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    #39181
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "these people did not want answers or enlightenment. they were angry and wanted to blame someone!"


    Vaccine-Injured Man Confronts British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak



    Yup madami galit hehe...

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    #39182
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    "In addition to not recalling any evidence supporting social distancing, Fauci also told the committee's counsel that he didn't remember reading anything to support that masking kids would prevent COVID."

    Educated guess?
    i spent a good afternoon, viewing the video.
    the ff. are some of the points i found interesting.
    apologies for the long post.

    the bottom line of what dr. fauci was explaining,
    is that the human race, at that time, did not have an anti-covid manual to guide them by.
    they did not know yet of the covid virus.
    they had no drugs against covid back then.
    everything we now know about covid, including the drugs and vaccines, what worked, what seemed to work, what did not work but we used it anyway, everything had to be laboriously built from scratch.
    thus, they resorted to initially adopting practices that seemed to work in the past, against similar infectious respiratory diseases as covid. it may have been guesswork, but it was educated guesswork.
    hence the isolationing, the evasion of mass congregations, travel bans, the masking, the 6 foot perimeter, and the vaxxing.
    we did not know what would work and what would not work. we just had to try it and find out.

    about the vaxxing,
    he explained that the vaccine, initially thought to be good, proved to have a non-durable long-term advantage, i.e., its benefits waned over time. and this was something that no one could possibly have predicted. we simply had to use it, then wait and see how it turned out.
    but fauci strongly believes, that vaxxing effectively saved lives.

    so where did covid come from?
    he still believes it was a natural virus that jumped the species barrier.
    is it possible that it is a man-made virus? "i keep an open mind", is what he says.

    personally,
    vaxx side effects?
    a social scientist explained, that there are two ways the vaccine may be judged: immediately, as in now, and many years later.
    "the mortality and morbidity that the covid vaccine wrought, appears to be horrible now, because it struck too close to home."
    but decades from now, history will probably judge it in a more positive light, "like many successful vaccines, it saved many more lives than it killed".

    did he make money for his covid efforts?
    no, daw. only 100-200 dollars a year, from a patent he had devised many years ago, long before covid.

    viewing the video,
    fauci was interrupted one or two times, as he was attempting to answer the question asked of him.
    the other party simply, in my view, wasn't too interested in the explanation. they were angry, and they were looking for somebody to blame.
    one or two inquisitors, used their five minutes to narrate their negative opinions against him, and not ask any question.

    is there a conspiracy?
    he says no.
    he and the other personalities had worked together from way back, in so many projects and researches, it is possible that when they communicated with each other from time to time, in whatever form or manner, written, electronic or smoke signal (heh heh), it can not be helped that some folks will think they were conspiring.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 6th, 2024 at 10:30 PM.

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    #39183
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Last I checked the Bill of Rights is enshrined in the Constitution.
    Same with the inherent powers of the State.

    Plus do be reminded that the Bill of Rights are safeguards to the immense power of the state, meaning there is an acknowledgment that you are lucky the state made it possible to fight itself. Though the state is the people (but represented by those who won the elections).

    I certainly would heed the advice of medical experts and expert scientest/researchers than some internet armchair intellectual with a hatred for who knows what.
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    #39184
    Reuters... ginamit yung troll tactics ng mga DDS... the operation backfired because not only people were afraid of china vacs but also turned against western vacs... hehehe.

    The US military launched a clandestine program amid the COVID crisis to discredit China’s Sinovac inoculation – payback for Beijing’s efforts to blame Washington for the pandemic. One target: the Filipino public. Health experts say the gambit was indefensible and put innocent lives at risk.

    Reuters identified at least 300 accounts on X, formerly Twitter, that matched descriptions shared by former US military officials familiar with the Philippines operation. Almost all were created in the summer of 2020 and centered on the slogan #Chinaangvirus – Tagalog for China is the virus.

    The military program started under former President Donald Trump and continued months into Joe Biden’s presidency, Reuters found – even after alarmed social media executives warned the new administration that the Pentagon had been trafficking in COVID misinformation. The Biden White House issued an edict in spring 2021 banning the anti-vax effort, which also disparaged vaccines produced by other rivals, and the Pentagon initiated an internal review, Reuters found.
    Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 15th, 2024 at 12:21 PM.

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    Pentagon Stands by Secret Anti-Vaccination Disinformation Campaign in Philippines After Reuters Report | Military.com

    The US basically admitted to doing it. Filipinos were distrustful of vaccines because of Dengvaxia bruhaha to begin with.

    For sure congress will conduct a hearing.

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    #39186
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Reuters... ginamit yung troll tactics ng mga DDS... the operation backfired because not only people were afraid of china vacs but also turned against western vacs... hehehe.



    Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic
    so i wonder,
    was the chinese sinovac a good vaccine, or was it a victim of anti-sino propaganda?

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    #39187
    ang pananaliksi sa CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ...


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    #39188
    ang susunod na kabanata tungkol sa CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ...


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    #39189
    ang pagbabalik ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS sa bansang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ...


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    #39190
    covid 19 outbreak in a wnba team may force game forfeiture

    WNBA in Covid nightmare as Chicago Sky are forced to CANCEL practice with 'multiple players' ill - sparking fears other teams could be infected | Daily Mail Online

    just the other day several democratic convention attendees got infected w/ the covid 19 virus. it looks like america may be experiencing a resurgence of the super bug.
    Last edited by baludoy; August 28th, 2024 at 10:55 AM.

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    #39191
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    covid 19 outbreak in a wnba team may force game forfeiture

    WNBA in Covid nightmare as Chicago Sky are forced to CANCEL practice with 'multiple players' ill - sparking fears other teams could be infected | Daily Mail Online

    just the other day several democratic convention attendees got infected w/ the covid 19 virus. it looks like america may be experiencing a resurgence of the super bug.
    i do not think it is as super as originally expeienced.
    i think it is evolving into an ordinary "flue".

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    #39192
    ito na naman ang bansang CHINA VIRUS ... https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other...8fc07882&ei=17

    virus.jpg

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    #39193
    new variant XEC ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ... https://www.msn.com/en-ph/health/oth...9399df9a&ei=19

    xec.jpg

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    #39194
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    new variant XEC ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ... https://www.msn.com/en-ph/health/oth...9399df9a&ei=19

    xec.jpg
    if this xec variant is just like the other variants of the past,
    why headline it...?

    so what if it becomes the dominant strain, if it behaves like the other mundane strains of the past?

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    #39195
    sa wuhan, tsayna pa rin galing itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ... https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other...87a62090&ei=16

    wuhan.jpg

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    #39196
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    sa wuhan, tsayna pa rin galing itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ... https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other...87a62090&ei=16

    wuhan.jpg
    Sayang wala na dito yung "expert" at "super intelligent" forumer. Sometimes you need a really good laugh and "I told you so!" moment eh.

    Kaabang-abang din sana yung sidekick niya na magsegunda manu ng conspiracy theory.
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    #39197
    Interesting that footnote 2 states:

    "The study is based on an analysis of data provided by the Chinese Center for Disease Control (CCDC). This information, accessible on open and public databases, includes the raw sequencing data of more than 800 samples collected from Huanan Market (from cages and carts, the floors and walls of stalls, as well as in drains and sewage, etc.)."

    COVID-19: animal species identified as potential sources of the pandemic | CNRS

    Dr. d, do you think this has been peer reviewed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Interesting that footnote 2 states:

    "The study is based on an analysis of data provided by the Chinese Center for Disease Control (CCDC). This information, accessible on open and public databases, includes the raw sequencing data of more than 800 samples collected from Huanan Market (from cages and carts, the floors and walls of stalls, as well as in drains and sewage, etc.)."

    COVID-19: animal species identified as potential sources of the pandemic | CNRS

    Dr. d, do you think this has been peer reviewed?
    cnrs appears to be reputable.
    but as in all research, the conclusions are only as credible as the quality of the information they were based on.

    granting that the information are real,
    my personal query still begs, "were it a completely natural, spontaneous 'evolution', or did human hands nudge it along?"
    Last edited by dr. d; September 23rd, 2024 at 09:49 AM.

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    #39199
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    cnrs appears to be reputable.
    but as in all research, the conclusions are only as credible as the quality of the information they were based on.
    Exactly what I had in mind.

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    #39200
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Exactly what I had in mind.
    i am mildly surprised, you picked up that footnote.

China Corona Virus Outbreak