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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the navy doesnt even have destroyers
    Meron naman maski pahapyaw. BRP Rajah Humabon. Former destroyer-escort nga lang. At least may destroyer sa title at the only active naval ship that has a confirmed submarine kill.

    :D

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    #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The Philippines has the "distinction" of having the "oldest" active warship in the world that actually sunk a German U-boat....its was acquired from the US in 1975 after it was returned by the JSDF. Third hand ship...hehehe. It is kept afloat because they can't buy new ones. Most of her weaponry were removed because they are too old and without spares. I'm sure many collectors will want to put it in a proper musuem...
    Actually someone is interested to buy the ship once PH Navy retired it. Rare na ang WW2-era ship na kaya pa umandar.

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    #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Actually someone is interested to buy the ship once PH Navy retired it. Rare na ang WW2-era ship na kaya pa umandar.
    Na retired na nga nung 1993, pero binalik sa serbisyo kasi walang mabili/pangbili...hehehe.

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    #125
    ^That's like 5 Rafales or F-35's already.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #126
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    ^That's like 5 Rafales or F-35's already.
    We can't jump to those fighters without having advanced trainers first.

    It's like riding a bike then go drive a super car.

    After those FA-50's then we can go for a better, fighter jet.

    AFP/PAF's going bang for the buck, you get an advanced trainer and a light fighter/bomber in one package.

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    #127
    S211 cockpit (posted on Timawa.net)


    Thai Gripen cockpit


    Medyo malayo. Parang 5110 vs iPhone Our flyboys and flygirls need something to practice on before graduating to true-blue fighters. Hence the FA50.

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    #128
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Medyo malayo. Parang 5110 vs iPhone Our flyboys and flygirls need something to practice on before graduating to true-blue fighters. Hence the FA50.
    Hinde 5110 vs IPhone,


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    #129
    Parang analog vs digital hehe. Problem pa natin is logistics/ after service. Mahal mag maintain ng ganitong air craft. Much cheaper siguro kung missile na lang ang develope natin

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    #130
    Logistics, training for both pilots and maintenance, and spare parts for a few years are part of the contract. We're not just buying the planes. We're buying the whole package

    Missiles cannot patrol. Firing a missile is an act of war. And what happens if an airliner is misidentified?
    Last edited by JohnM; February 4th, 2013 at 02:23 PM.

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    #131
    I think nagpadala na ang PAF ng mga pilots sa SK para i-train eh.

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    #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    Parang analog vs digital hehe. Problem pa natin is logistics/ after service. Mahal mag maintain ng ganitong air craft. Much cheaper siguro kung missile na lang ang develope natin
    The PH has a long way to go before it's able to get SAM or SSM technology. For now, being able to train pilots and ground personnel to handle more sophisticated jets is the roadmap to building a credible defense over our skies.
    Last edited by Altis6453; February 4th, 2013 at 03:05 PM.

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    #133
    Deym leave some money for a bundle of Exocets. Don't care for overpriced aircraft but they better make sure whatever aircraft they get is capable of carrying Exocets.

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    #134
    Quote Originally Posted by desmosedici View Post
    Deym leave some money for a bundle of Exocets. Don't care for overpriced aircraft but they better make sure whatever aircraft they get is capable of carrying Exocets.
    Based on publicly available info, the Golden Eagles are not equiped to handle the Exocet weapon system.

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    #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Based on publicly available info, the Golden Eagles are not equiped to handle the Exocet weapon system.
    Do you know what these birds can pack in terms of long range anti ship capability?

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    #136
    Quote Originally Posted by desmosedici View Post
    Do you know what these birds can pack in terms of long range anti ship capability?
    According to wiki none as of now. The only AGM mentioned was the Maverick. That's why we still need MRFs after the LIFTs.

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    #137
    Quote Originally Posted by desmosedici View Post
    Do you know what these birds can pack in terms of long range anti ship capability?
    Mavericks are for tanks. PAF should buy the appropriate weapons to counter what's on the threat board.

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    #138
    Quote Originally Posted by desmosedici View Post
    Mavericks are for tanks. PAF should buy the appropriate weapons to counter what's on the threat board.
    There's a source online which says that a variant of the Maverick, the AGM 65F is the anti-ship version being used by the US Navy. The max effective range is about 22 km, so it's not quite long range.

    We should have moderate expectations with the Golden Eagle jets since its primary purpose is for training. Its ability to mount more sophisticated missiles doesn't make it a frontline fighter or one intended for interdiction missions.
    Last edited by Altis6453; February 5th, 2013 at 10:37 PM.

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    #139
    Since the Golden Eagle is a bastard twin of the F-16... It may be modified carry the AGM 84 Harpoon anti-ship missle. Cost of one missle= USD 1 million a pop.




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    #140
    The Harpoon is also almost twice as heavy as the Maverick which further degrades the FA50's already unimpressive range.

    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    We should have moderate expectations with the Golden Eagle jets since its primary purpose is for training. Its ability to mount more sophisticated missiles doesn't make it a frontline fighter or one intended for interdiction missions.
    Yep it's a trainer that also happens to be able to carry missiles, radar, and a gun. Vote wisely if you want the PAF to get an MRF as it is slated to be purchased in the next administration ;)
    Last edited by JohnM; February 6th, 2013 at 09:56 AM.

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