lowering springs or "putol"

**nhel0719** · June 30th, 2014 03:44 PM

good day mga bossing,first timer po ko mag post at newbie po ko about cars so mostly puro questions lang ang kaya kong i post..may mga tanong po ko na curious ako malaman ang sagot.i have an old car atm corolla 96 nabili ko sya 2nd hand and its been with me for 5 years alreadyat recently naisip kong baguhin n totally ang look ni max [ name ng car ko =) )start ko sana by lowering it...i skimmed the pages of this topic kaya malamang nasagot na question ko...tanong ko lang kung magkano ang cheapest coilover sa market ngayon at kung nabibilli ba siya as a set or hiwalay ang spring sa shock etc etc...also kung coil over ang ikakabit may babaguhin ba na piyesa sa kotse or isasalpak lng sya tpos na?also feasible ba yung combination na coilovers sa front at normal lowering springs sa ack end ng kotse..also is it true n ok lang na gumamit ng stock shocks khit nakalowering spring ang kotse nagpalit kasi ko 2 months ago ng stock shock and spring sa buong apat na gulong..pasensya na sa dami ng tanong ha...marami pa nga ko tanong since gusto ko matuto papogihin ang kotse ko pero basahin mo muna ung mga ibang topics

..salamat mga bossing..

BTW nung nagpalit ako ng suspension assembly ko dun ko lang nalaman n putol pala ung coil spring nung kotse.akala ko normal ride hieght lang sya

take note 5 years ko na dala yung kotse jeez

**saksidriver** · July 1st, 2014 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by aloofkid

Sir, na aadjust din po ba yung bounciness nung spring ng coil over?

Kailangan ko kasi mag palit ng lowering spring kasi natigas daw yung spring nung nabiki nung dad ko dun sa auto ko eh. Need ko nga daw po mag palit ng ball joint dahil sa tagtag nung spring etc.

Thanks

Yup na aadjust depende kung anong gamit mong coilover. Factor din sa tagtag yan rims mo. Naka low profile ka pa na gulong. Pero kung natatagtagan ka na talaga sa coilover. Mag lowering springs ka na nga.

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**saksidriver** · July 1st, 2014 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by nhel0719

good day mga bossing,first timer po ko mag post at newbie po ko about cars so mostly puro questions lang ang kaya kong i post..may mga tanong po ko na curious ako malaman ang sagot.i have an old car atm corolla 96 nabili ko sya 2nd hand and its been with me for 5 years alreadyat recently naisip kong baguhin n totally ang look ni max [ name ng car ko =) )start ko sana by lowering it...i skimmed the pages of this topic kaya malamang nasagot na question ko...tanong ko lang kung magkano ang cheapest coilover sa market ngayon at kung nabibilli ba siya as a set or hiwalay ang spring sa shock etc etc...also kung coil over ang ikakabit may babaguhin ba na piyesa sa kotse or isasalpak lng sya tpos na?also feasible ba yung combination na coilovers sa front at normal lowering springs sa ack end ng kotse..also is it true n ok lang na gumamit ng stock shocks khit nakalowering spring ang kotse nagpalit kasi ko 2 months ago ng stock shock and spring sa buong apat na gulong..pasensya na sa dami ng tanong ha...marami pa nga ko tanong since gusto ko matuto papogihin ang kotse ko pero basahin mo muna ung mga ibang topics

..salamat mga bossing..

BTW nung nagpalit ako ng suspension assembly ko dun ko lang nalaman n putol pala ung coil spring nung kotse.akala ko normal ride hieght lang sya

take note 5 years ko na dala yung kotse jeez

Cheapest would be 30-35k brandnew. BC, dynamics, yellowspeed coilovers.

Expect more damage to the pocket if premium brands like TEIN, Cusco. Maybe 60-80k brandnew.

Set palagi yan pag bumili ka ng brandnew. Isasalpak na lang. No modifications needed.

Pwede naman coilover sa front,lowering springs sa rear. Or vice versa. But then, set mo na nga mabibili yung coilover so bat pag iibahin mo pa.
If you're not into motorsports pa naman, maybe you can opt to use lowering springs na muna. Much cheaper. Kung bagong palit lang shock absorber mo, yup pwede pa yan i pair sa lowering springs na mabibili mo basta wala pang leak.

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**saksidriver** · July 1st, 2014 01:29 AM

^ lowering springs for the model that you mentioned. Would be around 7-14k brandnew. Maxspeed lowering springs 6-7k. Premium brands like TEIN, eibach , h&r siguro nasa 12-14k. Or you can look for second hand, but be sure na alam mo hinahanap mo. Marami nagbebenta ng mga pekeng lowering springs ngayon. Kala mo totoong lowering springs yun pala stock springs lang na ininit then kinompressed para magmukhang mababa. Mas worst pa sa putol springs yun coz they can break anytime while your driving.

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**nhel0719** · July 1st, 2014 02:20 PM

thanks sa reply saksidriver...
good to know pwede pa yung stock shocks na pinakabit ko.yung price range na mention mo ay close enough sa price range ng garage one.i was checking out there facebook account
yung price ba na yan including what you mentioned included ba yung shocks or is it springs only?as for buying a 2nd hand spring well hindi ako marunong tumingin kung orig ba yung springs o hindi so much better siguro kung sa new na lang ako to be on the safe side..i was also curious about handling,may considerable effect ba sa overall handling ng kotse kung nakalower sya or is it minimal to none.

side note off topic : hindi ako makareply sa thread using my tab it says its denied coz of multiple url issue.thats why im using a desk top =(..can someone point me as to who to talk to about it.

tnx mga boss

**saksidriver** · July 1st, 2014 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by nhel0719

thanks sa reply saksidriver...
good to know pwede pa yung stock shocks na pinakabit ko.yung price range na mention mo ay close enough sa price range ng garage one.i was checking out there facebook account
yung price ba na yan including what you mentioned included ba yung shocks or is it springs only?as for buying a 2nd hand spring well hindi ako marunong tumingin kung orig ba yung springs o hindi so much better siguro kung sa new na lang ako to be on the safe side..i was also curious about handling,may considerable effect ba sa overall handling ng kotse kung nakalower sya or is it minimal to none.

side note off topic : hindi ako makareply sa thread using my tab it says its denied coz of multiple url issue.thats why im using a desk top =(..can someone point me as to who to talk to about it.

tnx mga boss

yung price ive mentioned lowering springs pa lang yun. hindi pa kasama shock absorbers. ok na gamitin kapag naka lowering springs ka is kyb excel-g. price range siguro nasa 2.3-2.6k each. sulit yan in the long run. but if you're in a budget pwede ka gumamit ng zeon, fast 1 shocks. kaso don't expect too much kung tatagal, more cautious na lang sa driving style.

yup very noticeable ang improvement sa handling kapag nag lower ka. lalo na sa mga corners. ang sarap ikurbada ika nga. downside is palagi ka sasabit sa mga matataas na humps. pero mag iiba talaga stance ng oto mo. maganda tingnan kahit na naka stock rims ka.

and if you want to further improve the handling, you might want to add strut tower bar. madami surplus niyan para sa corolla, price between 2-2.5k .standard kasi yan sa corolla sa japan, sa atin mga labas ng corolla walang ganon.

**innova2013** · July 1st, 2014 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by marion2

Yung mga coilover tulad ng Tein, BC, Maxspeed, D2, Megan Racing, etc. bale pwede ko galawin yung settings nila yun ba yung tinatawag na "dampere setting" para maset ko kung paano ang magiging laro nila pag daily driven at minsan track?

hindi po yung damper settings o yung adjustable damping feature ng coilover ang nag dedetermine kung pang araw-araw o pang race siya. yung spring rates ang nag didictate nito. kapag bibili ka ng coilover, tatanungin ka nung nag bebenta kung anong spring rate ang need mo para sa front at para sa rear.

kadalasan in kg/mm ang unit of measurement ng stiffness nito. sa totoo lang, nasa tao/driver lang yung feeling na "matagtag", sa iba matatag pero sa iba naman hindi. kumbaga, nasa preference mo yan paps.

pinaka the best na gawin, test drive ka ng same model ng sasakyan mo na naka coilover suspension.

kung pang daily, the best pa din ang gas shocks plus lowering spring combo.

**nhel0719** · July 1st, 2014 11:37 PM

good to know na may difference.i will save yung mga suggestions and te other stuff ive been reading sa notes ko since it would be a great help for me soon when i go canvassing for the parts after my cars repaint is doneas for the struts meron na ako but i havent installed it yet..bought it from a guy in sulit then..

tnx saksi driver for the reply again

* innova2013 i read about that combo pero i think 1 guy here mentioned that gas in front and fluid in the back would be a great combo..or vice versa????not sure,regardless magiging masaya nko kung makita kong nakalower ang ride ko

**innova2013** · July 2nd, 2014 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by nhel0719

good to know na may difference.i will save yung mga suggestions and te other stuff ive been reading sa notes ko since it would be a great help for me soon when i go canvassing for the parts after my cars repaint is doneas for the struts meron na ako but i havent installed it yet..bought it from a guy in sulit then..

tnx saksi driver for the reply again

* innova2013 i read about that combo pero i think 1 guy here mentioned that gas in front and fluid in the back would be a great combo..or vice versa????not sure,regardless magiging masaya nko kung makita kong nakalower ang ride ko

mas madaling bumagsak/masira ang fluid shocks kapag naka lowering spring. pwede ang fluid shocks plus lowering sa likod kung bihira o maximum sa isang tao lang ang sasakay, mas mahina kasi load capacity nito compared sa gas shocks tska mas durable ang gas shocks compared sa fluid type.

trade secret dyan para tumagal ang buhay ng shocks sa lowered ride ay bumpstops. minimum of 0.5" - maximum naman of 1". kahit stock height dapat may bumpstops pa din.