2014 Subaru Forester

[supermanila]

yeah iv read that on the day it was posted, kaya mas na-excite ako makuha na yung XT ko, pero di pala ganun katipid hehe if you've backread, iv said that you can achieve this only through SLEX, NLEX, SCTEX where you can go 100kph constantly for 1hour or so, much better if you use the cruise control. BUT, when we go to our destination, hindi lang naman palaging expressway e, you have to go in and out of cities where you intend to go, you use city streets, you use national hiway, me bus titigil para magbaba ng pasahero and u have to slow down. so in REAL world mostly hiway driving, i dont think you can achieve 13km/L, this is coming from an XT owner. and i don't mash the accelerator or spool the turbo that much, yung tamang pang overtake lang pag kelangan.

for reference, my previous car is a 2.0 2006 civic paddleshift, already had 105,000kms on it. driving the same route i take, quezon-manila-quezon, usually mga 280kms yung total sa isang trip, i do about 9to10km/L with mashing the throttle. pag city driving within quezon, mga 6.5to7.5km/L. on the XT using the same route, mga 6to6.5km/L hiway, sa city 5to5.5km/L

Ulysses mentioned that he can easily do 10km/l on the highway with his old forester xt 2.5 and that the 2014 model has better fuel economy than the outgoing one. However it seems it's hard to achieve this din, and based on your personal experience sir, it looks like it is worse pa. I believe you are using Petron Blaze or XCS as much as possible right?

[cfule]

Ulysses mentioned that he can easily do 10km/l on the highway with his old forester xt 2.5 and that the 2014 model has better fuel economy than the outgoing one. However it seems it's hard to achieve this din, and based on your personal experience sir, it looks like it is worse pa. I believe you are using Petron Blaze or XCS as much as possible right?

yup, i only loaded blaze on intial fill up, 54 liters, after that, XCS na lahat. the XT require 95ron minimum, otherwise it might knock the engine.

is the shell v-power nittro 95ron? is it also blended with ethanol?

[Vince Tagle]

Ulysses mentioned that he can easily do 10km/l on the highway with his old forester xt 2.5 and that the 2014 model has better fuel economy than the outgoing one. However it seems it's hard to achieve this din, and based on your personal experience sir, it looks like it is worse pa. I believe you are using Petron Blaze or XCS as much as possible right?

Isn't it that Uly on has an N/A? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm doing better FC than my 08WRX which has the same engine as the FXT.

[asag]

Isn't it that Uly on has an N/A? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm doing better FC than my 08WRX which has the same engine as the FXT.

Local 08 WRX 2.5l
2014 FXT 2.0l
They do not have the same engine displacement. The new FXT is a 2.0 with DI and a CVT thus the better FC.

[koji kabuto]

yeah iv read that on the day it was posted, kaya mas na-excite ako makuha na yung XT ko, pero di pala ganun katipid hehe if you've backread, iv said that you can achieve this only through SLEX, NLEX, SCTEX where you can go 100kph constantly for 1hour or so, much better if you use the cruise control. BUT, when we go to our destination, hindi lang naman palaging expressway e, you have to go in and out of cities where you intend to go, you use city streets, you use national hiway, me bus titigil para magbaba ng pasahero and u have to slow down. so in REAL world mostly hiway driving, i dont think you can achieve 13km/L, this is coming from an XT owner. and i don't mash the accelerator or spool the turbo that much, yung tamang pang overtake lang pag kelangan.
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Yes, i have read your previous posts and i also do the same computation for my FC on our cars. (Full tank until auto stop, use the vehicle then full up again until auto stop). I am interested in the forester kaya i always read this thread. My usual route is 90% SLEX, so i guess pwede na din siguro sya consider. Ipon mode muna. Please keep us posted on your FC pag more than 5,000kms na tinakbo

[NeilJohn]

Saw this Subaru Forester review from Manila Bulletin by Iñigo Roces.

"The factory fresh cars clocked up an impressive 1,200 kilometers by the trip’s end, all done with just two full tanks. Naturally, the XT consumed a tad more fuel with an average of around 8.5 km/L against the 2.0i’s 9.5 km/L. Both are a big improvement from the predecessors’ 6 and 7 km/L respectively." - A better estimate of real world consumption in mix city and motorway use!

[supermanila]

yup, i only loaded blaze on intial fill up, 54 liters, after that, XCS na lahat. the XT require 95ron minimum, otherwise it might knock the engine.

is the shell v-power nittro 95ron? is it also blended with ethanol?

I'm not really sure sir but I think v-power is not ethanol free. From my understanding only Blaze is ethanol free.

[falken]

yup, i only loaded blaze on intial fill up, 54 liters, after that, XCS na lahat. the XT require 95ron minimum, otherwise it might knock the engine.

is the shell v-power nittro 95ron? is it also blended with ethanol?

AFAIK, Shell v power nitro has ethanol.

[cfule]

Saw this Subaru Forester review from Manila Bulletin by Iñigo Roces.

"The factory fresh cars clocked up an impressive 1,200 kilometers by the trip’s end, all done with just two full tanks. Naturally, the XT consumed a tad more fuel with an average of around 8.5 km/L against the 2.0i’s 9.5 km/L. Both are a big improvement from the predecessors’ 6 and 7 km/L respectively." - A better estimate of real world consumption in mix city and motorway use!

now that's more inline of what im getting, coz going to sagada is more hiway driving, i think 8.5km/L is achievable via trip computer, i was able to get 8.77km/L for 153kms on my first full tank, very light foot no overtaking

[8BRZWRX]

Sir MI didn't provide an owner's manual when you purchased the car? Lahat ba ng units wala?

Sad to say, I agree with you, we just can't look at manufacturer fuel consumption estimates since they're mostly based in foreign countries where conditions are better. I read from some thread here as well that our fuel with bioethanol actually makes fuel consumption worse.

I heard it will arrive by next week. I ended up downloading the owner's manual PDF (divided into multiple files) from the Subaru USA site.

BTW do not click on the "Memory" switch for the rear trunk door. It will not fully open/close the trunk. The PDF manual has a piss poor translation of what that feature does. Japanese Engrish... >_<

The published fuel economy is based on a US govt study mandated by law. Same with the safety ratings.

Anyhow if you can afford a performance car like a Subaru then fuel consumption isnt on the top of your list. lol

AFAIK Petron Blaze is ethanol-free. For the first few weeks of ownership the XT was being fueled up with 100 RON fuel. Since getting the PDF I've been loading it with P1000 XCS + P1,500 Blaze to get 98+ RON as recommended. Minimum RON requirement is 95 but at reduced performance.

Next question....

Is there a switch to improve the ride quality of the XT? I drove from Los Banos to Muntinlupa and I felt like I went through a rolling pin.

Fuel economy improved to 12.6L/100KM though I let the car idle/parked about 10min with full AC and got about 42L/km.

[LoBudget]

BTW do not click on the "Memory" switch for the rear trunk door. It will not fully open/close the trunk. The PDF manual has a piss poor translation of what that feature does. Japanese Engrish...

How does that work? On other vehicles you lower the door to the desired height then press memory and it will only open to that level all the time... probably for shorter people or PWD.

I thought 95 RON will work, anything lower will give reduced performance? Recommendation is 95 RON or higher, right?... then again you can never tell here in the PH if what you are getting is really at the claimed level. Wala bang on the spot RON test para mahuli yung mga kunwaring 93, 95 and 100 RON? Like a customer can just ask for that test to be run whenever they want along with a test to see if the 1 liter is really 1 liter?

[supermanila]

I heard it will arrive by next week. I ended up downloading the owner's manual PDF (divided into multiple files) from the Subaru USA site.

BTW do not click on the "Memory" switch for the rear trunk door. It will not fully open/close the trunk. The PDF manual has a piss poor translation of what that feature does. Japanese Engrish... >_<

The published fuel economy is based on a US govt study mandated by law. Same with the safety ratings.

Anyhow if you can afford a performance car like a Subaru then fuel consumption isnt on the top of your list. lol

AFAIK Petron Blaze is ethanol-free. For the first few weeks of ownership the XT was being fueled up with 100 RON fuel. Since getting the PDF I've been loading it with P1000 XCS + P1,500 Blaze to get 98+ RON as recommended. Minimum RON requirement is 95 but at reduced performance.

Next question....

Is there a switch to improve the ride quality of the XT? I drove from Los Banos to Muntinlupa and I felt like I went through a rolling pin.

Fuel economy improved to 12.6L/100KM though I let the car idle/parked about 10min with full AC and got about 42L/km.

I see thanks sir.

I believe the "Memory" switch is to set the desired height for the tailgate. That's what I have read from reviews and what the agent told me as well. What happened when you pressed the button sir?

I didn't know you can mix and match fuel to get the desired rating. Is that how it is? Just mix Blaze with XCS and you get 98RON?

I have read a lot of complaints actually on the seats of the new Forester. They're saying the seat is quite short, and doesn't support the thighs very well. They also said the lumbar support is very aggressive which can cause lower back pain to others. When I test drove the car, didn't really felt uncomfortable, actually felt fit on the seat. But have read numerous complaints that the seat is bad, both leather and non-leather. If you are driving an XT though, I think the 8-way power seats can help you find the best seating position for a long ride. As for the ride, I guess there's really nothing much you can do about it.

Also read somewhere that the computer caps at around 50L/km, so if you leave it idle for a while, it will only go as high as 50L/km only.

Question on the FC sir, what you see on the computer is the total average for your whole trip? Or is it the current average that you are doing? I mean leaving the car idle for 10 mins and you get 42L/km immediately seems to indicate that it is just showing you current and not the whole trip average. Thanks.

[supermanila]

How does that work? On other vehicles you lower the door to the desired height then press memory and it will only open to that level all the time... probably for shorter people or PWD.

I thought 95 RON will work, anything lower will give reduced performance? Recommendation is 95 RON or higher, right?... then again you can never tell here in the PH if what you are getting is really at the claimed level. Wala bang on the spot RON test para mahuli yung mga kunwaring 93, 95 and 100 RON? Like a customer can just ask for that test to be run whenever they want along with a test to see if the 1 liter is really 1 liter?

Yes sir 95 RON (91AKI) will work, but with a slight reduction in performance. Recommendation is 93AKI or 98RON. You can also use 91/93 RON, which won't break your engine, but will result in less performance, less fuel economy, and might have some engine knocking and vibration. Here is what's indicated in the manual.

Fuel requirements
Non-turbo models
The engine is designed to operate using unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 87 AKI (90 RON) or higher.

Turbo models
The engine is designed to operate at maximum performance using unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 93 AKI (98 RON) or higher. If 93 AKI (98 RON) fuel is not readily available, unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 AKI (95 RON) or higher may be used with no detriment to engine durability or driveability. However, you may notice a slight decrease in maximum engine performance while using 91 AKI (95 RON) fuel. Regular unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 87 AKI (90 RON) or higher may also be used. Using regular unleaded gasoline will not be detrimental to engine durability, nor will it affect your warranty coverage. However, depending on your driving habits and conditions, you may notice a decrease in maximum engine performance, fuel economy or slight engine vibration or knocking. If you experience any of these conditions while using a lower octane rated fuel, you may want to return to using 91 AKI (95 RON) octane rated fuel as soon as possible. Additionally, if your vehicle knocks heavily or persistently, or if you are driving with heavy loads such as when towing a trailer, the use of 91 AKI (95 RON) or higher grade unleaded gasoline is required.

[Flip]

I call up subaru greenhills about there insurance sabi niya wala daw sa kanila in house insurance , that you can get any insurance. Any subaru owner bought there insurance in house to get there unit. My bank insurance is 33 k

sir bakit nyo gusto in house? its great news na as per sir cfule and yourself na its not really compulsory na in house insurance. but if you insist, try nyo po MI BGC, i believe meron sila and they swear na mas madali mag claim. yun lang mahal, yung fxs ko 40k quote (30k ko lang nakuha sa iba) while 2014 xt sabi sa akin is 60k nga.

On fuel consumption, i think di malayo makuha 15km/l sa 2.0i pag economy run due to the newer tech at cvt. yung fxs nga nag register ng 7.8l/100km or 12.8km/l sa on board computer (cruise control 90kmh for around 35mins sa NLEX may konting overtake at 110kmh running on halo halo fuel from 93 RON xtra unleaded, 95 XCS and 100 blaze). Also, i think the FB20 is one of those engines na appreciate yung petron blaze, smoother takbo and parang mas matipid din pag walang trapik kesa other type ng gas.

[cfule]

I heard it will arrive by next week. I ended up downloading the owner's manual PDF (divided into multiple files) from the Subaru USA site.

BTW do not click on the "Memory" switch for the rear trunk door. It will not fully open/close the trunk. The PDF manual has a piss poor translation of what that feature does. Japanese Engrish... >_<

The published fuel economy is based on a US govt study mandated by law. Same with the safety ratings.

Anyhow if you can afford a performance car like a Subaru then fuel consumption isnt on the top of your list. lol

AFAIK Petron Blaze is ethanol-free. For the first few weeks of ownership the XT was being fueled up with 100 RON fuel. Since getting the PDF I've been loading it with P1000 XCS + P1,500 Blaze to get 98+ RON as recommended. Minimum RON requirement is 95 but at reduced performance.

Next question....

Is there a switch to improve the ride quality of the XT? I drove from Los Banos to Muntinlupa and I felt like I went through a rolling pin.

Fuel economy improved to 12.6L/100KM though I let the car idle/parked about 10min with full AC and got about 42L/km.

did you not get a manual sir when you got ur XT? ako me manual na nakuha the same day. and yes you are right on saying that the "memory height" is a bitch to make it work, till now, maka 10 times ko na binasa yung manual, di ko pa din mapagana since di ko nga mapagana, if i use it, the door only opens mga 4inches, pretty useless for now. post here sir pag napagana mo na hehe, para gagayahin ko na lang ginawa mo

well sir i was expecting performance and fuel economy i guess i have to cross that last one out hehehe. as for the ride quality, medyo firm nga ang ride, since what we got is the turbo. iv tried deflating the tire a little bit, 32 front, 30 rear, since most of the time wala naman ako sakay sa likod.

[cfule]

Also read somewhere that the computer caps at around 50L/km, so if you leave it idle for a while, it will only go as high as 50L/km only.

Question on the FC sir, what you see on the computer is the total average for your whole trip? Or is it the current average that you are doing? I mean leaving the car idle for 10 mins and you get 42L/km immediately seems to indicate that it is just showing you current and not the whole trip average. Thanks.

for the XT, pwede palabasin yung lifetime FC sa MID (multi information display), you have to fiddle with the menus to get it out, and dun lang yun lalabas sa triple meter (accel, boost, temp). i changed the accel to lifetime FC, since for me boost and temp is more important to see on the triple meter. right now, going 1,500kms, my lifetime FC displays 15L/100kms

[supermanila]

did you not get a manual sir when you got ur XT? ako me manual na nakuha the same day. and yes you are right on saying that the "memory height" is a bitch to make it work, till now, maka 10 times ko na binasa yung manual, di ko pa din mapagana since di ko nga mapagana, if i use it, the door only opens mga 4inches, pretty useless for now. post here sir pag napagana mo na hehe, para gagayahin ko na lang ginawa mo

well sir i was expecting performance and fuel economy i guess i have to cross that last one out hehehe. as for the ride quality, medyo firm nga ang ride, since what we got is the turbo. iv tried deflating the tire a little bit, 32 front, 30 rear, since most of the time wala naman ako sakay sa likod.

Sir if I am not mistaken, the agent told me you have to keep on pressing the button until you reach your desired height. Don't know though since I didn't try it.

[supermanila]

for the XT, pwede palabasin yung lifetime FC sa MID (multi information display), you have to fiddle with the menus to get it out, and dun lang yun lalabas sa triple meter (accel, boost, temp). i changed the accel to lifetime FC, since for me boost and temp is more important to see on the triple meter. right now, going 1,500kms, my lifetime FC displays 15L/100kms

Thanks sir, yeah I downloaded the manual this morning and read about it, too bad 3 lang pwede palabasin at the same time. Sana may option to show 6, or at least 2 pages of 3 info sa triple meter. It would be nice to see elapsed time and distance traveled din kasi while also being able to see the boost guage and temp.

[cfule]

Sir if I am not mistaken, the agent told me you have to keep on pressing the button until you reach your desired height. Don't know though since I didn't try it.

hindi ko pa rin mapagana, read the manual several times, and tried several combo moves not in the manual, still no luck

[cfule]

AFAIK Petron Blaze is ethanol-free. For the first few weeks of ownership the XT was being fueled up with 100 RON fuel. Since getting the PDF I've been loading it with P1000 XCS + P1,500 Blaze to get 98+ RON as recommended. Minimum RON requirement is 95 but at reduced performance.

Sirs, since i live here in the province, parang wala akong nakitang blaze kahit saang petron dito. do you know of any brand and model of gasoline that is ethanol free and at least 95ron? that might be the answer on improving my FC. the stations i see here are petron, shell, caltex, total. iv read from the ethanol forum that ethanol does decrease fuel mileage