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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by miso_honi View Post
    lessons from the pearl harbor attack:
    never park the planes in close proximity with each other,
    protect the assets from an aerial attack using Hardened Air Shelters (HAS).
    without proper storage and secure parking areas, the dreamed about military hardware are sitting ducks, bait, targets and a great loss of hard earned cash.
    there are hardly if any radars and air space intrusion capability. this is where PAGASA satellites and radars have to be tapped to augment the area awareness. so much for the aircraft, where are the refuelling stations? how about command and control? armament resupply? hangars for pre-flight, post-flight inspections? aerial refuellilng? maintenance docks? these are major assets that need to be maintained and protected. this is more complex than just planning and purchasing equipment
    As for the radars, I think we're getting help from Uncle Sam together with a coast watch monitoring system. Other things like munition stores, maintenance etc. are supposed to be part of the ILS. Aerial refueling capability? That might be far off considering that the present philosophy of the AFP, or the PAF for that matter is to provide a territorial defensive stance for our airspace.

    For aerial refueling, I think you'd have to have forward airbases from where you'd launch your refueling platform so that you can extend the operational range of your fighter aircraft.
    Last edited by Altis6453; June 22nd, 2012 at 08:43 AM.

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    #62
    pwede rin siguro consider nila magkaroon din tayo ng Drone Aircraft
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    sana my ka tsikot din tayo taga airforce makapgcomment...even if it is classified hehehehe

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    #63
    drones have very limited situational awareness and are susceptible to electronic warfare
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #64
    I think the purchase announcement of the TA-50 is premature...mukhang nakuryente tayo ng yellow army Lopez media network...


    Korea to export TA-50 jets to Philippines


    Korea to export TA-50 jets to Philippines

    The Korea Herald/Asia News Network
    Thursday, Jun 21, 2012
    MANILA - The Philippines air force has decided to purchase 12 TA-50 trainer jets from South Korea in a project worth nearly $360 million(S$457 million), a Philippines broadcaster reported Wednesday.

    The aircraft produced by Korea Aerospace Industries will be delivered within next year, ABS-CBN reported citing air force officials.

    The trainer jets are priced at 1.25 billion pesos (S$37.8 million) each, it added.

    Seoul's Defense Acquisition Program Administration, however, said that although it was working on exporting the TA-50 to the Philippines it has yet to receive any confirmation on the issue.

    According to reports, the Philippine government is conducting a 70 billion peso program to update its military's equipment, and a significant proportion of the budget is to be directed into bolstering the air force.

    The TA-50 is a weaponry-equipped trainer jet with attack and operational capabilities matching those of the KF-16 fighter jets operated by the Korean Air Force.

    The TA-50 is fitted with the F404-GE102 engine used in the F-18 fighter jet, and is equipped with digital flight control systems and radar.

    Seoul's Air Force currently operates 21 TA-50 trainer fighter jets, and the first batch of Air Force pilots trained in the aircraft will go into active service at the end of the year.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM.

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    #65
    haha

    sabi ko nga dyan magaling ang pinoy -- mag press release

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    OVER-PROMISE

    UNDER-DELIVER

    hehehe
    Last edited by uls; June 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM.

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    #66
    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    pwede rin siguro consider nila magkaroon din tayo ng Drone Aircraft
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    sana my ka tsikot din tayo taga airforce makapgcomment...even if it is classified hehehehe
    Afaik, the NSA acquired 2 MQ-1 Predator drones. The unarmed version. Their use is strictly for recon on the front lines against MILF, ASG and CPP-NPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Afaik, the NSA acquired 2 MQ-1 Predator drones. The unarmed version. Their use is strictly for recon on the front lines against MILF, ASG and CPP-NPA.
    meron pala tayo nun...at mabuti naman meron 'predator drones' ang airforce...
    sana dagdagan pa nila un armed version naman yun pwede maghulog ng bomd sa abu sayaf

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    #68
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    drones have very limited situational awareness and are susceptible to electronic warfare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Afaik, the NSA acquired 2 MQ-1 Predator drones. The unarmed version. Their use is strictly for recon on the front lines against MILF, ASG and CPP-NPA.
    The Philippine did recieve battlefield drone. Unfortunately it crashed and someone tried to sell it on Ebay... like everything else from the AFP. Kaya the US is wary of giving high tech weapons to the banana republic.


    Filipino man guilty of selling UAV on eBay

    Published 2 August 2011

    Last week a Filipino man pleaded guilty to violating arms export and smuggling laws by selling parts from an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) on eBay; in February, DHS officials arrested Henson Chua of Manila, Philippines after he shipped undercover agents a three-foot long, hand-launched, computer-controlled RQ-11A/B Raven surveillance drone

    Last week a Filipino man pleaded guilty to violating arms export and smuggling laws by selling parts from an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) on eBay.

    In February, DHS officials arrested Henson Chua of Manila, Philippines after he shipped undercover agents a three-foot long, hand-launched, computer-controlled RQ-11A/B Raven surveillance drone.

    Chua could face as much as twenty years in prison, but is likely to face less as he has agreed to work with federal investigators in a plea bargain. Chua will cooperate with investigators and even go so far as to testify against family members at times.U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents first noticed Chua in May 2010 after the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida saw the drone for sale on eBay for $13,000.

    SOCOM investigators discovered that the UAV actually belonged to them after reading one of the bar codes that was visible on one of the photographs posted on the site.

    According to his arrest affidavit, Chua said he was representing the drone’s owner who had purchased it at a government auction in the Philippines as abandoned property.

    Undercover agents contacted Chua posing as intermediaries for a Russian buyer. During negotiations for the drone, eBay removed the item as it violated the auction site’s policies which prohibit the sale of military goods.

    Investigators continued to press ahead with deal communicating by phone and email. In particular agents discussed the difficulties of obtaining the proper paper work. The sale was finalized last August, despite lacking proper permits.

    Agents sent Chua the money through PayPal and he then shipped the drone in two parts – first the fuselage and then the nose cone.

    Chua’s attorney, William Jung, said that the sale was not for the whole drone.

    “It wasn’t the entire thing,” Jung said. “It didn’t have wings. It was basically parts.”

    For unspecified reasons, Chua came to the United States in February where he was arrested.

    Chua has already returned the $13,000 that he received from the U.S. government in the undercover sting operation.

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    #70
    naku baka binenta na ng mga corrupt na AFP official yun dalawang MQ-1 predator drones hehehe...sana naman hindi...grabe yun mga AFP official dati mga 'Ganid' sa pera...

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