    When buying a pre owned A/T car, try to do a cold start in the morning as much as possible. Shift it to D, the car should move right away. If it doesn't, an overhaul may be necessary (similar to our 1.8G)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chon961 View Post
    I had the Automatic transmission of my wife's 9th gen 2001 Altis 1.8G (135,000 kms) overhauled by an A/T specialist in Banawe. Replaced all the seals plus the labor, it cost me P23,000.

    As long as the transmission is well maintained, and with good driving habits (not shifting to P or any opposite gear while in motion), the transmission will probably last another 100,000 kms.

    My 10th gen 1.6V naman, according to Toyota, the WS (World Standard) type ATF does not need replacing under normal driving conditions. But I had the ATF replaced by the dealership last year for peace of mind, as my car already reached 100,000 kms

    When buying a pre owned A/T car, try to do a cold start in the morning as much as possible. Shift it to D, the car should move right away. If it doesn't, an overhaul may be necessary (similar to our 1.8G)

    Thank you so much sir! :nod

    I had purchased a 1.6 g a/t 2002 altis. I had done this and will just replace all the fluids this week or next week.

    what atf fluid and coolant do you recommend using? unfortunately the owner "lost" the owner's manual so I don't have any idea what type of fluids am I supposed to buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by chon961 View Post
    I had the Automatic transmission of my wife's 9th gen 2001 Altis 1.8G (135,000 kms) overhauled by an A/T specialist in Banawe. Replaced all the seals plus the labor, it cost me P23,000.

    As long as the transmission is well maintained, and with good driving habits (not shifting to P or any opposite gear while in motion), the transmission will probably last another 100,000 kms.

    My 10th gen 1.6V naman, according to Toyota, the WS (World Standard) type ATF does not need replacing under normal driving conditions. But I had the ATF replaced by the dealership last year for peace of mind, as my car already reached 100,000 kms

    When buying a pre owned A/T car, try to do a cold start in the morning as much as possible. Shift it to D, the car should move right away. If it doesn't, an overhaul may be necessary (similar to our 1.8G)
    no such thing as ATF "never needs replacing" ginagaya lang nila BMW na "lifetime" fluid daw. correct na you replaced the ATF but personally I would be more comfortable replacing it between 40-60kms for peace of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark.609 View Post
    Thank you so much sir! :nod

    I had purchased a 1.6 g a/t 2002 altis. I had done this and will just replace all the fluids this week or next week.

    what atf fluid and coolant do you recommend using? unfortunately the owner "lost" the owner's manual so I don't have any idea what type of fluids am I supposed to buy
    Welcome sir! For the ATF, use Toyota Type IV, and sa coolant, Toyota Long Life Coolant for the 2002 Altis.

    The Toyota coolant is already pre-mixed, so you can pour it directly to the radiator and the coolant reservoir without mixing with distilled water. You may need 2 liters for a complete drain and fill.

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    #3212
    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    no such thing as ATF "never needs replacing" ginagaya lang nila BMW na "lifetime" fluid daw. correct na you replaced the ATF but personally I would be more comfortable replacing it between 40-60kms for peace of mind.
    Definitely agree sir. When I got the car (pre owned) at 40,000 kms, I requested for ATF change the first time I had it serviced. However, the SA told me that it was not necessary. Kahit sa mga sumunod na PMS, hindi daw recommended palitan, kaya naisip ko na din once it reaches 100, I'll have it replaced. Nung pinapalitan ko na at 100,000 kms, the fluid was still pretty clear, but I was more confident after the ATF replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chon961 View Post
    Welcome sir! For the ATF, use Toyota Type IV, and sa coolant, Toyota Long Life Coolant for the 2002 Altis.

    The Toyota coolant is already pre-mixed, so you can pour it directly to the radiator and the coolant reservoir without mixing with distilled water. You may need 2 liters for a complete drain and fill.
    complete drain, including engine block bro almost 4 liters

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    Quote Originally Posted by chon961 View Post
    Definitely agree sir. When I got the car (pre owned) at 40,000 kms, I requested for ATF change the first time I had it serviced. However, the SA told me that it was not necessary. Kahit sa mga sumunod na PMS, hindi daw recommended palitan, kaya naisip ko na din once it reaches 100, I'll have it replaced. Nung pinapalitan ko na at 100,000 kms, the fluid was still pretty clear, but I was more confident after the ATF replacement.
    wala kasi naman combustion sa transmission, kaya clear talaga lalabas. pero kung mapa test mo yun oil, im sure may mga metal shavings yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    wala kasi naman combustion sa transmission, kaya clear talaga lalabas. pero kung mapa test mo yun oil, im sure may mga metal shavings yan
    Agree sir, shavings from the metal parts of the transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    complete drain, including engine block bro almost 4 liters
    Sorry I meant 2 bottles of 2 liter Toyota coolant.

    Thanks for the clarification!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    complete drain, including engine block bro almost 4 liters
    4 Quarts ata yan, or 3.78Liters. sana hindi overfilled

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    4 Quarts ata yan, or 3.78Liters. sana hindi overfilled
    yup may tira naman mga 1/2 - 1/3 nun bottle bro rightafter
    btw bro baka mapadaan ka sa.wheel alignment thread, nakuha ko na.model nun hunter sa shell c5
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    #3219
    Guys question. Mayroon na bang nagpa warranty ng "melting dashboard" nila? Sa akin is 1.6V natutunaw yung dashboard. Alam ko may recall sa US. May nakapag claim na ba dito sa Philippines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossph View Post
    Guys question. Mayroon na bang nagpa warranty ng "melting dashboard" nila? Sa akin is 1.6V natutunaw yung dashboard. Alam ko may recall sa US. May nakapag claim na ba dito sa Philippines?
    Yup, had mine replaced by Toyota Cubao last July 2017. Sent them an email with the photos, requesting for dashboard replacement.

    Nakakapagtaka lang na humihingi sila nh records ng auto, dapat daw casa maintained, no connection naman yun sa defective material ng dashboard.

    It was approved after 2 months, then they advised me to proceed to the dealer. Took them 1 day to replace.

    Old melting dashboard

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    damaged-dash-1.jpg

    New dashboard

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    new-dash-5.jpg


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