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    Quote Originally Posted by miso_honi View Post
    lessons from the pearl harbor attack:
    never park the planes in close proximity with each other,
    protect the assets from an aerial attack using Hardened Air Shelters (HAS).
    without proper storage and secure parking areas, the dreamed about military hardware are sitting ducks, bait, targets and a great loss of hard earned cash.
    there are hardly if any radars and air space intrusion capability. this is where PAGASA satellites and radars have to be tapped to augment the area awareness. so much for the aircraft, where are the refuelling stations? how about command and control? armament resupply? hangars for pre-flight, post-flight inspections? aerial refuellilng? maintenance docks? these are major assets that need to be maintained and protected. this is more complex than just planning and purchasing equipment
    As for the radars, I think we're getting help from Uncle Sam together with a coast watch monitoring system. Other things like munition stores, maintenance etc. are supposed to be part of the ILS. Aerial refueling capability? That might be far off considering that the present philosophy of the AFP, or the PAF for that matter is to provide a territorial defensive stance for our airspace.

    For aerial refueling, I think you'd have to have forward airbases from where you'd launch your refueling platform so that you can extend the operational range of your fighter aircraft.
    Last edited by Altis6453; June 22nd, 2012 at 08:43 AM.

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    pwede rin siguro consider nila magkaroon din tayo ng Drone Aircraft
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    sana my ka tsikot din tayo taga airforce makapgcomment...even if it is classified hehehehe

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    drones have very limited situational awareness and are susceptible to electronic warfare
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #64
    I think the purchase announcement of the TA-50 is premature...mukhang nakuryente tayo ng yellow army Lopez media network...


    Korea to export TA-50 jets to Philippines


    Korea to export TA-50 jets to Philippines

    The Korea Herald/Asia News Network
    Thursday, Jun 21, 2012
    MANILA - The Philippines air force has decided to purchase 12 TA-50 trainer jets from South Korea in a project worth nearly $360 million(S$457 million), a Philippines broadcaster reported Wednesday.

    The aircraft produced by Korea Aerospace Industries will be delivered within next year, ABS-CBN reported citing air force officials.

    The trainer jets are priced at 1.25 billion pesos (S$37.8 million) each, it added.

    Seoul's Defense Acquisition Program Administration, however, said that although it was working on exporting the TA-50 to the Philippines it has yet to receive any confirmation on the issue.

    According to reports, the Philippine government is conducting a 70 billion peso program to update its military's equipment, and a significant proportion of the budget is to be directed into bolstering the air force.

    The TA-50 is a weaponry-equipped trainer jet with attack and operational capabilities matching those of the KF-16 fighter jets operated by the Korean Air Force.

    The TA-50 is fitted with the F404-GE102 engine used in the F-18 fighter jet, and is equipped with digital flight control systems and radar.

    Seoul's Air Force currently operates 21 TA-50 trainer fighter jets, and the first batch of Air Force pilots trained in the aircraft will go into active service at the end of the year.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 22nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM.

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    #65
    haha

    sabi ko nga dyan magaling ang pinoy -- mag press release

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    OVER-PROMISE

    UNDER-DELIVER

    hehehe
    Last edited by uls; June 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    pwede rin siguro consider nila magkaroon din tayo ng Drone Aircraft
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    sana my ka tsikot din tayo taga airforce makapgcomment...even if it is classified hehehehe
    Afaik, the NSA acquired 2 MQ-1 Predator drones. The unarmed version. Their use is strictly for recon on the front lines against MILF, ASG and CPP-NPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Afaik, the NSA acquired 2 MQ-1 Predator drones. The unarmed version. Their use is strictly for recon on the front lines against MILF, ASG and CPP-NPA.
    meron pala tayo nun...at mabuti naman meron 'predator drones' ang airforce...
    sana dagdagan pa nila un armed version naman yun pwede maghulog ng bomd sa abu sayaf

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    #68
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    drones have very limited situational awareness and are susceptible to electronic warfare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Afaik, the NSA acquired 2 MQ-1 Predator drones. The unarmed version. Their use is strictly for recon on the front lines against MILF, ASG and CPP-NPA.
    The Philippine did recieve battlefield drone. Unfortunately it crashed and someone tried to sell it on Ebay... like everything else from the AFP. Kaya the US is wary of giving high tech weapons to the banana republic.


    Filipino man guilty of selling UAV on eBay

    Published 2 August 2011

    Last week a Filipino man pleaded guilty to violating arms export and smuggling laws by selling parts from an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) on eBay; in February, DHS officials arrested Henson Chua of Manila, Philippines after he shipped undercover agents a three-foot long, hand-launched, computer-controlled RQ-11A/B Raven surveillance drone

    Last week a Filipino man pleaded guilty to violating arms export and smuggling laws by selling parts from an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) on eBay.

    In February, DHS officials arrested Henson Chua of Manila, Philippines after he shipped undercover agents a three-foot long, hand-launched, computer-controlled RQ-11A/B Raven surveillance drone.

    Chua could face as much as twenty years in prison, but is likely to face less as he has agreed to work with federal investigators in a plea bargain. Chua will cooperate with investigators and even go so far as to testify against family members at times.U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents first noticed Chua in May 2010 after the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida saw the drone for sale on eBay for $13,000.

    SOCOM investigators discovered that the UAV actually belonged to them after reading one of the bar codes that was visible on one of the photographs posted on the site.

    According to his arrest affidavit, Chua said he was representing the drone’s owner who had purchased it at a government auction in the Philippines as abandoned property.

    Undercover agents contacted Chua posing as intermediaries for a Russian buyer. During negotiations for the drone, eBay removed the item as it violated the auction site’s policies which prohibit the sale of military goods.

    Investigators continued to press ahead with deal communicating by phone and email. In particular agents discussed the difficulties of obtaining the proper paper work. The sale was finalized last August, despite lacking proper permits.

    Agents sent Chua the money through PayPal and he then shipped the drone in two parts – first the fuselage and then the nose cone.

    Chua’s attorney, William Jung, said that the sale was not for the whole drone.

    “It wasn’t the entire thing,” Jung said. “It didn’t have wings. It was basically parts.”

    For unspecified reasons, Chua came to the United States in February where he was arrested.

    Chua has already returned the $13,000 that he received from the U.S. government in the undercover sting operation.

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    naku baka binenta na ng mga corrupt na AFP official yun dalawang MQ-1 predator drones hehehe...sana naman hindi...grabe yun mga AFP official dati mga 'Ganid' sa pera...

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    hahaha it crashed haha

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    bili nalang yung airforce ng mga laruan na radio-controlled helicopter... yung binebenta sa toys r us

    tapos lagyan ng naliit ng video camera

    drone na mura

    hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hahaha it crashed haha
    Anyone still remember this Senate Investigation? ...


    By David Dizon, abs-cbnNEWS.com

    Posted at 02/03/2011 5:59 PM
    MANILA, Philippines – Diversions of soldiers’ salaries and United Nations funds, multi-million cash gifts to military chiefs of staffs, and illegal military contracts were just some of the bombshells revealed during Thursday’s resumption of the Senate Blue Ribbon committee hearing on military corruption.

    Former military budget officer George Rabusa revealed that the military lost $2 million or around P90 million to an illegal military contract to purchase unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) from an Israeli firm.

    He said a certain retired General Logico approached the military top brass including then Defense Secretary Angelo Reyes, then AFP chief of staff Diomedio Villanueva and then AFP vice-chief Roy Cimatu to present the proposal.

    Because of a desire to beef up its capability against the Abu Sayyaf, the military top brass approved the project and ordered Garcia and Rabusa to produce the $2 million in just one week for the purchase of UAV demo units.

    “Since it was approved, we were instructed to produce the money. Siyempre wala kaming isasagot kundi yes. We had no canvass, no bidding,” Rabusa said.

    The $2 million was deposited to the Security Bank Makati Herrera branch, whose manager, Bernie Tocmo, was a friend of Logico.

    However, he said the UAV project was a disaster because the demo units were falling from the sky after being deployed in Mindanao.

    “Nagbagsakan yun. Hindi po nagamit. I don’t know how long. Palpak, nagbagsakan. Na 1-2-3 tayo. We had no more contact with the Israeli company,” he said.

    Rabusa said a certain Commander Paglinawan from ISAFP was able to recover more than P2 million in Customs duties paid for the UAVs.

    However, he said Paglinawan asked for a cut of the recovered Customs duties before sending the rest to the J6.

    “I told him, awasin mo na yung ‘for the boys.’ Yung pera binigay ko kay General Garcia, about P2 million something. Naghirap kami pero wala kaming nakuha,” he said.

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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The Philippine did recieve battlefield drone. Unfortunately it crashed and someone tried to sell it on Ebay... like everything else from the AFP. Kaya the US is wary of giving high tech weapons to the banana republic.
    I think that was a different UAV which crashed. The MQ-1 is being operated by NSA and not the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I think that was a different UAV which crashed. The MQ-1 is being operated by NSA and not the military.



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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post


    Great find, M.

    One wonders if any of the remaining UAVs are still operational. The early model Predators were prone to icing in Afghanistan so the manufacturer changed the engine and added some de-icing devices.

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    #77
    kahit may drones tayo, kahit ma-locate ng drones ang mga Abu S... tapos? ano nangyayari?

    hanggang ngayon di parin ma-wipe out mga Abu S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kahit may drones tayo, kahit ma-locate ng drones ang mga Abu S... tapos? ano nangyayari?

    hanggang ngayon di parin ma-wipe out mga Abu S.

    Puro toothless dogs kasi ang binibili. May barko wala namang ship-to-ship missiles. Bibili ng jetplanes, wala namang air-to-air missiles. Puro kupit kasi ang priority ng mga generals at sundalo eh.

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    #79
    drone operator: "Sir! Sir! eto po sila"

    si Sir: "good."

    that's it

    yan lang

    nakita lang

    hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kahit may drones tayo, kahit ma-locate ng drones ang mga Abu S... tapos? ano nangyayari?

    hanggang ngayon di parin ma-wipe out mga Abu S.
    That's already asking too much from your goverment...

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