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    #2221
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Eto naman the same reviewers reviewing the Fortuner. Walang ingat, sagasa lang sagasa sa trail

    Toyota Fortuner GXL | 4X4 Of The Year finalist 2015 | 4X4 Australia - YouTube ">Toyota Fortuner GXL | 4X4 Of The Year finalist 2015 | 4X4 Australia - YouTube " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350">

    Versus this one, the same reviewers pero tignan mo naman video halos puro patag na trail and yet they are very cautious in the video and very diplomatic sa words so ss not to offend Mitsubushi Australia siguro. Ang daldal nun reviewer hindi naman tinatackle yun 4x4 festures kungdi. Spec sheet halfway thru the video . Pero yun nga notice the tone of the reviewer in this video. Somewhat apprehensive. Eh kung totally confident sya sa dina-drive sagasa lang as the previous video

    Mitsubishi Pajero Sport GLS | Road test | 4X4 Australia - YouTube ">Mitsubishi Pajero Sport GLS | Road test | 4X4 Australia - YouTube " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350">


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    Pajero is not the same league of montero. But the 4x4 design and layout have the same or even advance on montero . Pajero 4x4 engine and technology has been a decade now. Besides the reality is will most of us will not use a 2 million worth of car in major trails. I rather buy 2nd hand car or cheaper suzuki jimny for this purpose. Im a dirt bike rider. I use a crf 250 which cost 300 k and i dont care about the broken flairings punctured radiator . Engine water flooding while river crossing to about 30 inch water with current. As long as it serves its purpose its ok. Sa montero i could use it as a rally car. Fast twisties maneuver. Yun mux ko na 4x2 with traction control pumitik or dumulas ang pwet duringsharp turn sa may lion at 70 kmh. But with montero i can make it at 80 kmh or even higher without traction lost. I use to do that on lancer evo 3 90 kmh at sharp curve.

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    #2222
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Fafa, sa totoo lang maka-Montero ako. Dami nagagalit sakin sa Montero thread coz I somehow favor the Fortuner. Pero para sakin di ko naman need dursbility ng Fortuner kasi andami-andami naka-fortuner sobra umay na. Gusto ko lang sila gumastos ng mas malaki by convincing them to get the more expensive Fortuner, para kay MyPres Du30, para tumaas lalo credit rating at GDP natin ngaun 2017


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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ikaw ang nag contribute ng mga at least 30K discount ng Monty dahil sa kakapromote mo daw ng Fort. LOL


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    #2223
    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    Sabi nga nila, to each his own. I used to like the montero even with the melting tail lights. Pero the more i look at it, especially the side profile pumapanget sa paningin ko. Too tall and narrow looking. I think the vertical lights accentuated the narrowness of the vehicle. Gusto pa naman namin ng puti, eh parang ambulansya ang dating. I like the front of Monty, no complain about that. Sana lang hindi tuluyang mapagiwanan sa sales ang Monty dahil for sure sa mga facelifted version ng mga upcoming PPVs, kung sobrang benta ng hubad na hubad na Fort what more na lang yung mga dadating upcoming year na facelifted version na mas marami ng techs paano pa kaya? Lalo sila maiiwan at in the future mahirap humanap ng pyesa kase konti ang market. Sana pumalagpalag naman si Monty sa sales vs. Fort ng di kampante si Toyota. Haha


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    Great point on the need for competition to avoid lackluster overpriced and underspec'd vehicles.

    Ford doesn't have the brand equity to compete with Toyota, Isuzu fielded an antique, and the Montero is an ugly duckling. Mitsubishi has the best chance to topple Toyota (as they've done in the past) - if only the Montero looked better.

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    #2224
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Eto naman the same reviewers reviewing the Fortuner. Walang ingat, sagasa lang sagasa sa trail

    Toyota Fortuner GXL | 4X4 Of The Year finalist 2015 | 4X4 Australia - YouTube ">Toyota Fortuner GXL | 4X4 Of The Year finalist 2015 | 4X4 Australia - YouTube " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350">

    Versus this one, the same reviewers pero tignan mo naman video halos puro patag na trail and yet they are very cautious in the video and very diplomatic sa words so ss not to offend Mitsubushi Australia siguro. Ang daldal nun reviewer hindi naman tinatackle yun 4x4 festures kungdi. Spec sheet halfway thru the video . Pero yun nga notice the tone of the reviewer in this video. Somewhat apprehensive. Eh kung totally confident sya sa dina-drive sagasa lang as the previous video

    Mitsubishi Pajero Sport GLS | Road test | 4X4 Australia - YouTube ">Mitsubishi Pajero Sport GLS | Road test | 4X4 Australia - YouTube " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350">


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    Syempre mitsubishi will show more on patag because most rival 4x4 cannot be use as rally car. Running more than 60 kmh on dry pave road or rough road. And if you are on a trail. It requires upgrades and driving lesson technicalities in what equipment are u using. And you will learn that either montero or fortuner will not be as capable as jimny suzuki because it has solid front axle. Thats why 70 's land cruser are still on demand because of its solid front axle and some still cost 900k. We at strada club that is hard core to trail may have to spend 300 k on top of the car for modification so are the hiluxs.

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    #2225
    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    Sabi nga nila, to each his own. I used to like the montero even with the melting tail lights. Pero the more i look at it, especially the side profile pumapanget sa paningin ko. Too tall and narrow looking. I think the vertical lights accentuated the narrowness of the vehicle. Gusto pa naman namin ng puti, eh parang ambulansya ang dating. I like the front of Monty, no complain about that. Sana lang hindi tuluyang mapagiwanan sa sales ang Monty dahil for sure sa mga facelifted version ng mga upcoming PPVs, kung sobrang benta ng hubad na hubad na Fort what more na lang yung mga dadating upcoming year na facelifted version na mas marami ng techs paano pa kaya? Lalo sila maiiwan at in the future mahirap humanap ng pyesa kase konti ang market. Sana pumalagpalag naman si Monty sa sales vs. Fort ng di kampante si Toyota. Haha


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    I choose montero because its fun to drive . Not because of its looks nor reliabilitiy. Mas pogi pa akong tignan sa ducati . Lalo na sa chicks hehe. About parts mas mura naman dihamak ang ppv. A bigbike maintenance and repair are way more expensive and parts are difficult to find some times i need to go in other country to buy the parts. And each minor semplang would cost the insurance at least 50 k. Rims ng bmw gs could cost a 100k pag nabingkong. So montero parts is not issue. In fact my mux consumable parts are bought in thailand. My mux has never been to casa. Its just a waste of money if you have. Know how on the mechanical parts. I am also a an engineer and mechanic. I modified and repair my motorcycle its my hobby. And motorcycle engine is more complicated than cars it runs at 13k to 15 k rpm. Producing 125 hp at mere 600cc. And failure would means death running at 260 to 300 kmh in just sub 30 seconds. I also have a full time mechanics that overhaul and maintain our companys trucks and service. And the funny thing is that when i claim warranty to hyundai they cant fix the engine when hot needs to start the key twice to start the engine. I was the one who solved the problem. I just dont trust casa except when i can see how they pms my cars . Had bad experience in them .it happen that they do the pms on the suzuki apv they forgot to tightened the drain plug. Yun tumagas sa nlex buti nalang nainform ng katabing car sa amin. Otherwise katok engine.
    Fortuner is a pratical car. Reliable less maintenace good resale value .People bought it for practicality rather than enjoyability. Most of our peers who are bikers bought montero for their performance and price practicality. A full time 4wd will be safer that 4x2 in high speed cornering. And this cannot be done by fortuner turning at 70 to 80 kmh at sharp curved. I have tried it in mux with traction control pumalo yun likod hehe.

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    #2226
    Quote Originally Posted by boybit View Post

    ... Fortuner is a pratical car. Reliable less maintenace good resale value .People bought it for practicality rather than enjoyability. Most of our peers who are bikers bought montero for their performance and price practicality. A full time 4wd will be safer that 4x2 in high speed cornering. And this cannot be done by fortuner turning at 70 to 80 kmh at sharp curved. I have tried it in mux with traction control pumalo yun likod hehe.
    I couldn't agree more, spot on. [emoji106]

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    #2227
    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ikaw ang nag contribute ng mga at least 30K discount ng Monty dahil sa kakapromote mo daw ng Fort. LOL


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    Though nag 145k nga ano from the previous 115k discount, pero I think that is Mitsu greed testing the market.

    They need a non-VGT Montero style of the past to save them from the Fortuner domination.

    I heard they released the GLX MT at 1.28M. So say

    Introducing the Montero Sport GLX 2WD 6 MT - Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation

    http://mmpc.ph/wp-content/uploads/20...X-2WD-6-MT.jpg

    May 100k discount. The GLS Standard might bottom out at 1.28M to follow the 100k difference between Mt and AT.

    So wait wait lang kayo. Lean months are coming.


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    #2228
    Quote Originally Posted by boybit View Post
    I choose montero because its fun to drive . Not because of its looks nor reliabilitiy. Mas pogi pa akong tignan sa ducati . Lalo na sa chicks hehe. About parts mas mura naman dihamak ang ppv. A bigbike maintenance and repair are way more expensive and parts are difficult to find some times i need to go in other country to buy the parts. And each minor semplang would cost the insurance at least 50 k. Rims ng bmw gs could cost a 100k pag nabingkong. So montero parts is not issue. In fact my mux consumable parts are bought in thailand. My mux has never been to casa. Its just a waste of money if you have. Know how on the mechanical parts. I am also a an engineer and mechanic. I modified and repair my motorcycle its my hobby. And motorcycle engine is more complicated than cars it runs at 13k to 15 k rpm. Producing 125 hp at mere 600cc. And failure would means death running at 260 to 300 kmh in just sub 30 seconds. I also have a full time mechanics that overhaul and maintain our companys trucks and service. And the funny thing is that when i claim warranty to hyundai they cant fix the engine when hot needs to start the key twice to start the engine. I was the one who solved the problem. I just dont trust casa except when i can see how they pms my cars . Had bad experience in them .it happen that they do the pms on the suzuki apv they forgot to tightened the drain plug. Yun tumagas sa nlex buti nalang nainform ng katabing car sa amin. Otherwise katok engine.
    Fortuner is a pratical car. Reliable less maintenace good resale value .People bought it for practicality rather than enjoyability. Most of our peers who are bikers bought montero for their performance and price practicality. A full time 4wd will be safer that 4x2 in high speed cornering. And this cannot be done by fortuner turning at 70 to 80 kmh at sharp curved. I have tried it in mux with traction control pumalo yun likod hehe.
    Ayun nga eh. I assume most people who bought monty are car savvy. They really know the technical advantages of monty to fort based on the specsheet. Yung marurunong magkalikot ng kotse. Problem is that hindi yun ang majority ng market ng PPVs. I think ang majority ng market ng ppv relies more on the looks, ease of maintenance, and brand equity. If fort continues to dominate the PPVS for the next 5 years magiging issue yang spare parts bec. Of the law of supply and demand. Katulad ng Chevrolet Cruze nawala na lang bigla sa kalsada.


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    #2229
    Ano naman kakalikutin mo sa montero? Specs wise lamang lang sa electronic features sa loob montero. At the end of the day maintenance and reliability will count.

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    #2230
    Naka electronic parking brake ba ang Fort? If hindi baka i pursue this one.

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    #2231
    Quote Originally Posted by boybit View Post
    I choose montero because its fun to drive . Not because of its looks nor reliabilitiy. Mas pogi pa akong tignan sa ducati . Lalo na sa chicks hehe. About parts mas mura naman dihamak ang ppv. A bigbike maintenance and repair are way more expensive and parts are difficult to find some times i need to go in other country to buy the parts. And each minor semplang would cost the insurance at least 50 k. Rims ng bmw gs could cost a 100k pag nabingkong. So montero parts is not issue. In fact my mux consumable parts are bought in thailand. My mux has never been to casa. Its just a waste of money if you have. Know how on the mechanical parts. I am also a an engineer and mechanic. I modified and repair my motorcycle its my hobby. And motorcycle engine is more complicated than cars it runs at 13k to 15 k rpm. Producing 125 hp at mere 600cc. And failure would means death running at 260 to 300 kmh in just sub 30 seconds. I also have a full time mechanics that overhaul and maintain our companys trucks and service. And the funny thing is that when i claim warranty to hyundai they cant fix the engine when hot needs to start the key twice to start the engine. I was the one who solved the problem. I just dont trust casa except when i can see how they pms my cars . Had bad experience in them .it happen that they do the pms on the suzuki apv they forgot to tightened the drain plug. Yun tumagas sa nlex buti nalang nainform ng katabing car sa amin. Otherwise katok engine.
    Fortuner is a pratical car. Reliable less maintenace good resale value .People bought it for practicality rather than enjoyability. Most of our peers who are bikers bought montero for their performance and price practicality. A full time 4wd will be safer that 4x2 in high speed cornering. And this cannot be done by fortuner turning at 70 to 80 kmh at sharp curved. I have tried it in mux with traction control pumalo yun likod hehe.
    IMO people buy PPVs mainly to be their daily drive car/ workhorse. If im going to choose a car to be daily driven or workhorse i want it to be reliable so reliability and maintenace is a big factor. Also, if i want a car to be fun to drive i'd rather get a proper capable 4x4. PPvs are like jack of all trades but master of none.

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    #2232
    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Ano naman kakalikutin mo sa montero? Specs wise lamang lang sa electronic features sa loob montero. At the end of the day maintenance and reliability will count.

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    Proof na alam ni toyota ang market niya. Hehehe.


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    #2233
    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Naka electronic parking brake ba ang Fort? If hindi baka i pursue this one.

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    Hindi. Si monty lang ang naka electronic parking brake sa big three afaik.


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    #2234
    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Naka electronic parking brake ba ang Fort? If hindi baka i pursue this one.

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    Normal handbrake ang Fortuner.

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    #2235
    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    Hindi. Si monty lang ang naka electronic parking brake sa big three afaik.


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    Okay. Then it's better nga. Elecrronics do break down in an unpleasant moments.
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    Normal handbrake ang Fortuner.

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    #2236
    Guys, timing chain na ba or belt driven pa ang gd series? Just want to clarify it hehe. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZforFUN View Post
    Guys, timing chain na ba or belt driven pa ang gd series? Just want to clarify it hehe. Thanks


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    timing chain.. the belt outside is just the drive belt

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    #2238
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    timing chain.. the belt outside is just the drive belt

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    Thanks for the quick reply sir [emoji1360]


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    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    ayon lang sir, mejo purist kase ako. haha. hindi ba mavovoid ang warranty pag nag add ako ng TPMS na naka hardwire sa fusebox? ang gusto ko kase if wala talagang choice eh yung TPMS na nasa spare dash slots lang. salamat
    Yung sa akin sir no wires needed, naka bluetooth na yung TPMS sa controller.

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    Good morning sirs!!!
    Anybody who can lead me to a prolly better SA for a Fort 4x2G m/t?
    Paid the reservation fee of 5k with Toyota La Union 1st week of Feb pa with an approved PO from PNB, d naman naga-update yun SA ko even if I call/text her, very seldom na me makuha ako reply. In fact kahapon she promised to update me kung pang-ilan na ako sa pila, waited the whole day. . . wala. Was trying to call her, me text din. . . no comms =(

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