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    "As a result, both vaccine mandates were found by the court to be 'unlawful' and to have no effect.

    Weighing in on the groundbreaking decision, Dr Coatsworth, Australia's former deputy chief health officer during the pandemic, said he had to acknowledge his own role in the system promoting vaccine mandates.

    'We didn't get it wrong promoting the vaccines, but the mandates, yes, I think we did get that wrong,' he told The Today Show on Wednesday.

    'And I think you can say hindsight is 20/20. But hindsight gives us foresight. And if we have another pandemic, we should think long and hard whether mandates for vaccines are justified.'

    The infectious disease physician was the face of the vaccine rollout and was a common appearance on Australian televisions during the Covid outbreak.

    Queensland 's Supreme Court this week found that police and ambulance workers in the state were given unlawful directions to get vaccines or face potential disciplinary action

    He was appointed as one of three new deputy chief medical officers under Brendan Murphy at the start of the pandemic in March 2020.

    Dr Coatsworth said Commissioner Carroll 'didn't give any regard to the human rights implications' of the vaccine mandates.

    He said the Supreme Court's decision could mean some of the workers sacked for not following the mandates could potentially get their jobs back.

    'It could open the way for civil proceedings and damages against the governments with human rights acts, which are Queensland, the ACT and Victoria,' he said.

    'But importantly, I think it opens all the decisions that we as senior health officials, as senior police and ambulance officials made.

    'Did we have regard to Australians' human rights when we made those decisions and to what extent did we balance those decisions against human rights?'

    The expert said in the event a pandemic was to occur again, authorities should rely on convincing people to get vaccinated rather than enforcing mandates.

    'I think what we saw in New South Wales and Victoria was that you could get to high levels of vaccine coverage without the mandates, and that was because people were genuinely worried and they were prepared to be informed about these vaccines.

    'That's the way to do it for the future.'"

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    #39122
    i wonder,
    had there been no near-global mass vaccination,
    how many of these critics would be alive today...?

    back then,
    the human race knew next to nothing about covid.
    all they knew, was that people were dying by the wholesale...
    that a vaccine had to be developed fast...
    and when the vaccine became available, initially in trickles,
    people were fighting tooth and nail, to be among the first to be vaxxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    According to the Cambridge Dictionary-

    rhetorical question
    noun [ C ]
    US /rɪˌtɔːr.ɪ.kəl ˈkwes.tʃən/ UK /rɪˌtɒr.ɪ.kəl ˈkwes.tʃən/
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    a question, asked in order to make a statement, that does not expect an answer:
    At ano definition ng "mandatory" sa cambridge dictionary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    had there been no near-global mass vaccination,
    how many of these critics would be alive today...?

    back then,
    the human race knew next to nothing about covid.
    all they knew, was that people were dying by the wholesale...
    that a vaccine had to be developed fast...
    and when the vaccine became available, initially in trickles,
    people were fighting tooth and nail, to be among the first to be vaxxed.
    Wala eh, walang masabi tungkol dyan. Iba na lang pag-usapan. Yung mga ganyang critics kaya magpaliwanag sa mga namatay nung kasagsagan ng covid sa China, Spain, Italy etc. I bet like kags their balls and tails are tucked behind their arses if you challenege them to go there unvaccinated and help the dying. Poser if you ask me!

    Yung pwede madebate.
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    #39125
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    people were fighting tooth and nail, to be among the first to be vaxxed.
    Yung mga politicians and their families ang nauuna magpaturok...

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    EXCESS DEATHS: Why the SILENCE?!? - Fr. Mark Goring, CC


    MSMs are not reporting the excess deaths...

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    #39127


    Excess deaths, MPs request data

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    #39128
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post


    Excess deaths, MPs request data
    it's a monologue.
    someone is complaining, because they are not being given the data they are asking for.

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    #39129
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it's a monologue.
    someone is complaining, because they are not being given the data they are asking for.
    Huwag mo na patulan doc, he is way out there for redemption.
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    #39130
    Walang binabalita ang MSM natin!



    MASSIVE INVESTIGATION Into 327,000 Unexplained Deaths From 2021/2022




    Excess Deaths Investigation

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    Just a moment...

    28 February 2024 01:00:28 PM

    The joint House Committees on Public Order and Safety and on Human Rights, chaired by Reps. Dan Fernandez and Bienvenido Abante Jr., respectively, began on Tuesday its investigation into the reported 297,000 “excess deaths” based on data from the Philippine Statistics Authority (PSA).

    The inquiry was being undertaken pursuant to House Resolution (HR) 1481 filed by Fernandez, who said the figure cited puts into question the overall safety and efficacy of the response of our healthcare system at the time of the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Rep. Jonathan Keith Flores (2nd District, Bukidnon), who co-presided with Fernandez, said the inquiry seeks to delve deeper into two major issues.

    The first is whether or not the reported excess deaths in 2021, which allegedly reached a total of 297,000, cases may be largely attributed to the vaccination efforts of the government during that period, or such deaths violated the people’s right to life.

    Second is whether the newly crafted Pandemic Treaty and the International Health Regulations (IHR) have been entered into by the Philippine government in a judicious and lawful manner or not.

    “Almost four years after the nation survived the harrowing challenges brought about by the pandemic, the country remains hounded by some serious concerns that require an urgent and full inquiry in aid of legislation to ferret out the truth,” Flores said.

    Fernandez pointed out how in 2021, when vaccination commenced, there was a 43% surge in mortality rates compared to the 2% increases in death rate over the period 2016 to 2020.

    “It stands to reason that this very substantial increase in the number of deaths in 2021 could be attributed mainly to either two factors -- to COVID-19 infection or to the vaccines themselves,” Fernandez said in HR 1481.

    He cited that in 2020, the deaths were 40,147 lower than expected but it was 297,000 higher in 2021. The lawmaker said to determine and compare the number of deaths during the pandemic, and deaths under normal circumstances, the concept of excess mortality or “excess death” is used.

    Excess death, according to Fernandez, is computed by subtracting the expected deaths from the actual number of deaths during the five years previous to the pandemic -- that is, the average annual number of deaths from 2015 to 2019.

    Fernandez inquired with the resource persons from the Department of Health (DOH) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) whether they can attest on the safety and effectiveness of vaccines rolled out during the pandemic.

    FDA Director Joyce Cirunay replied that there was a process to prove the safety of the vaccines administered.

    Lawyer Tanya Lat, Lunas Pilipinas co-convenor, informed the joint committee how their group in December 2021 was able to gather 2,050 reports on coercion, discrimination, and bullying in relation to the mandatory COVID-19 vaccination, among others.

    “If the WHO Pandemic Treaty is passed, the WHO IHR amendments are passed, Senate Bill (SB) 1869 is passed implementing effectively the WHO Pandemic Treaty and IHR amendments, then we will have exactly the same problem,” Lat told the panel. SB 1869 is the proposed “Philippine Center for Disease Prevention and Control (CDC) Act.”

    Committee vice chairperson Romeo Acop requested that former DOH Secretary Francisco Duque III and the vaccination chief of the Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases (IATF) Secretary Carlito Galvez Jr. be invited in the next hearing of the joint committee.

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    #39132
    Interesting read: https://www.msn.com/en-ph/travel/tri...ei=16#image=35

    Dapat sa 2020 ay tawag dyan ay CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #39133
    the UN discourages naming diseases after so-called places of suspected origin, or where they were initially identified...

    i kinda... disagree.
    there's nothing, in my opinion, wrong with such system of nomenclature.
    it reminds us of the historical aspect.

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    #39134
    hindi pa tapos ang isyu ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ...


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    Sa mahilig mag Japan...

    Streptococcal toxic shock syndrome (STSS) predominantly caused by the bacteria that causes strep throat and impetigo—Group A Streptococcus.

    STSS is caused by the bacteria reaching deep into the body—including the blood and deep tissue—and triggering low blood pressure that can ultimately lead to organ failure. In Japan in 2023, 30.9 percent of cases among those aged under 50 resulted in death, though the New York Department of Health says that up to 60 percent of STSS cases can result in death.
    Mystery Rise in Infection With 3% Fatality Rate Sweeps Japan

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    it's nothing new. it's not mysterious. media hype lang.
    streptococcal toxic shock syndrome has been recognized since the 1970s.

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    #39137
    Kags. Let it go na. Gotta move na with your life.

    Ikaw yun hinde maka move on talaga like you're still living nun HS life mo then with this covid vaccine


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Kags. Let it go na. Gotta move na with your life.

    Ikaw yun hinde maka move on talaga like you're still living nun HS life mo then with this covid vaccine


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    Haha...na thanus-snapped naman mga posts ni kags. Must be a script embedded in tsikot that purges his posts after a few minutes.

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    #39139
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Haha...na thanus-snapped naman mga posts ni kags. Must be a script embedded in tsikot that purges his posts after a few minutes.

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    Auto-delete enabled for logtanga's posts?
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    #39140
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Haha...na thanus-snapped naman mga posts ni kags. Must be a script embedded in tsikot that purges his posts after a few minutes.

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    No such thing.

    Naalala ko tuloy when uls accused me of restricting his posts. Nobody is that special para gawan ng script ng admin

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