Suzuki APV [Merged Threads]

[aimphilippines]

Hi aimphilippines.. welcome to tsikot as well. here are my answers to your questions below.

1. Sa mga nababasa ko po sa different forums parang madali masira ang APV. Like Radiator Fan / Auxiliary Fan / Dashboard Clock etc.
Sa mga may ari po dito ng APV Type 1 at Type 2 puwede po ba sabihin ninyo kung ano ano na ang nasira sa sasakyan ninyo at kung gaano kabilis ito nasira mula sa time na binili ninyo (Example: Replaced Radiator Fan - 4 Months from purchase).

I have a 2009 Type 1 APV - nothing broken as of yet. daily drive currently reaching its 50,000 kilometer reading.. regarding the aux fan - I have heard number of issues that either the fan is noisy, or others not working.. but still a small percentage, also, its normal for it to loose its power.. (wear and tear - ika nga..) but mine is still working with no issues.. Dashboard clock? actually the issue with that one is its powered by a separate button battery and it can be easily removed..


2. Sa mga nabasa ko din po. Mukang pahirapan ang parts. Baka pwede po ninyo i share yung waiting time ninyo sa parts na kinailangan palitan (Example: Radiator Fan - 3 Months Waiting Time Casa - No Parts Outside Casa).

After my 1st PMS sa CASA.. i already stopped going there for its PMS schedule.. changed to my suking talyer for my every 10k change oil.. as far as I know.. if the part is not available, they can have it shipped or produced within 2 weeks to 3 months.. depending on the part. (this involves all suzuki models).. but anything in particular with the APV.. none yet. But since the APV has an old G16A engine.. parts are readily available outside CASA with much cheaper price.

3. Meron ako napagtanungan sa parking lot last week nung nag park ako. APV Type 1 dala niya. Ang tanong ko ... Boss ano reklamo mo sa APV kung meron. Unang sagot niya sa akin "malakas kumain ng gas". Talaga ba na malakas sa gas ang APV?

If you have a brand new APV.. then the answer is yes... after your 2nd to 3rd change oil.. the engine should be broken in by that time and seals and gaps should be more easy for the engine to move.. when I got the APV i was running 6 to 8 kilometers/liter.. but now im playing around 10 to 11 on mixed city and highway driving.. average of the APV members play around 9 to 10 kms/li on city driving.. except AT transmissions.. around 7 to 9 kms/li

4. Sino po dito sa inyo ang masasabing "pinag sisisihan ninyo ang pag bili ninyo ng APV? Yung tipong .. sana ang binili ko ay ibang sasakyan na lang.

didnt cross my mind. but i would sure like a electric/hybrid car for a daily drive home-work-home etc... just being more specific...

5. Sa inyong personal na opinion. Worth it ba ipagpalit ko ang luma ko na 2003 Isuzu Crosswinds sa Suzuki APV 2. Masasabi ba ito na downgrade sa status ng ride?

even im a APV owner.. i can "personally" say that it depends on what you need. if you need space up to the third row? then I'll go with the APV.. I have big friends that always ride with me on long trips and they are very comfy in the last row seats.. which is one of the purpose of having a midsized- to large vehicle..

durability? i believe that all isuzu parts are very durable.. as compared from an APV.. but durability as well comes with a price din naman.. but definitely very durable piece of machinery.

olidotcom

Salamat sa reply very helpfull.... plus points for APV sa akin.

To be honest, first choice ko talaga APV on top of innova at tucson. Ewan ko pero gandang ganda talaga ako sa APV lalo na yung taas at maluwag.. para sa akin UNBEATABLE talaga pag dating sa taas at luwag.

But again concern ko nga yung durability.

My first car was a 1.6 Nissan Sentra (1993) then Isuzu Corsswinds (2003) so ngayon 2012 - 2013 balak ko na magpalit.
Sa dalawa na nging ride ko talgang hindi ako naga problema.... sanay ako na after 7 or 8 years pa lang nasisira ang sasakyan tapos minor lang... then kung masira sanay ako na madaling makabili ng piyesa sa kung saan saan na auto parts supplier (banaue / cubao).

So yun ang tipo na vehicle hinahanap ko na ipalit... If ever kasi wala pa 5 years may major parts na ako papalitan... sasama ang loob ko nun.

Hope meron pa mag post... para makatulong.

[MAXBUWAYA]

Current ride ko po is Isuzu 2003 Crosswinds XUV. Very very very satisfied po ako sa durability / performance / FC.

Balak ko na po palitan yung ride ko kasi 1 year na lang hindi na po tatangapin ng Insurance Company. Important po sa akin ang Insurance sa sasakyan.

Kahit masaya po ako sa current make ng ride ko, ayaw ko po kumuha ng 2012 Isuzu Crosswinds Sportivo bilang kaplait. Harang na harang po kasi ang price nila sa 2012 Isuzu Crosswinds Sportivo. Over Over Over Overpriced !!!

Ang mga option ko po ay:

1. 2012 Toyota Innova 2.5G MT
2. 2011 Hyundai Tucson Theta II Engine MT
3. APV Type 2 MT or AT

Tanong lang po.

1. Sa mga nababasa ko po sa different forums parang madali masira ang APV. Like Radiator Fan / Auxiliary Fan / Dashboard Clock etc.
Sa mga may ari po dito ng APV Type 1 at Type 2 puwede po ba sabihin ninyo kung ano ano na ang nasira sa sasakyan ninyo at kung gaano kabilis ito nasira mula sa time na binili ninyo (Example: Replaced Radiator Fan - 4 Months from purchase).

Type does not have dash clock anymore.
dual speed fan ang APV means iisa na lang main fan at aux fan. Yes ive read na may mga nasiraan na (10k iyan). I myself experience a whining sound on the fan. But manage to fix it by myself by tightehing the bolt on the fan. On the side, ive also heard vios dual speed fan gets busted prematurely. 3 years two years,
As of now 2008 type 2 GLX model, wala panaman extraordinary na nasisira

2. Sa mga nabasa ko din po. Mukang pahirapan ang parts. Baka pwede po ninyo i share yung waiting time ninyo sa parts na kinailangan palitan (Example: Radiator Fan - 3 Months Waiting Time Casa - No Parts Outside Casa).

Sa brakes; sa sulit meron Rspec tatak. Pads and shoes. Sa timing belt ive heard they use sa civic. (Belt only) sa oil and air filter may replacement. Sa suspension ive never heard any existing replacement. Equivalent baka meron. Mga cosmetic parts like headlights etc. am not sure, pero mukhang meron naman. OEM nga lang.

3. Meron ako napagtanungan sa parking lot last week nung nag park ako. APV Type 1 dala niya. Ang tanong ko ... Boss ano reklamo mo sa APV kung meron. Unang sagot niya sa akin "malakas kumain ng gas". Talaga ba na malakas sa gas ang APV?

i consume 8km per liter. secondary road use hardly ever get to the 5th gear

4. Sino po dito sa inyo ang masasabing "pinag sisisihan ninyo ang pag bili ninyo ng APV? Yung tipong .. sana ang binili ko ay ibang sasakyan na lang.

Never naman kaming nagsisi, back 2008 binibigyan pa kami ng good deal with a G diesel innova (Facelift padating na kasi). APVs third row space and second row is a huge difference compared sa mga ka class nya

5. Sa inyong personal na opinion. Worth it ba ipagpalit ko ang luma ko na 2003 Isuzu Crosswinds sa Suzuki APV 2. Masasabi ba ito na downgrade sa status ng ride?

sa akin kasi a newer car is always better since im the type of guy na more on engine lang focus ng maintenence, but if i still have our 2003 crv, at this time i woudnt mind selling it for the APV

Sana po meron mag share. Salamat po sa inyo in advance.

[MAXBUWAYA]

RE: insurance pag 10years alam ko d na talaga puede, execpt loyal ka sa kanila, like yearly sa kanila ka nagrerenew.

[MAXBUWAYA]

Current ride ko po is Isuzu 2003 Crosswinds XUV. Very very very satisfied po ako sa durability / performance / FC.

Balak ko na po palitan yung ride ko kasi 1 year na lang hindi na po tatangapin ng Insurance Company. Important po sa akin ang Insurance sa sasakyan.

Kahit masaya po ako sa current make ng ride ko, ayaw ko po kumuha ng 2012 Isuzu Crosswinds Sportivo bilang kaplait. Harang na harang po kasi ang price nila sa 2012 Isuzu Crosswinds Sportivo. Over Over Over Overpriced !!!

Ang mga option ko po ay:

1. 2012 Toyota Innova 2.5G MT
2. 2011 Hyundai Tucson Theta II Engine MT
3. APV Type 2 MT or AT

Tanong lang po.

1. Sa mga nababasa ko po sa different forums parang madali masira ang APV. Like Radiator Fan / Auxiliary Fan / Dashboard Clock etc.
Sa mga may ari po dito ng APV Type 1 at Type 2 puwede po ba sabihin ninyo kung ano ano na ang nasira sa sasakyan ninyo at kung gaano kabilis ito nasira mula sa time na binili ninyo (Example: Replaced Radiator Fan - 4 Months from purchase).

Type 2 does not have dash clock anymore.
dual speed fan ang APV means iisa na lang main fan at aux fan. Yes ive read na may mga nasiraan na (10k iyan!). I myself experience a whining sound on the fan. But manage to fix it by myself by tightehing the bolt on the fan. On the side, ive also heard vios dual speed fan gets busted prematurely. 3 years two years,
As of now 2008 type 2 GLX model at 50k km , wala panaman extraordinary na nasisira

2. Sa mga nabasa ko din po. Mukang pahirapan ang parts. Baka pwede po ninyo i share yung waiting time ninyo sa parts na kinailangan palitan (Example: Radiator Fan - 3 Months Waiting Time Casa - No Parts Outside Casa).

Sa brakes; sa sulit meron Rspec tatak. Pads and shoes. Sa timing belt ive heard they use sa civic. (Belt only) sa oil and air filter may replacement. Sa suspension ive never heard any existing replacement. Equivalent baka meron. Mga cosmetic parts like headlights etc. am not sure, pero mukhang meron naman. OEM nga lang. extra ordinary parts like crankshaft pulley, ignition coil, radiator, aircon parts wala akong info kung meron o wala

3. Meron ako napagtanungan sa parking lot last week nung nag park ako. APV Type 1 dala niya. Ang tanong ko ... Boss ano reklamo mo sa APV kung meron. Unang sagot niya sa akin "malakas kumain ng gas". Talaga ba na malakas sa gas ang APV?

i consumes 8km per liter. secondary road use, hardly ever get to the 5th gear

4. Sino po dito sa inyo ang masasabing "pinag sisisihan ninyo ang pag bili ninyo ng APV? Yung tipong .. sana ang binili ko ay ibang sasakyan na lang.

Never naman kaming nagsisi, back 2008 binibigyan pa kami ng good deal with a G diesel innova (Facelift padating na kasi). APVs third row space and second row is a huge difference compared sa mga ka class nya,

5. Sa inyong personal na opinion. Worth it ba ipagpalit ko ang luma ko na 2003 Isuzu Crosswinds sa Suzuki APV 2. Masasabi ba ito na downgrade sa status ng ride?

sa akin kasi a newer car is always better since im the type of guy na more on engine lang focus ng maintenence, but if i still have our 2003 crv at this time, i woudnt mind selling it for the APV

Sana po meron mag share. Salamat po sa inyo in advance.


Try mo din isearch mga post ni Macky dito, he owns early version of the APV and so far siya yung may pinakadokumentadong maintence history

[aimphilippines]

MAXBUWAYA:

Maraming Salamat sa feedback!!! Very much appreciated!!!

Sa mga feedback so far... nahahatak ulit ako kumuha ng APV Type 2 MT... yung Black... Ganda Ganda ng kulay :-)

Pinaka gusto ko sa APV talaga is yung taas ng upuan ng driver tapos kitang kita mo talaga yung buong harapan mo at mga gilid... hindi mahirap mag drive kasi WIDE VIEW ka sa lahat ng angles... Halos same ng current XUV ko.

Nasubukan ko na mag drive ng Toytota Fortuner ... hindi ko masyado makita ang buong harapan nahirapan ako mag tancha (I am 5'8 height). Also, kapag nag drive ako ng mga sedan... hirap na ako... nasanay na kasi ako sa view ng Crosswinds.

BTW, yung 2012 Toyota Avanza... out na sa akin yun coz i will be giving my daughter that unit for her daily drive when she goes to college this June. I am just awaiting Bank Approval for the unit.

Yung sa Hyundai Tucson... out na rin sa akin... pangit ang feedback both online and offline sa mga napag tanong tanungan ko... Mukang sasakit lang ulo ko sa unit na iyon at hindi daw maganda after sales service.

So, I am now contemplating of getting this ride all for my self, wife and my 15 dogs (Toy Poodles) :-)

More Feedback pa po...Hopefully more on the parts na madali masira and availability. OK na ako sa 8 KM/L... all I need to be convinced now is just durability / parts availability / price of parts weather OEM or Replacement.

[OTEP]

Yung engine ng APV is the almost the same one used in the Vitara. Madami na siya parts when it comes to consumables and common repair parts. And if you bring the problematic part as your sample (e.g. water pump) it will usually have an equivalent replacement part. Kadalasan pang-Mitsubishi.

I also have a mechanic that works in Pilhino (Suzuki casa). And they moonlight off hours to do home service (e.g. to me since I do not have time during office hours to bring my car to the service place). Memorized na niya ang makina mo. The engine itself is not terribly difficult to work on basta alam ng gumagawa ang ginagawa niya.

[olidotcom]

* Doc Otep... regarding your buddy that works with PhilHino... can I ask for assistance as well? I need some tappet adjustments for my APV Type 1, and maybe to have the belts checked na rin for pre-maintenance.

Thank you!

[kittyboy]

good day po sa inyong lahat,newbie here..ang ganda at napaka informative po ng forum na ito about suzuki apv! lalo na sa mga taong nais bumili ng suzuki apv.lalo po ako na excite na bumili ng suzuki apv lalo na may grupo na pwedeng hingan mo ng information about sa unit at mga parts nito.sana ma approve nako nextweek para mailabas kna ung APV! GA MT nga po pla ung inapply ko,yun lng kasi kaya ng budget at ung promo!wishing to meet all you guys sa Team APV at club suzuki! more power!

[olidotcom]

good day po sa inyong lahat,newbie here..ang ganda at napaka informative po ng forum na ito about suzuki apv! lalo na sa mga taong nais bumili ng suzuki apv.lalo po ako na excite na bumili ng suzuki apv lalo na may grupo na pwedeng hingan mo ng information about sa unit at mga parts nito.sana ma approve nako nextweek para mailabas kna ung APV! GA MT nga po pla ung inapply ko,yun lng kasi kaya ng budget at ung promo!wishing to meet all you guys sa Team APV at club suzuki! more power!

welcome kittyboy.

[thebat]

APV 1st gen - saan yung engine motor number?

[olidotcom]

APV 1st gen - saan yung engine motor number?

located in the engine block.. near the transmission. you need to go under the vehicle though...

[MoonbeamTURBO]

Hi! Pinalitan ko yung rear tires ko last month dahil yung rear left ko damaged beyond repair (poor Manila roads ). Last month medyo limited yung budget so yung binili ko na gulong medyo mura lang na type. Yun din yung nirecommend ng shop na binilhan ko. I had no idea about speed ratings before, ngayon ko lang nalaman yun.

Stock Tires: Bridgestone Techno 248 185/80R14 91S -- Recommended load at door jamb, recommended speed rating (180 km/h)
Replacement Tires: Kumho Radial 857 185R14C 108Q -- Higher load index, lower speed rating (160 km/h)

So if mas mababa yung speed rating ng bago ko na gulong (balak ko na din palitan yung harap ko next month ng Kumho since shallow na yung thread depth niya), hindi ba delekado yun? Consider natin yung driving ko, city driving lang. Wala naman ako balak ipatakbo ng 160 km/h yung kotse at ang top speed yata ng auto transmission na APV Type II is less than 150 km/h based sa mga reviews. Pero pag sa highway constant speed na 100 km/h ang takbo. How about yung handling at highway speeds? Wala naman masyado problema sa braking ngayon napansin ko pero hindi ko pa pinapatakbo APV ko sa expressway since tire change. Dagdag na din natin yung load index, dati 91 ngayon 108.

Other observations after tire change: Less road noise, better ride
Fuel consumption is still the same. Acceleration was a bit slow during the first few weeks but now okay na din.

Thanks!

[olidotcom]

right.. better be safe than sorry i would say... better change those thin worn tires sir.

as far as i know regarding the tire specs that you have (kumho) ok na din yung replacement since you are still within speed limits and better load handling of the tires.

i recently changed my steelies to 17s with westlake tires 50 series and got the same but more "quiet" ride.. big reduction din on that "umuuga" pag naka park then a big truck or van passes you by and makes your whole vehicle move because of the wind.

[MoonbeamTURBO]

Thanks sir! Nagbabasa ako lately sa web about tires hehe, dami ko natututunan.

Yung APV din ng mom ko ipapalit ko na din yung gulong kahit hindi pa mauubos. Medyo natakot ako sa date ng tire dahil nakalagay "1807" which means gulong niya ginawa 18th week of 2007. Considered old na yun since kahit 6 years ang lifespan ng tires, dito sa atin 3-4 years lang kasi sa condition.

Regarding tire pressure, since nag increase ako ng load rating, kailangan din ba itaas ang tire pressure? Tapos what is the difference of laden and unladen tire pressures?

[OTEP]

Laden pressure is the tp when the unit is fully loaded. Unladen tp is used when the vehicle is not filled to capacity.

[MoonbeamTURBO]

Laden pressure is the tp when the unit is fully loaded. Unladen tp is used when the vehicle is not filled to capacity.

Thanks sir! I changed the tire pressure to 32 front and 40 rear with aftermarket tires (Recommended for stock tires: 29 F/35 R unladen, 32 F/44 R laden). So far I'm experiencing better gas mileage.

May problem naman ngayon yung keyhole ng APV ko sa doors (front driver, front passenger, rear tailgate). Pumapasok yung keys pero ayaw umikot so sa remote lang ako ngayon lagi. Last week ayos pa eh. I'll try to bring my car to Suzuki hopefully next week if I have time. Mukhang actuator ang sira or yung power door lock mechanism.

[Zipspeed]

Need to replace our tires ( Original pa since 2005) since manipis na. We tried using 17s dati but it was too heavy and matagtag...went back to original to avoid damaging suspension. Now we are thinking of replacing again the rims to at least 15s and para naman may konting porma. Any recommendation what brand of tires we can use and where we can get a good deal on Magwheels. Most of the time city driving lang (coming from Skyway) and at least once a year of out of town.

[olidotcom]

you can try ROTA or.. if you prefer a softer ride.. try those original mags from importers from japan... (second hand)

I was told that those mags are quite softer so it will be a better ride for your van.

im on 17s right now.. PDW mags with westlate 50 series 215 tires.. definitely a softer and more quiet ride compared from my old steel rims.

[rev1925]

hello all

ano ano po ba ang model ng apv? at ano ang pinaka latest sa pinas.. pati na rin san ginawa pls lang po

[Zipspeed]

you can try ROTA or.. if you prefer a softer ride.. try those original mags from importers from japan... (second hand)

I was told that those mags are quite softer so it will be a better ride for your van.

im on 17s right now.. PDW mags with westlate 50 series 215 tires.. definitely a softer and more quiet ride compared from my old steel rims.

Thanks olidotcom, I might go for ROTA. Brand new na since I do not know how to test if ok pa ang second hand. What about the tire brand? Not sure between bridgestone and goodyear tires....