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    #141
    and if the next administration happens to be binay's, then expect ghosts instead of jets.

    maitim na dwende! pwe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    and if the next administration happens to be binay's, then expect ghosts instead of jets.

    maitim na dwende! pwe!
    Deym! Ghost Black Jet MRF planes ang mangyayari. Basta't maliit na tao corrupt! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    The Harpoon is also almost twice as heavy as the Maverick which further degrades the FA50's already unimpressive range.



    Yep it's a trainer that also happens to be able to carry missiles, radar, and a gun. Vote wisely if you want the PAF to get an MRF as it is slated to be purchased in the next administration ;)
    There's a lot of senatoriables who doesn't want the AFP to get modernize...one of them...*TC*

    and one of them is really focused on upgrading the AFP and fast...*DG*

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    The Harpoon is also almost twice as heavy as the Maverick which further degrades the FA50's already unimpressive range.
    You can fire the Harpoon from land, sea and air... just lock and load.

    The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile system, developed and manufactured by McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing Defense, Space & Security). In 2004, Boeing delivered the 7,000th Harpoon unit since the weapon's introduction in 1977. The missile system has also been further developed into a land-strike weapon, the Standoff Land Attack Missile (SLAM).

    The regular Harpoon uses active radar homing, and a low-level, sea-skimming cruise trajectory to improve survivability and lethality. The missile's launch platforms include:

    Fixed-wing aircraft (the AGM-84, without the solid-fuel rocket booster)

    Surface ships (the RGM-84, fitted with a solid-fuel rocket booster that detaches when expended, to allow the missile's main turbojet to maintain flight)

    Submarines (the UGM-84, fitted with a solid-fuel rocket booster and encapsulated in a container to enable submerged launch through a torpedo tube);

    Coastal defense batteries, from which it would be fired with a solid-fuel rocket booster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronki View Post
    There's a lot of senatoriables who doesn't want the AFP to get modernize...one of them...*TC*

    and one of them is really focused on upgrading the AFP and fast...*DG*
    TC is very much afraid the Golden Eagles will be used to carpet bomb his comrades way up in the mountains.

    What he probably doesn't know is that the PAF is lining up the Embraer Super Tucanos as their chief counterinsurgency aircraft.

    Didn't anyone notice that media is quite eager to get reactions on AFP modernization from identified leftist politicians as well as academicians from U.P. who pass themselves off as "political analysts"? Dapat si Satur Ocampo nalang ang ininterview nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    You can fire the Harpoon from land, sea and air... just lock and load.



    Wow! Maybe the PA or PN can request a couple of these and have them positioned near Pag-Asa Islands as well as off the coast of Palawan. Yun nga lang, maintaining a battery of these missle launchers and having enough ordnance is hella-expensive. Baka yung truck na ginawang launchpad ma chop chop ng di oras.

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    #147
    Tatahimik kaya sila if we bought Chinese? Not far-fetched if the Communists take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Tatahimik kaya sila if we bought Chinese? Not far-fetched if the Communists take over.
    Probably not.

    TC would have our AFP defend the country with nothing more than scythes and pitchforks. Or, maybe harsh language.

    Maybe if the PA switched their primary battle rifle to the AK-47, baka lumambot si Casino Royale.

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    Dapat invest talaga sa ABM ang Pilipinas.

    Sana imrove pa lala relation ng Philippines and Israel. Ang ganda ng mga nagagawa nila talaga.


    Ok din satin Club K missile system kasi very mobile and pwede itago kahit sa edsa.






    Sorry medyo OT na.
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    Although not re the PAF, this is a Polish interview with a KAI rep that may well be what the PAF will be going through.

    However, before future pilots take their place behind the controls of the T-50 Golden Eagle, they must complete training on a flight simulator. What kind of simulator is used to train pilots in Korea, and would the same one be used in the Polish Air Force?

    To answer your question appropriately, this is not simply a simulator. It is a very complex system requiring a simulator and trainer, as well as the capacity to acquire knowledge on electronic devices, computers and stations. This includes a system to plan missions and a post-mission debriefing system. This also requires a very complex and efficient system to manage the entire training program of the pilots, which is capable of tracking the progress in the education of individual pilots and eventually asses their results. Taking under account the tender requirements set out by the Ministry of National Defence, we offered a complete ground-training program. The important thing here, is that this complete system will be capable of modernising the Polish Air Force. The aircraft itself cannot modernise the Air Force. The key aspect here is a very well organised system and procedures involved in pilot training. At this point I would also like to add, that this system has already been implemented in the Korean Air Force. It has been used for several years now, and its effectiveness has been proven by analyses of the Korean Air Force.
    Interview with Mr Jan Lee, the marketing manager of Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI)

    So it's not just flying the plane. They'll get trained in mission planning and other stuff. And that's just for the pilots. The maintenance crew has their own set of skills and tools to learn. The planes are also useless without a long-range ground-based radar to guide them to potential threats. These radar sets are next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonski View Post
    Dapat invest talaga sa ABM ang Pilipinas.

    Ok din satin Club K missile system kasi very mobile and pwede itago kahit sa edsa.
    ...then come time, di makaabot sa deployment position dahil sa traffic o hinuhuli ng buwaya?

    Ah, the Philippine society...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Although not re the PAF, this is a Polish interview with a KAI rep that may well be what the PAF will be going through.



    Interview with Mr Jan Lee, the marketing manager of Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI)

    So it's not just flying the plane. They'll get trained in mission planning and other stuff. And that's just for the pilots. The maintenance crew has their own set of skills and tools to learn. The planes are also useless without a long-range ground-based radar to guide them to potential threats. These radar sets are next.
    how about AWACS? most US & israeli air kills had been initiated with the radar guidance of this electronic eye in the sky
    Last edited by kisshmet; February 11th, 2013 at 05:25 PM.

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    So far ground-based pa lang pinaguusapan since nawala na or minimal na lang ang capability natin in that area. AWACS may be in the nice-to-have-but-not-now list. I hope that it will come with the MRFs

    AWACS doesn't have to be big. This is from Israel:

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    how about drones? are they in the list also?

    these T50s are practically a manned drone with out the PROPER weapons system
    Last edited by kisshmet; February 11th, 2013 at 05:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    So far ground-based pa lang pinaguusapan since nawala na or minimal na lang ang capability natin in that area. AWACS may be in the nice-to-have-but-not-now list. I hope that it will come with the MRFs

    AWACS doesn't have to be big. This is from Israel:
    how many of that AWACS do you think will suffice for a 24x7 operation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    these T50s are practically a manned drone with out the PROPER weapons system
    Exactly. The FA50s are LIFTs (Lead-In Fighter Trainers). Their primary purpose is to train our boys and girls to fly and maintain supersonic jets again. The real fighters are the MRFs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Exactly. The FA50s are LIFTs (Lead-In Fighter Trainers). Their primary purpose is to train our boys and girls to fly and maintain supersonic jets again. The real fighters are the MRFs.
    Para sa mga nagtatanong kung bakit trainer jets ng Korea ang kinuha muna ng Pinas kaysa sa F-22 Raptor(in your dreams) etc.

    What is a LIFT, and why do we need it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Para sa mga nagtatanong kung bakit trainer jets ng Korea ang kinuha muna ng Pinas kaysa sa F-22 Raptor(in your dreams) etc.

    What is a LIFT, and why do we need it?

    And sana dapat after ng LIFT eh MRF na ang kunin ni Future President B.

    Sana....

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    Well, whoever the President will be after PNOY, I hope he, along with Congress gives importance to modernizing the AFP simply because there are external threats to our sovreignty and national territory.

    We can't patrol our skies, especially near those disputed waters because our PAF, as it stands right now, is largely a HELICOPTER force with more Vietnam-era flying choppers than modern ones. And our navy, apart from a coast guard cutter built in the 60's (which is the most modern boat it has) can't guard our territorial seas with nothing more than a mosquito fleet of small patrol boats more suited for patroling internal waterways.

    Sheesh. We don't even have missle capability on any of our air or naval assets. I don't even know why the PH does all these Balikatan exercises when its painfully obvious that its security forces' capabilities are not close to being decent as far as its favorite war-exercises partner is concerned.

    You can't hope to deter an opposing force with obsolete equipment. I really hope our mostly good-for-nothing politios realize that before China annexes another island within our territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Para sa mga nagtatanong kung bakit trainer jets ng Korea ang kinuha muna ng Pinas kaysa sa F-22 Raptor(in your dreams) etc.

    What is a LIFT, and why do we need it?
    raptors are banned for export even to israelis
    Last edited by kisshmet; February 11th, 2013 at 11:14 PM.

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