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    balik sa "no mask, no entry" ang Angeles City .... Angeles City reverts to 'no face mask, no entry' rule in gov’t offices due to COVID-19 threat | Inquirer News

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    balik sa "no mask, no entry" ang Angeles City .... Angeles City reverts to 'no face mask, no entry' rule in gov’t offices due to COVID-19 threat | Inquirer News

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    balik sa "no mask, no entry" ang Angeles City .... Angeles City reverts to 'no face mask, no entry' rule in gov’t offices due to COVID-19 threat | Inquirer News

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    Oh! My friend just mentioned last night he was in Angeles and people are wearing masks. Kaya pala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Oh! My friend just mentioned last night he was in Angeles and people are wearing masks. Kaya pala.

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    Boss got quarantined for COVID just now. Office is mulling about mandatory masks.

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    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids

    REVEALED: Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids | Daily Mail Online

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    it's difficult to come up with guidelines against a disease that we knew next to nothing about.
    personally, i wouldn't call his pronouncements as totally without basis.
    but only history can judge, whether our efforts, founded or not, were useful or not.
    if we were to argue at the outset, over what should be done back then, argueing for a quorum and significant majority decision, baka hanggang ngayon ay nag-a-away pa tayo.
    the bottom line is, "someone has to make those hard decisions".

    tongue in cheek,
    "an expert is someone who knows just a little bit more, than us."

    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 3rd, 2024 at 11:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it's difficult to come up with guidelines against a disease that we knew next to nothing about.
    personally, i wouldn't call his pronouncements as totally without basis.
    but only history can judge, whether our efforts, founded or not, were useful or not.
    if we were to argue at the outset, over what should be done back then, argueing for a quorum and significant majority decision, baka hanggang ngayon ay nag-a-away pa tayo.
    the bottom line is, "someone has to make those hard decisions".

    tongue in cheek,
    "an expert is someone who knows just a little bit more, than us."

    heh heh.
    The problem is some of these guidelines were made mandatory. Based on the transcript, some of the guidelines came about without sufficient basis (and based on some studies could even be detrimental).

    Being unable to recall the basis for adopting these guidelines is a red flag in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    The problem is some of these guidelines were made mandatory. Based on the transcript, some of the guidelines came about without sufficient basis (and based on some studies could even be detrimental).

    Being unable to recall the basis for adopting these guidelines is a red flag in itself.
    knowing they were uncomfortable at best, how many of us would have followed these guidelines if they were optional?

    it's an infectious disease. but early on, we knew next to nothing about its behavior.
    i would certainly have started with generic guidelines that were logical enough because they worked in controlling the spread of similar infectious diseases in the past.
    social distancing... masking... isolation... vaccines... these seemed logical enough at that time... even today.
    they may since have been modified, as we learned new information.

    with long emergency room queues, and folks literally dropping dead in the streets or while in line for treatment... we all wanted our vaxx asap.
    let us remember that at that time, researchers could not yet generate the numbers, to compute for vaccine statistics and long-term effects. basically, they were making educated guesses.

    would i blame them? ...dunno. it is possible that i am alive today, because of a direct or indirect effect of any one of the aforementioned guidelines and vaxxings.

    this is humanity's first modern, potentially fatal, pandemic.
    we have lots to learn from the experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post

    this is humanity's first modern, potentially fatal, pandemic.
    we have lots to learn from the experience.
    Hope people will learn that one does not trifle with another's health and liberties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Hope people will learn that one does not trifle with another's health and liberties.
    "it seemed like a good decision at the time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "it seemed like a good decision at the time."
    "In addition to not recalling any evidence supporting social distancing, Fauci also told the committee's counsel that he didn't remember reading anything to support that masking kids would prevent COVID."

    Educated guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Hope people will learn that one does not trifle with another's health and liberties.
    mercy, but "trifle" may probably be not the accurate word to use.
    "make heavy decisions" is probably more apt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    "In addition to not recalling any evidence supporting social distancing, Fauci also told the committee's counsel that he didn't remember reading anything to support that masking kids would prevent COVID."

    Educated guess?
    in my opinion,

    definitely an educated guess! and with basis, even!

    masking is an accepted method of preventing the spread and acquisition of respiratory infectious disease, IF we wore it religiously correctly.
    social distancing is an obvious precaution, to prevent the spread of respiratory infectious disease.
    personally, 6 feet in covid is too generous and wishful thinking; alas, it might be an unfortunate compromise to human nature and commerce.
    so where did they get the 6 feet? apparently, googling, 6 feet is mentioned several times in respiratory infectious disease literature, as an acceptable distance vis a vis aerosol respiratory droplet travel...
    but hey! i enjoyed the social distancing immensely! i wish sometimes that it would remain the norm for a long time.

    in those early days of covid, who would have guessed that children and adults would behave differently, in the face of covid?

    in those early days, mankind did not have the covid manual to consult. mankind had to compose it from scratch, by ekeing out every little drop of covid's secrets, with great difficulty and suffering, from a very kuripot na kalikasan. and they would regularly update it, as soon as new information are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Hope people will learn that one does not trifle with another's health and liberties.
    Hindsight is easy, but not during the moment when everyone is basically clueless.

    dr. d is right, it was an educated and calculated guess but still educated and calculated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Hindsight is easy, but not during the moment when everyone is basically clueless.

    dr. d is right, it was an educated and calculated guess but still educated and calculated.

    Sa tigas ng ulo ng Pinoy tingin mo ba susunod ng maayos yan kung hindi naghigpit? Tayo pa na mahilig sa palusot.com
    Last I checked the Bill of Rights is enshrined in the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post

    Sa tigas ng ulo ng Pinoy tingin mo ba susunod ng maayos yan kung hindi naghigpit? Tayo pa na mahilig sa palusot.com
    ... kxxx... actually took pride in, and advertised proudy, his non-masking escapades...
    every society, bar none, has them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Hindsight is easy, but not during the moment when everyone is basically clueless.

    dr. d is right, it was an educated and calculated guess but still educated and calculated.

    Sa tigas ng ulo ng Pinoy tingin mo ba susunod ng maayos yan kung hindi naghigpit? Tayo pa na mahilig sa palusot.com
    I also agree. During those dark and uncertain times, and even now, I would still give more credibility to the advice of Dr. Fauci, Doc d, and all of the truly QUALIFIED medical experts and M.D.s, rather than the hordes of so called "experts" on the internet who act as if they know everything but have actually accomplished NOTHING.

    Madali lang naman magpuna, kala mo ang gagaling. Ang problema eh mas wala namang alam yang mga namimintas na mga yan. Umaastang marunong lang.

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    Kung ganun lang sana kadali ang lahat, I abolish na ang Bar saka mga board exam.

    The only qualification to practice a profession would be the ability to read and write + an internet connection... aysuus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Kung ganun lang sana kadali ang lahat, I abolish na ang Bar saka mga board exam.

    The only qualification to practice a profession would be the ability to read and write + an internet connection... aysuus
    technology has made worldwide publication of one's thoughts, very easily possible.

    when we source online literature, it is sometimes difficult to determine scientific truth from bellicose balderdash.

    we have a lecture topic in med school, wherein are discussed, tips of how to spot good scientific literature from un-good literature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post


    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids

    REVEALED: Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids | Daily Mail Online
    i spent a good part of the afternoon, viewing the video.

    and i came to the conclusion,
    "these people did not want answers or enlightenment. they were angry and wanted to blame someone!"

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