List of Toyota D4D Probems (Choking, Hard Starting, etc.)

[brellrain]

Its really hard to tell if they already cured it. I wasn't aware of the d4d problem when we bought our innova back in 2005, all i have to say is this, the problem only showed late last year, that's 4 years before it showed up, so newer models, well we don't know, there's no guarantee.. If toyota can guarantee you that, then get it, but if you will only believe your sales agent, then no.. Don't buy one, look at other cars instead..

[Dieseldude]

Hi Guys & Gals on this thread!

I'm planning also in buying a diesel engine vehicle for everyday use in the field replacing our Altis 1.8, continue using the Altis is making a big hole in our budget. Anyways, I've been reading about the D4D engine problems, it seems to be like what happened to my trooper before, it just stops and eventually the engine is stalling frequently.

My wife and I just came from a Toyota dealer today to look at the Innova and I mentioned about this engine stalling problem, as the reply to this thread had been mentioning, they blame the fuel and fuel system but claims that the problem was already solved and it only affected older models.

I would like to ask if the problem was solved already for new models, especially 2010 models. We are choosing between Innova or Tucson but diesel engine of Tucson is not yet out.

Please help.....1M++ for a price tag is not easy to shell out especially if you get a lemon vehicle.

Thanks in advance

Hyundai Getz or Accent.

[CVT]

Its really hard to tell if they already cured it. I wasn't aware of the d4d problem when we bought our innova back in 2005, all i have to say is this, the problem only showed late last year, that's 4 years before it showed up, so newer models, well we don't know, there's no guarantee.. If toyota can guarantee you that, then get it, but if you will only believe your sales agent, then no.. Don't buy one, look at other cars instead..

This worries me.....

It seems like no one is out of the woods on this issue....

9505:spam:

[brellrain]

Agreed.. You'd never know what might happen, I for one wouldn't gamble my hard earned money for a car that's confirmed to have this problem, and although toyota say they already fixed this and that, sometimes it will take time for the problem to pop up, and worst, it emerges after the 3 year warranty.. Like in our case..

That's one of the reason why I don't understand some people who are still planning on buying innovas, fortuners and hi-luxs', why would you gamble? It's not like toyota are the only brand here in the philippines.. If a close friend/relative asked me what I think about them buying a toyota, I would advise them not to, because I love them..

[shibby75]

Biased naman kung tanungin mo ang mga ahente at empleyado ng toyota, ano pa ba isagot nyan kundi "ok na yan sir" "na-solve na 3 years ago"

Sabi ng bayaw ko na ahente sa toyota, meron sila mystery shopper everyday. kasama sa training nila i-deny ang D4D problem. Kahit yung mga problem sa ZZ engine ng altis alam nila.

Pero sabi nya, wag ka na mag diesel ng toyota.. kya I went for the VVti

[brellrain]

Yup, any agent will say anything just to get a sale..

[Dieseldude]

im planning to buy a new deisel car,and im choosing bet FORTUNER AND MONTERO SPORT,

Would you still recommend FORTUNER cosidering the so called D4D problem?
Or any other brand of deisel car that is better?

Hyundai Santa Fe

[Dieseldude]

Hi Fireblade,

Any news on Toyota?

[brellrain]

Hyundai Santa Fe

Ford Everest, Montero Sport, Isuzu Alterra, Kia Sorento(hopefully they release the Crdi version soon)

[Dieseldude]

Ford Everest and Kia Sorento use the Bosch CRDI system.

Mits Montero and Isuzu Alterra use the Denso CRDI system.

[cheng95]

Hyundai Santa Fe

Hyundai Santa Fe .

[skyhawk]

Hi Guys & Gals on this thread!

I'm planning also in buying a diesel engine vehicle for everyday use in the field replacing our Altis 1.8, continue using the Altis is making a big hole in our budget. Anyways, I've been reading about the D4D engine problems, it seems to be like what happened to my trooper before, it just stops and eventually the engine is stalling frequently.

My wife and I just came from a Toyota dealer today to look at the Innova and I mentioned about this engine stalling problem, as the reply to this thread had been mentioning, they blame the fuel and fuel system but claims that the problem was already solved and it only affected older models.

I would like to ask if the problem was solved already for new models, especially 2010 models. We are choosing between Innova or Tucson but diesel engine of Tucson is not yet out.

Please help.....1M++ for a price tag is not easy to shell out especially if you get a lemon vehicle.

Thanks in advance

sir...my bro had an innova 08 and last year he started to experience some abnormalities mentioned in this forum...i bought a tucson late 08 and i can say its almost perfect no regrets. my wife is planning to buy a fortuner (because of its looks and the name) but with the issues at their d4d engine, i dont think its the right time to buy a toyota diesel.

we went to toyota dasma to check the latest fortuner and when we asked about the issue they said it was already corrected but they said we can choose the gas variant instead.

for us, we'll have to wait (maybe) until the issue of the D4D engine is resolve before we decide whether to buy a diesel engine from toyota

[wolfhound]

bro if your eyeing for a fortuner, then go with montero sports instead. Specs-wise montero is better.

[timo07]

Ford Everest and Kia Sorento use the Bosch CRDI system.

Mits Montero and Isuzu Alterra use the Denso CRDI system.

Sir, you may be able to confirm this, I think the Montero has the same platform, engine wise, with the Strada. Isn't it that the strada uses Bosch Common Rail System?

[Dieseldude]

Sir, you may be able to confirm this, I think the Montero has the same platform, engine wise, with the Strada. Isn't it that the strada uses Bosch Common Rail System?

The old Strada used a Bosch/Zexel injection pump.

The new Strada and Montero both use the Denso common rail system.

[shibby75]

if they are the same denso system, do both brands share the same parts?

[timo07]

The old Strada used a Bosch/Zexel injection pump.

The new Strada and Montero both use the Denso common rail system.

Ah okay... Have you noticed sir if the Denso Pump Model being used on Stradas is the same with that of the Innovas?

We have 2 Strada with Common Rail System that has already accumulated about 60Tkm and they are still running fine. I might have read somewhere in tsikot that the Navaras also use Denso CRS.

Thanks.

[Dieseldude]

if they are the same denso system, do both brands share the same parts?

They may be of the same Denso brand but carry different part numbers. So some parts may be common, and some not.

[Dieseldude]

Ah okay... Have you noticed sir if the Denso Pump Model being used on Stradas is the same with that of the Innovas? Yes, same model, different part numbers.

We have 2 Strada with Common Rail System that has already accumulated about 60Tkm and they are still running fine. Great.

I might have read somewhere in tsikot that the Navaras also use Denso CRS. That is correct.

Thanks. You're welcome.

[timo07]

Ah okay... Have you noticed sir if the Denso Pump Model being used on Stradas is the same with that of the Innovas? Yes, same model, different part numbers.

We have 2 Strada with Common Rail System that has already accumulated about 60Tkm and they are still running fine. Great.

I might have read somewhere in tsikot that the Navaras also use Denso CRS. That is correct.

Thanks. You're welcome.

Thanks Dieseldude. Just want to clarify that I don't own 2 Stradas. "We" as in our company's business unit where I belong to.